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Old 05-22-2008, 7:21 PM
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Default Rangefinder recommendation?

Looking at rangefinders....but I'm on a budget. Any suggestions are appreciated.

I've been looking at the ATN Ranger Eye 1500 .....anybody have any thoughts on this one?

http://www.opticsplanet.net/atn-corp-aries-z8-nvr.html

Also, I thought this was interesting....

http://www.atncorp.com/NightVisionEx...RangerEyes1500
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Friends dont let friends buy ATN.......

Stick with the Leica 1200s or go big with the Geovids.
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What range are you looking at? For anything to 600 yards on a clear day a simple leupold will be just fine. If you want to range out to 1000 or beyond then youll need to spend the big bucks.
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Old 05-22-2008, 7:39 PM
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Friends dont let friends buy ATN.......

Stick with the Leica 1200s or go big with the Geovids.

LOL...thats what I was afraid of. I've never had anything ATN.....

I've been checking out the Leica's....twice the money....but maybe I could find a used one.
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Find a used one...800 or 900yard ones can be hand for 300 to 350 if that.

If you are going to use them for hunting (except extreme long range hunting) those should serve you fine. + The optics are a lot nicer than ATN...

ATN is crap to be blunt.
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What range are you looking at? For anything to 600 yards on a clear day a simple leupold will be just fine. If you want to range out to 1000 or beyond then youll need to spend the big bucks.
Honestly.....I probably don't "need" the 1000 yard version....but a friend has almost finished building his own 1000 yard range.....so I could actually use the 1000 yard capability pretty often.

Another thought....I kinda would like to have a bino version...so I could use the same unit to glass with...and not have to carry both. Would be nice to use to hunt with too.
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Old 05-22-2008, 7:48 PM
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Find a used one...800 or 900yard ones can be hand for 300 to 350 if that.

If you are going to use them for hunting (except extreme long range hunting) those should serve you fine. + The optics are a lot nicer than ATN...

ATN is crap to be blunt.
Thanks for the info.....I'm only shooting 308 here....so 800-900 yards should actually be plenty.

And yeah....I would want to hunt with them too.
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If you check ebay (yeah I know) you can usually find a couple of deals on Leica 1200s - picked mine up (practically new) for around 350.00 - best $$ I ever spent.
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I'm looking at the Bushnell 1500 with drop and angle compensator.
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I'm looking at the Bushnell 1500 with drop and angle compensator.
word on the street is that like Leupy they're slow - haven't used one though.
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Suck it up and get a Leica LRF. You won't be sorry.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:34 PM
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I think I will....the LRF are not that expensive after all. I had only seen the CRF previously...which are like $650.

I can handle the $350-400 range...
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If you check ebay (yeah I know) you can usually find a couple of deals on Leica 1200s
picked mine up (practically new) for around 350.00 - best $$ I ever spent.
Mine spoiled you huh?

I remember that day out in the desert...
A bunch of us were standing around lazing targets.
I could take 2-3 measurements before Timberwolf's rangefinder would finish one measurement.
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I agree about the Leica. I have used Nikon, Bushnell, Burris, Leupold, and Leica laser rangefinders.

Burris makes a good rangefinder. However, Leica is the best.
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Old 05-23-2008, 7:17 AM
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Here's my opinion.

Leica LRF is the way to go if it's for range use only where you won't encounter wet environments.

Leica CRF is you got the extra money and need something that can handle water a little better.

If you want something decent that can float in water and be submerged if need be it, get the Bushnell Elite 1500. You can hit 1600 yds if you're ranging a car or something

Leica gets faster and more reliable readings under non-perfect conditions, but I went with the Bushnell because I needed something that can handle water for those hunting trips.

Leupold has too much crap on the screen.
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Mine spoiled you huh?

