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Old 08-09-2008, 7:00 PM
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Hi guys, im purchasing a HK 911 (off list) from out of state seller. I've asked seller to install a radd lock mag device and ship the rifle to my FFL here in So Cal. The problem is that the seller doesnt know how to do this. Is there any other way to ship the rifle here? Maybe reveiver completely stripped? Any help is very much appreciated
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Just have him send the barreled upper to your FFL and the lower, stock, bcg, etc to you.

Oh, and congrats on your purchase!
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Remove the lower grip from the serialized and barreled upper, and remove any flash suppressor, and you're golden.
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Remove the lower grip from the serialized and barreled upper, and remove any flash suppressor, and you're golden.
The flash suppressor isn't really an issue, but it's good SOP.
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The flash suppressor isn't really an issue, but it's good SOP.
That is very true. Suggestion was to CYA, and that of the dealer, whom you want to maintain a friendly relationship since he's the one getting you all of the cool toys.
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If it as an original HK911 that has not been modified, then all you have to do is have the owner remove the two buttstock push out pins and slide the stock off. he should also remove the trigger contol group by slimply pulling the grip fram off of the upper once the stock is removed. Now all he has is the barrelled serialized upper. The stock and trigger frame can be mailed to you directly, since they are not controlled parts. The barreled upper is the serialized and controlled part.

Now the reason why I asked if it was original and unmodified is because these rifles had the flash suppressor removed and an aluminum sleave was pin welded over the entire front section of the barrel from the front sight base. This made the front of the barrel look like a bull barrel and you cannot attach a flash hider. There were alot of folks that ground off the welded retaining pin and unscrewed the aluminum sleave and then reinstatlled a flash suppresor. If the sleeve is still on then there are no worries, the barreled upper is good to go for any california dealer that accepts OLL rifles. If the original owner installed the flash hider then the barreled upper with the flash hider is considered an assault weapon and you and the dealer are risking violating the law. Have the person selling it to you, send you a picture of the front of the barrel and you will immediately be able to tell if the sleave is still in place. If the flash hider is there instead of the sleave then all you have to do is have the flash hider removed as well and have the owner ship it to you with the buttstock and trigger frame components.

I have an HK 911 and still have the sleave and simply filled in the thumbhole stock to make it california legal with an open magwell. I love my rifle and you will enjoy yours, once you get it legal. Hope this helps

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If it as an original HK911 that has not been modified, then all you have to do is have the owner remove the two buttstock push out pins and slide the stock off. he should also remove the trigger contol group by slimply pulling the grip fram off of the upper once the stock is removed. Now all he has is the barrelled serialized upper. The stock and trigger frame can be mailed to you directly, since they are not controlled parts. The barreled upper is the serialized and controlled part.

Now the reason why I asked if it was original and unmodified is because these rifles had the flash suppressor removed and an aluminum sleave was pin welded over the entire front section of the barrel from the front sight base. This made the front of the barrel look like a bull barrel and you cannot attach a flash hider. There were alot of folks that ground off the welded retaining pin and unscrewed the aluminum sleave and then reinstatlled a flash suppresor. If the sleeve is still on then there are no worries, the barreled upper is good to go for any california dealer that accepts OLL rifles. If the original owner installed the flash hider then the barreled upper with the flash hider is considered an assault weapon and you and the dealer are risking violating the law. Have the person selling it to you, send you a picture of the front of the barrel and you will immediately be able to tell if the sleave is still in place. If the flash hider is there instead of the sleave then all you have to do is have the flash hider removed as well and have the owner ship it to you with the buttstock and trigger frame components.

I have an HK 911 and still have the sleave and simply filled in the thumbhole stock to make it california legal with an open magwell. I love my rifle and you will enjoy yours, once you get it legal. Hope this helps

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That is absolutely untrue. Show me where in the PC a FH is an assault weapon. If this were true every AR upper entering CA would be an assault weapon.

Without the lower in place it's not a complete firearm - thus it can't be considered a semi-automatic with detachable mags.
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Hello UCLA plinker

The HK series of rifles are built differently than an AR. On AR's the serial number or registered part is the lower reciever. On an AR the upper receiver and all their components are just parts. so your statement would be true for AR style rifles. Unfortunately, you misunderstand how HK rifles are built. On an HK 911, the lower receiver or trigger pack is only a part. it is not the serialized part of the rifle. On an HK 911 the upper reciever is the serialized part. The barrell is attached to the upper receiver. If the upper receiver is serialized and you have an banned feature, such as a flash hider, then you are creating an assault weapon. Upper receiver on HK is the "controlled" part. Therefore my original statement is true. If he is bringing in an HK911, then he can have the uncontrolled lower receiver and buttstock shipped to him directly and the upper receiver/barrel assembly must go to his FFL with no flash suppressor. Hope this clears it up for you UCLA.

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