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Old 07-14-2018, 10:46 PM
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Wait, What?!! I never thought I would say this.... but is it finally time to vote for Feinstein? The CA Dem party just endorsed De Leon over Feinstein! I think we definitely do not want De Leon to win the CA Senators race.

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California Democratic Party Snubs Feinstein, Endorses De Leon

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — The California Democratic Party has snubbed U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein by giving its endorsement to her rival, state Sen. Kevin de Leon.

He won the party nod Saturday after a vote of the party’s roughly 360-member executive board made up of local officials and party activists.

A total of 217 delegates voted for de Leon, of Los Angeles, while 22 cast ballots for Feinstein and 94 voted for no endorsement.

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Another thread suggested letting De Leon win since he'll be a junior senator or something and have less power in committees as Feinstein does now.
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But he is such a goddamn Dbag...the ol'hag needs to leave but this guy?really?
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Would we be getting him out of our hair by sending him to the Senate?
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I will never vote for a son of illegal motherEFFING aliens! LONG can go beat himself off in a closet. Feinstien is a retard and will destroy the Democratic party the longer she is in office because she will divide them.
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Would we be getting him out of our hair by sending him to the Senate?
He's done politically if he doesn't win the senate.
He's termed out in Sacramento... can't hold another position in the senate or assembly.
Like "One Bill" Gil Cedillo, he'll be pushed down to running for a Los Angeles County supervisor or LA City Council office.
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But he is such a goddamn Dbag...the ol'hag needs to leave but this guy?really?
It looks to me like Diane Alzheimer is finished.

As to DeLeon, when you import Centeral Americans you get Central American politics...

Who could have forseen this?
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vote for her she will die soon really soon he wins he will be there for 30 years
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Sure be nice to see Leon out of politics and running a storefront service for illegals or something .
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If she dies, doesn't the govenor pick someone to server in her place? So if Cox wins then he can pick someone to serve much better than either one.
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Last poll DiFi was +22% over De Leon. She has enormous name recognition. I don't see how De Leon wins. He needs the party endorsement just to stay relevant .. I doubt he wins.
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Here is my thinking, old guard (Feinstein) vs new guard. Old guard, while effective is predictable and not as rabidly loony as new guard.
I would prefer predictable over rabid anyday.
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But "THE RECONQUISTA"... BUTThole... Period !
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Seems like another Trump Derangement Syndrome kneejerk reaction.
Honestly, neither are good for the state, but between the two, she is the more grown-up.
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He's done politically if he doesn't win the senate.
He's termed out in Sacramento... can't hold another position in the senate or assembly.
Like "One Bill" Gil Cedillo, he'll be pushed down to running for a Los Angeles County supervisor or LA City Council office.
That pretty much settles it then.

Logic says support Fineswine.
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If she dies, doesn't the govenor pick someone to server in her place? So if Cox wins then he can pick someone to serve much better than either one.
Cox isn't going to win.
OTOH, Newsom and Leon don't get along... there was a LOT of friction between the two on Prop-63 competing with Leon's bill.
When DiFi dies in office, expect Newsom to appoint Becerra or Portantino.
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Top two vote getters.

We still have the write-in option, so one strategy is to go back to the primary and write-in the Republican candidate who WOULD have been in the general had this election been held 8 years ago, but the problem with that is it won't get that person elected, it won't "send a message" any more than standing on a street corner with a sign, and it removes a vote against the person that you REALLY don't want in office vs the person you don't want in office.

Such "protest voting" cost Bush-41 the election and gave us 26 years of the Clintons. Perot did not carry a single state, but he took 18% of the popular vote, and enough votes from enough states to hand the Presidency to Clinton. Without Perot, Bush-41 would have carried California.
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That pretty much settles it then.

Logic says support Fineswine.
My suspicion is that he expected Dianne to retire... she's older than Barbara and they both took office at about the same time ('92 and '93)
Had he known or not expected Dianne to retire, it would have been more logical for him to run for some other state-level office... he would have had a shot at Lt. Gov.
OTOH, Dianne may have decided not to retire after finding out that Leon was going to be her likely replacement... they both announced in October '17.
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Here is the reason to vote DiFi - she is no longer an effective senator. DeLeon on the other hand will be pushing the socialist agenda big time - Kamila is also a junior senator and look at all the traction she is getting.
Bottom line DiFi or die. BTW she won't retire until she can had the reins to her liberal judge daughter.
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Top two vote getters.

We still have the write-in option, so one strategy is to go back to the primary and write-in the Republican candidate who WOULD have been in the general had this election been held 8 years ago, but the problem with that is it won't get that person elected, it won't "send a message" any more than standing on a street corner with a sign, and it removes a vote against the person that you REALLY don't want in office vs the person you don't want in office.

Such "protest voting" cost Bush-41 the election and gave us 26 years of the Clintons. Perot did not carry a single state, but he took 18% of the popular vote, and enough votes from enough states to hand the Presidency to Clinton. Without Perot, Bush-41 would have carried California.
Write-ins don't count unless the candidate is on the official write-in candidate list. Basically someone who filed too late to get their name on the ballot. No such candidates are allowed for the general election. Writing-in someone is effectively the same as leaving that race blank on the ballot (and leaving it blank is what I'm going to do for this one).
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Since will not get anything but a (D-irt bag) I say make certain the hag wins.