I remember that day out in the desert...
A bunch of us were standing around lazing targets.
I could take 2-3 measurements before Timberwolf's rangefinder would finish one measurement.
Yes I blame you and Ryan both for showing me the light - but in retro spect that old Bushnell served me well for several years.
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Yes I blame you and Ryan both for showing me the light - but in retro spect that old Bushnell served me well for several years.
Sorry about that. But I still blame you for making me get a custom rifle. After shooting a couple .5moa groups so effortlessly behind your rifle, I could never go back.
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i have a Leica 1200. works like a charm.
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Sorry about that. But I still blame you for making me get a custom rifle. After shooting a couple .5moa groups so effortlessly behind your rifle, I could never go back.
I need to get a custom rifle.
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Old 05-23-2008, 9:00 AM
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I need to stay from y'all.. but it's too late.. the custom rifles and high end optics are inbound (soon at least).
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Sorry about that. But I still blame you for making me get a custom rifle. After shooting a couple .5moa groups so effortlessly behind your rifle, I could never go back.
Savannah seems to have influenced a few . . . as I look around at our monthly match and observe the various R&D built AICS stocked rifles with Rock barrels . . .
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I got a Bartlein, but, close enough. Also wanted her a bit lighter than savannah...that fat pig...with that amu barrel...that dirty pig...
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Old 05-23-2008, 9:18 AM
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I got a Bartlein, but, close enough. Also wanted her a bit lighter than savannah...that fat pig...with that amu barrel...that dirty pig...
Do you really want to shoot first for every APS match you attend?
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I know. But I say that in the most endearing way. When prone, there are times I wish I had a heavier contour. I forget about it though when I go offhand or kneeling. Its all about preference. I went lighter than most on my barrel. It heats up more quickly, but thats the price I pay.
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I went a little lighter for her next rebuild with an M24 contour barrel - but to be honest shooting her in position is not bad once you get used to it, though it has ruined me as far as shooting a lighter rifle especially in standing - I can't lock a sporter in to save my life now.

By the way I won't tell Savannah that y'all called her a dirty pig, shes rather sensitive especially after Steve calling her Marmalade last year.
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By the way I won't tell Savannah that y'all called her a dirty pig, shes rather sensitive especially after Steve calling her Marmalade last year.
Thanks. After all, she was the girl that brought me into the "custom" world.
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I went a little lighter for her next rebuild with an M24 contour barrel
My USMC armorer friend just gave me an old M40 barrel that he says had around 800 rounds through it.
This is from back when they were still shooting model 70's.

What's the most likely manufacturer of this barrel?

I think I'm going to take apart Puff's 243 and set this barrel into that action and drop it into the Milspec 5r HS stock I just got in-trade.
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Is it an M70 barrel or a M40 barrel - if its an M70 barrel I'm not sure if its an M40 barrel its probably Schilen.

If that a true M70 barrel we need to talk
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Is it an M70 barrel or a M40 barrel - if its an M70 barrel I'm not sure if its an M40 barrel its probably Schilen.

If that a true M70 barrel we need to talk
This is a flat breech Winchester model 70 barrel from a USMC sniper rifle.
I don't know more than that right now.
It's an M40 profile.
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This is a flat breech Winchester model 70 barrel from a USMC sniper rifle.
I don't know more than that right now.
It's an M40 profile.
The Winchester M70 barrels' contour is very close to the M40 contour - hmm - what's it chambered for 30-06 or 308?
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The Winchester M70 barrels' contour is very close to the M40 contour - hmm - what's it chambered for 30-06 or 308?
I'll check tonight.
It's just sitting in the corner of my reloading room waiting to become something.
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I'll check tonight.
It's just sitting in the corner of my reloading room waiting to become something.
If its 30-06 it could become something especially if it has the holes drilled and tapped for Unertl / Lyman target blocks . . .
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If its 30-06 it could become something especially if it has the holes drilled and tapped for Unertl / Lyman target blocks . . .
It does not have holes for target blocks.
Those would have to be drilled after it was installed on a receiver.
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It's a 308 barrel.
24" long.
Straight taper.
1.130" at the breech end.
0.900" at the muzzle.
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Arrrgggghhhhh - not off an old USMC M70 - they were 30-06, 24" long and .730 at the muzzle . . . oh well
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You getting the Rock barrel for that M70 still?
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You getting the Rock barrel for that M70 still?
The Rock is for Savannah - if all else fails Mike Lau has the right contour in stock - he'll be doing the build - just thought it'd be nice to have an original
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I would too.... You gona brake it? I would almost bet that 190s and RL22 will shoot good. No matter what Load I shoot threw it, that shot the best and fastest. I tried some RL22 and 175gr SMKS. SHot A FULL CASE ofit last time out, 63 and 64grs. No pressure, punches holes threw steel targets thow
Didnt shoot too good, Stayed at 1moa.
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No brake as its staying traditional and no 190s - only 168s and 175s - probably 175s if I can remember the old HP load.
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