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CGSSA Range Cleanups Schedule dates and time to clean up outdoor ranges. If we don't who will? |
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Ok so I talked to Larry with the Forestry Service a little earlier today.
With regards with the sign he is going to contact the fire station about putting it up out in front. He says it will just need to have large lettering pretty much stating that there is a range cleanup on this date and time. Sponsors should be good to include as well. The tractor will need some extra oks. He is good with it but will need to ask the actual ranger for permission. He is also going to contact the fire station about us having the semi truck drop the tractor there and we would then just drive it back to the range. He also has to contact some archeologists about the possibility of "digging" up artifacts. He knows we will just be getting the trash and doing a light grading but they need to be contacted first. More to come... |
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If the news is contacted, I would be good too, to let them know that the target shooters are the ones that are doing the clean up. The last news article on the GF clean up I read, while all positive, kinda made it sound like just your everyday resident was complaining about the trash and were going to clean up. If it's pushed to know that the shooters are the ones who care, that would be a positive thing for them to note. |
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this is exactly the sort of misrepresentation I was warning about. Any outreach to media should be a rehearsed and orchestrated connection.
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Ok we are good to go on all fronts.
Front loader has been approved by the Ranger. I will get a hold of the rental agency and set this up as long as we can get support from Marborg. Sign is good to go for in front of the fire station. There is 2 poles that they use for other signs out there that we can use to hold it. The poles are 4ft across so the should be at least that wide. We will need to drill some holes in the sign at the site and bolt it on. Generally a 2 pewrson job according to Larry. He also said it would be a good idea to put an alternate date on the sign if it happens to rain that weekend. Something to ponder... The way it looks right now we might need a few more people. Does someone want to go through the old threads and PM all the others that have helped out in the past? I will be out of town all weekend starting now. |
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Awesome and thank you for dimensions. I will have materials options posted up sometime after lunch time tomorrow (heading to OSH tomorrow morning )
alternate dates wise... im good as long as its not valentine's day week (work function all week and both adjoining weekends - before / after ) and im not available in May for another work function
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What are the plans for the materials? Aluminum would probably be the best bet. A little more expensive but it will weather great and look professional. Have you looked into a local sign company?
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I think ideally we'll want to get one of the alloy / alumn materials they use for like parking / handicap/ etc.. signs. Painting - I've got that undercontrol. I have an airbrush and used to be quite the avid hobbyist ( aka i used to crash expensive motorcycles a lot so i became really proficient in painting and plastic repair ) so I don't think we need to engage a sign company unless we are after them as a sponsor (might not be a bad idea tho.... )
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i got shanghai'd on sat and sun by work. I did get some pricing and such and it looks like we should be able to pull it off for cheaper than 100$.
I will draw up a schematic and describe what / how I anticipate the sign will be constructed sometime this week - I just want to be thorough since this will be a community sign and I haven't had the chance to do a write up for us. in a nut shell tho : Sign size : 24"x40" Hardware : both a stand and hooks to hang ( so we can hang if theres something we can cover, otherwise a kickstand will be built in ) paint / prep materials, etc.. shouldn't run over 100$ or if it does only slightly.
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How's the sign coming Deadbolt?
We look to be a go on all aspects except for the trash removal. Seems like Craig is doing a lot of traveling this month so hopefully we will be hearing from him soon. I have not made final arrangements for the front loader as we need a confimation from Marborg first. Hopefully everything falls together. I can supply the hotdogs and waters again. Let's pull this together... Mike |
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Tonight I'll PM folks who've expressed any interest to verify participation and list at the head of this thread when I get confirmation. And I'm good for sign contribution and bagles, cream cheese & OJ for the morning of. |
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On a side note we went out there yesterday and it looks pretty bad. we really need to get this done. I also pulled into the fire station there and verified that there is a large enough area for the semi to drop off the tractor for us. |
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I just spoke with David Borgatello, Marborg is going to have a roll-off and a toilet up there by 8 Am on the 25th, Yay Marborg! He did ask that there be some mention of Marborg's contribution. I mentioned the sign and handbills at the gun shops (are thoses going to happen BTW), I also said I'd take out an ad in the News-Press thanking Marborg for their generosity and continued support on behalf of the Calguns and the shooting community in general after the clean-up is complete, if folks want to chip in a little towards that just give whatever you can at the clean-up. |
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We were there this last Saturday and outside of the ton of shotgun shells there wasn't as much trash as I've seen. I did notice 2 of the tables missing which I'm sure someone took it upon themselves to use as a target.
