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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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GUIDELINES TO WHAT TOPICS DO *NOT* GO INTO THE 2A FORUM
1) This is a California forum.
2) Things that don't exist yet leave us nothing to talk about. No one can predict the future.Head Janitor says, in the current climate of panic, new laws from out of state are OK.Things in other states cannot affect California directly, nor can can we in California do much about things in other states. 'National movements' need participants in California before they go here. Executive orders? Let's see the text before posting here - otherwise, Off Topic, please3) Incidents of gun usage ALWAYS go to Off Topic Yes, terrible incidents influence public opinion; public officials make public statements; sometimes bills or regulations are forthcoming.4) Private companies and individuals are not bound by the Second Amendment; stories of their behaviors go to Off Topic. Google is doing something dumb? Off Topic. Open thread ...
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ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."Ann Althouse: “Begin with the hypothesis that what they did is what they wanted to do. If they postured that they wanted to do something else, regard that as a con. Work from there. The world will make much more sense.” Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs. |
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I propose that once an out of state law is passed the discussion regarding the legal challenge occur here, especially if it is filed or going to be filed in federal court.
I agree with keeping the "what if" conversations to a minimum, but it looks likely that some state or two is going to push their laws too far with the end result being a trip to SCOTUS. That certainly *can* affect us here. Regards, SwissFluCase
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ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."Ann Althouse: “Begin with the hypothesis that what they did is what they wanted to do. If they postured that they wanted to do something else, regard that as a con. Work from there. The world will make much more sense.” Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs. |
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How about a non-CA 2A sub-forum? I really try to avoid OT most of the time, but I do want to follow out of state items that have relevance 2A. Include the fact that OT threads get moved down several pages within hours can make following certain threads difficult at best.
I'm much more interested in the fight of NY, IL, MD etc. than I am about Onion Rings. ETA: It's pretty clear 2013 is going to be a busy 2A year across the country and the threads will just keep coming. |
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I was about to suggest the same as tba02. I think the point of eliminating them from this thread makes sense, so we can sort through the legit issues related to CA... but moving them to the OT forum will have the same problem there for the issues we do want to find.
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So it sounds like everything under the sun goes into OT... just curious for some clarification on what is appropriate for the General forum?
Thanks!
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Usage note: the Head Janitor has made a Special Dispensation for New York's new law.
One thread only, please - this is it: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=679350
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ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."Ann Althouse: “Begin with the hypothesis that what they did is what they wanted to do. If they postured that they wanted to do something else, regard that as a con. Work from there. The world will make much more sense.” Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs. Last edited by Librarian; 01-16-2013 at 10:08 AM.. |
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First, it's lower traffic, so important things don't get shoved to the second page very quickly. Second, there's a bunch of specialized forums to cover specifics of hand guns, long guns, rimfire, shotguns, C&R. So things that are gun related, but generally not politics or incidents of use or legal issues are usually there. Allowing for our current state of alarm, what's there now (haven't looked this morning!) is about the norm.
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ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."Ann Althouse: “Begin with the hypothesis that what they did is what they wanted to do. If they postured that they wanted to do something else, regard that as a con. Work from there. The world will make much more sense.” Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs. |
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Bump for update.
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ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."Ann Althouse: “Begin with the hypothesis that what they did is what they wanted to do. If they postured that they wanted to do something else, regard that as a con. Work from there. The world will make much more sense.” Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs. |
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That is not to say things in other states should be ignored; but look at the NY, MA and VT threads that exist now. They're falling off the front page. The specific behaviors of out of state politicians are no doubt part of a wider movement - but the movement is being applied at the individual state level; the details in other places really do not matter to California.
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ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."Ann Althouse: “Begin with the hypothesis that what they did is what they wanted to do. If they postured that they wanted to do something else, regard that as a con. Work from there. The world will make much more sense.” Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs. |
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Shouldn't incidents of gun usage, discussion of potential gun laws, and just about anything gun related go into "General Gun Discussion"?
Shouldn't only off topic (non-gun-related) stuff go into "Off Topic"? The way these new (relativity to me) rules are working out, most gun related discussion is ending up in Off Topic, which is a place I usually try to avoid like the plague. Off Topic is replete with vile and vicious threads which are counter to a sense of community. I'd like to go somewhere and discuss my similar interests (guns, gun laws, and gun related issues) without having to listen to the insanity that thrives in OT. Why not direct people to General Gun Discussion, and when mods move threads, move them to GGD? |
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The current "official" description of OT from the page when you're starting a new thread (like the one I just posted about Stallone coming out for a new federal AWB): "The 'off topic' discussion lounge Discuss non firearm related topics with other members." (underlining added) Or CGN needs to change that description of OT.
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I love how peirce morgan is such a d bag he had to be mentioned by name lol Should this thread be made a sticky? or into the thread post rules? I also have a sugestion for a new thread form how about things relating to the constatution thread so not particualry 2a issue but a constatution issue and it doesnt have to be just for calie since thats a federal law.
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