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For semi-serious answer:
If I'm carrying the guns legally and/or as I normally do, the AR is unloaded in the trunk and the handgun is on my person(yes, I CCW). I would get out of my car and head the opposite direction of the shooter. After I'm certain of my safety, I'll do the 911 call. Sorry, hero pay sucks(ie none) and my goal is to go home alive at the end of the day. Last edited by LTC-J; 04-22-2013 at 8:16 PM.. Reason: forgot my 911 call |
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You don't kill, take em out, or put a cap in his azz. You nullify the threat of loss of innocent lives including your own |
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^^^^that too. Ammo is expensive and hard to come by. Taxes and ammo prices have gone up. Not planning to spend more that a $1 to put that guy down
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If the ahole in question draws the magic number to have me in the vicinity, you can bet you last buck I will take him down or die trying. No two ways about it.
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You threw so many variables into the pot that it would take a book to thoroughly address them all; and books have been written on the subject. I would refer you to “In the Gravest Extreme” by Masad Ayoob as a starting point. Beyond what I have said already is the important question of collateral damage. You are not describing a situation in which most of us would want to try to make shots at a moving assailant. The battle ground is strewn with people and hard objects that are just waiting to deflect a bullet. Any of those people or their relatives would be happy to sue you if you injure or kill them. This is just the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot to think about and learn before you start carrying a gun for self defense. Fortunately it was taught to some of us as we grew up. The important question to answer is; in my heart of hearts do I honest to god believe that my life or body, or that of another is in danger? If the answer is yes; why wouldn’t you shoot? If it’s no; why would you? Because that is the question you will be held accountable for by both the law and your maker.
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Take not lightly liberty To have it you must live it And like love, don't you see To keep it you must give it "I will talk with you no more. I will go now, and fight you." (Red Cloud) Last edited by Meplat; 04-22-2013 at 8:47 PM.. |
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As for the car, that's what insurance is for. A gunfight in real life is as glamorous as a coronary. I've come close twice, and I pray I never have to pull the trigger. If you can avoid the threat, do so. Your kids, your lawyer, and your family will thank you for not playing John McClaine.
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The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be. The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be. -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream. |
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Strong Avatar to post content ratio.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...about-rampage/ |
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If this hypothetical occurs before June/2013, go ahead and do your worst. After June, he'll be able to cop the "Twinkie" defense, so you'd be in big legal trouble.
Yes, Twinkies will finally be back on sale in June. Seriously though, if you can take a clear shot and you are SWAT certified(a cop) or at least in the top 1% of shooters(non-LEO). He just met his maker. Just depends on a clear shot and your abilities. You don't want to witness all that gore/carnage and do nothing. Don't be surprised if you get shot, while looking like a "perp". No good deed goes unpunished. Oh..., and don't forget to lawyer up. That is going to be an expensive civil affair.
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Last edited by kimber_ss; 04-22-2013 at 10:53 PM.. |
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were there no one carrying where gun laws are even more relax than CA? or no one took up the challenge?
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Gun control is not about public safety. It's about power and wealth control. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Lord Acton I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson There's only one real party in America. It's called the Capitalist Party, and you ain't invited. |
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'OP if you actually saw the situation you described happening before your eyes, is there truly a question as to what you or anyone else would do, if they were so armed?
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I don't always save the world, but when I do, it's in 24 hours or less... Last edited by myk; 04-22-2013 at 10:57 PM.. |
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I remember thinking about that kind of scenario when that guy went around Hollywood Blvd shooting at passing cars...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onxabK8doqE There were a ton of people in buildings, all looking down at the shooter. Someone with a rifle could have put an end to that pretty quickly. |
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Tuck my .45 into my waistband and prepare to fire with my AR?
What kind of answer are you looking for? Seriously, what would you do? A.W.D.
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Any questions? |
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Fooled me. Quote:
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-hanko
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True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life. Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!! Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran |
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Lots of luck finding one. I have seen much better advice here than put out in some of my CCW training classes.
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Take not lightly liberty To have it you must live it And like love, don't you see To keep it you must give it "I will talk with you no more. I will go now, and fight you." (Red Cloud) |
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I find it comical how easily people here scream "troll!" If you all are so sensitive maybe you should make these forums accessible by invitation only.
I like these "what-if" type questions. I would run and hide preferably under a car. In California, it is just not worth engaging in a public shooting due to trigger happy cops, overzealous D.A.'s looking to make a name for themselves, ambulance chasing lawyers and an anti-gun news media. |
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It will start out, "as he lay under his car he remembered posting this ^^ on CGN and wondered, what was i thinking.... |
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Pounce!
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To paraphrase Russel Peters:
"Somebody gonna get hurt ... reeeeel bad".
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Pee yourself.
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"On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed" "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785 |
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