This is happening the weekend of the 24th correct? |
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I'm not any good at that type of stuff but I'll help anyway I can. If you could get the sketch done I could run it by the sign shop and see what they say. We should get this done asap though so everyone has sufficient notice of the closure and we get the word out in our local gun shops. I will call Larry again to let him know that we are a go but are still pending with regards to the tractor. |
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I'll ask, I did mention the tractor to him and he was very emphatic about no dirt in the roll-off, I don't know if that's gonna be a problem or not.
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@turbo
Essentially it would be an alum / alloy (same material as "no parking" signs) There would be simple text - can be vinyl lettering reading whatever we wish something like : EAST CAMINO CIELO SHOOTING RANGE CLEAN UP SCHEDULED BY CALGUNS Then under that, we have 2 sections with 2x "holes punched" in the metal. The idea being we can have reuseable sheet metal "dates" like "mar, jan, jun, oct" etc.. plates for months, then a series of numbers Those numbers would have the same 2 holes punched. We can then Zip-tie them to the sign to change dates and reuse the sign without wasting materials to designate the date. Also @ the top of the sign i was thinking 2 "U" hooks - so we could just "hang it" on an existing forest service sign (like one of the many SMOKEY IS GOING TO HATE YOU IF YOU START A FOREST FIRE" signs - assuming the rangers are ok with this for the duration of the sign's posting) and last but not least - literally mount a bicycle kickstand or something similar to the back of the sign if we need to play it in a position / hanging isnt available sorry for short typing - works killing me, gunna be a 13hr day -b
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I agree with the others we need to get the flyers out and sign up ASAP. Do we have the flyers that were put up last time that we can modify? PM incoming |
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I'm OK with taking care if the sign and/or fliers unless someone else is dying to do this. Something like this?
18" x 24", 0.04" Aluminum. Maybe get 3, one for the range, one for Gibraltar Rd. & one for across from the fire station? Last edited by patobravo; 02-06-2012 at 6:01 PM.. |
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Would any of you be willing to provide me the directions / coordinates to this place?
I know I'm a new member here...and I'm a new firearms owner, but I am willing to help out the community. Being new to all this, I would hate to see it disappear because of patrons that do not clean after themselves |
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I believe the directions were posted earlier but basically you take highway 154, at the top if the pass you turn on east camino cielo, follow it about 8 miles, it takes quite awhile, and you can't really miss it. If you think you're lost or had to have passed it just keep going.
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in google maps it's Arroyo Burro Rd/Forest Route 5N20 Turn onto East Camino Cielo at the top of Hwy 154 (San Marcos Pass), drive 6.2 miles and you're there. |
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The only other thing that should be done on it is to make the date changeable so we can re-use the sign for next time. I say go ahead and take charge of that. I will print out some copies and put them at my local gun shop as well. I might also add the local tractor rental place on the fliers as well if they do help us out with this. That probably doesn't need to go on the sign though since it will be a one time thing. |
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Also we should make sure it is OK with Kes if we use his logo since technically he is not sponsoring this event.
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Has a list of tools and other handy items, for the attendees, been assembled?
Drinking water, food/snacks, work gloves, work shoes, hats, dust masks, eye protection, rakes, shovels, wheelbarrels, etc? I will be there to help out.
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Wheelbarrows have made all the difference in the world so if you have one bring it. I think we brought 3 of them out with us last time. |
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Just got off the phone with Craig. He is giving Dave over at Marborg a call and said it shouldn't be a problem to get multiple rolloffs for us.
I will go by the equipment rental place and schedule the front loader with them today. Looks like all is a go |
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BTW, when I initially called him Dave got to talking about how he recently took his father for a ride on West Camino Cielo for the first time from Refugio Rd. and mentioned up how the other two designated shooting spots on West Camino (not Winchester Gun Club obviously) pretty littered and thought a pick-up could run out there and pick that stuff up as long as we had the roll-off at the other site. And- Kes has not responded to PM or e-mail so I'll have the sign made as is, if anyone complains about the logo it can get covered with some vinyl. |
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Larry would like an email of the sign/flyer as well so he can put them out around town. I'll send it to him if that is the final draft. I called about the tractor but will need to call back tomorrow when the guy is in the office. Hopefully I will have the final price for that. |
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