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Old 08-10-2008, 6:47 PM
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Question tactical stock for Winchester model 70?

Hi guys need a little advice. I have a Winchester model 70 rifle in .270 weatherby. I am looking for a few upgrades such as a stock and ported barrel. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-10-2008, 8:20 PM
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McMillian A-5 stock :-)

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Old 08-10-2008, 10:32 PM
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If you are in southern california, I can put a muzzle brake on it for you.
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Try a Mcmillan stock, they are pretty sweet. The FN SPR line is literally a Winnie model 70 in a Mcmillan stock. If you're curious as to what your rifle will look like with those stocks just check out the SPR line. Can;t go wrong with that upgrade!
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Old 08-10-2008, 11:18 PM
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What model make is your rifle? Does it have a medium-heavy or sporter barrel? I've actually heard that sporter barrels might like some pressure on the front of the barrel by the stock fore end, and if the rifle shoots well right now and the mcmillan free floats it the rifle could shoot worse.
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Old 08-10-2008, 11:30 PM
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btw, I've also been looking for a stock for my Winchester 70 Black Shadow in .270. This one caught my eye:

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=190971

This one also:

http://www.manventureoutpost.com/out...ducts_id=10656

Cheaper than McMillans, and probably just as good.
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Cheaper than McMillans, and probably just as good.
NO.
Keep telling yourself that though if you want one of those "other" stocks.
You won't know the difference if you don't have a McMillan to compare it to.
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What exactly about McMillans makes them worth the extra money? Do they just fit better out of the box and require no modification, because that is my major concern with getting a new stock and so I would gladly pay extra if that is guaranteed.
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What exactly about McMillans makes them worth the extra money? Do they just fit better out of the box and require no modification, because that is my major concern with getting a new stock and so I would gladly pay extra if that is guaranteed.
The way the fiberglass and epoxy is laid up.
They are NOT just injection molded like those two above.
They are fiberglass and epoxy hand laid into molds, joined together and filled with a filler.
Then the inletting is CNC machined out.
They should still be properly bedded though for best performance.
Of course that applies to any stock unless it has a full length metal bedding block like an HS Precision or AI stock.

If final fitting is your biggest concern, look at HS stocks with full length metal bedding blocks.
AI does not make stocks for Winchesters.
Otherwise, for best performance, plan on having the action bedded into a conventional McMillan, Manners or Bell & Carlson stock.
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The way the fiberglass and epoxy is laid up.
They are NOT just injection molded like those two above.
They are fiberglass and epoxy hand laid into molds, joined together and filled with a filler.
Then the inletting is CNC machined out.
They should still be properly bedded though for best performance.
Of course that applies to any stock unless it has a full length metal bedding block like an HS Precision or AI stock.
Thanks ar15barrels,

I was wondering what the full-length aluminum bedding does, and whether McMillan uses them on their stocks? I've heard of full length and pillar bedding.
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Thanks ar15barrels,

I was wondering what the full-length aluminum bedding does, and whether McMillan uses them on their stocks? I've heard of full length and pillar bedding.
McMillan, Manners or Bell & Carlson are all fiberglass, kevlar or carbon fiber mesh shells with filler material inside.
All of these will need to have pillars added during installation.
The pillars are basically just metal tubes for the action screws.
They get epoxied into the stock while the action is in place.
They assure that you won't crush the stock's filler when tightening the action screws that hold the stock to the action.

The inside of the pillars are usually quite oversized of the action screws.
You will want to bed your particular action into the stock for best accuracy/repeatability.

A full length bedding block is an aluminum chassis that's molded into the filler material.
This usually includes pillars for the action screws.
It gives a solid piece of metal for the recoil lug to bear against.
You find these in most HS Precision and some high end Bell & Carlson stocks.
Some people also believe that you need to bed the action to these as well.
We call it "skim bedding" because you put a very thin layer on the bedding block, mostly concentrating on capturing the recoil lug.
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