We sure don't want DeLoen..no way no how. That would be a huge mistake for us, IMO
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He's done politically if he doesn't win the senate.
He's termed out in Sacramento... can't hold another position in the senate or assembly.
Like "One Bill" Gil Cedillo, he'll be pushed down to running for a Los Angeles County supervisor or LA City Council office.
That's a valid point.
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Here is my thinking, old guard (Feinstein) vs new guard. Old guard, while effective is predictable and not as rabidly loony as new guard.
I would prefer predictable over rabid anyday.
That's just part of it. DiFi, Nancy P., and the Democrat "Old Guard" have sucked millions from the public teat and they refuse to let go. Thinking "How many millions of corrupt dollars is enough, already?" the younger pigs are pushing the older pigs away from the public trough.

Here's the thing: Obama showed how public money could be siphoned off to lefty causes, and the new Democrats, wanting to do that too, are just slightly more honest than the old guard, which wants all those dollars personally.

But none of that matters if the Dems can't come up with a viable program the rest of America will "buy."
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Cox isn't going to win.
OTOH, Newsom and Leon don't get along... there was a LOT of friction between the two on Prop-63 competing with Leon's bill.
When DiFi dies in office, expect Newsom to appoint Becerra or Portantino.
Cox has a better chance than De Leon. polling shows Newsom is +%17 over Cox. It's a long shot, but I suspect much more effort will go into Cox campaign vs.effort into De Leon.
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Cox has a better chance than De Leon. polling shows Newsom is +%17 over Cox. It's a long shot, but I suspect much more effort will go into Cox campaign vs.effort into De Leon.
One has nothing to do with the other.
Cox can not win in California.
For that matter, Cox has NEVER won... running as a Democrat in Chicago or as a Republican.
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One has nothing to do with the other.
Cox can not win in California.
For that matter, Cox has NEVER won... running as a Democrat in Chicago or as a Republican.
Cox can win .. What makes you think he can't ?
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Another thread suggested letting De Leon win since he'll be a junior senator or something and have less power in committees as Feinstein does now.
That has been said about Kamala Harris also.
Looks at the Crap Show she has brought to the seat.
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Cox can win .. What makes you think he can't ?
Because Prop 63 passed by 60%?
Because the primary was only 34% for Cox/Allen combined?
Because the primary was 59% non-Republican in a race that had 4 from each party?
Republican's best showing in any statewide race is less than 45%.
The democrats don't even need to campaign for the general.

Now add in Cox's record of losing every political race he has been involved in (all 6 of them).
And even if he wins, he's a carpetbagger on the order of Arnold. He's a Chicago liberal who couldn't win in his own state.

I'll vote for him, but I'm holding no hope of him defeating Newsom.
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Because Prop 63 passed by 60%?
Because the primary was only 34% for Cox/Allen combined?
Because the primary was 59% non-Republican in a race that had 4 from each party?
Republican's best showing in any statewide race is less than 45%.
The democrats don't even need to campaign for the general.

Now add in Cox's record of losing every political race he has been involved in (all 6 of them).
And even if he wins, he's a carpetbagger on the order of Arnold. He's a Chicago liberal who couldn't win in his own state.

I'll vote for him, but I'm holding no hope of him defeating Newsom.

What your saying is that he can win, but it's a long shot. Which is exactly what I said above. Did you also say "Trump can't win" , that didn't work out did it ?

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Given his loyalties are to Mexico, I would hold my nose and vote the hag.

Then she dies and Newsome gets to appoint Deleon.
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Wait, What?!! I never thought I would say this.... but is it finally time to vote for Feinstein?
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He's done politically if he doesn't win the senate.
He's termed out in Sacramento... can't hold another position in the senate or assembly.
Like "One Bill" Gil Cedillo, he'll be pushed down to running for a Los Angeles County supervisor or LA City Council office.
...and this is why. Smart gun rights voters will understand this.

Plus, if the "official" party wants him...reason enough to buck the little #!$@.

Sorry guys, we're eating a crap sandwich either way but it's clear what we need to do here.
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Yes, unfortunately.

...and this is why. Smart gun rights voters will understand this.

Plus, if the "official" party wants him...reason enough to buck the little #!$@.

Sorry guys, we're eating a crap sandwich either way but it's clear what we need to do here.
Play the hand that's dealt us.
Put aside emotions and realize this is simply a binary choice and let logic dictate this game move. We are not approving of Fineswine in any way with a vote for her. There is a bigger picture we are looking at.
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Please stop calling her " The Hag ". Merle would be rolling over in his grave. I can think of dozens of derogatory names to call her. Hey maybe a good idea for a new thread on Finestain.
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That pretty much settles it then.

Logic says support Fineswine.
I still can’t belive I might have to vote for Feinstein...
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Dianne Feinstein is just too right-wing for the now-socialist Democratic Party


It was no secret that hardcore progressives – who now view lifelong leftist Dianne Feinstein as some kind of right-wing overlord – were going to attempt to stomp California deeper into the left-wing Democrat mire by denying Feinstein their party’s endorsement. Still, it was supposed to be a close vote. No one expected the landslide defeat that Feinstein suffered this weekend.

Ballots cast by 333 executive board members awarded the California Democratic Party endorsement to Feinstein’s challenger, state Sen. Kevin de León, by a whopping 65% to 7% margin. You can view the breakdown, including a sizeable “no endorsement” contingent, below:

VOTING RESULTS — U.S. Senate:

Feinstein — 22 (7%)
de León — 217 (65%)
No Endorsement — 94 (28%) pic.twitter.com/BoxkNIk4sM

— California Democratic Party (@CA_Dem) July 15, 2018

Full article below:

http://hermancain.com/dianne-feinste...ocratic-party/
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