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Old 04-27-2018, 7:46 PM
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"There are many paths even in Christianity, Islam and other faiths."

Previously you stated Christ was influenced by budda. Your statement above contradicts what Christ specifically teaches.There is but one path and all others lead to destruction as stated below. Belief in Christ is the only way.

Matthew 7:13-16 states -
13“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
14“For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
15“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
16“You will know them by their fruits.....
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Old 04-27-2018, 9:02 PM
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"There are many paths even in Christianity, Islam and other faiths."

Previously you stated Christ was influenced by budda. Your statement above contradicts what Christ specifically teaches.There is but one path and all others lead to destruction as stated below. Belief in Christ is the only way.

Matthew 7:13-16 states -
13“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
14“For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
15“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
16“You will know them by their fruits.....
i am guessing by paths she meant the many different Christian denominations such as the Catholic church (if you consider Catholics to be christian, i know there is some internal debate there), Protestantism, Eastern Orthodox Church, Methodism, Calvinism, Anglicanism, those guy who play with snakes, and the many many others i didn't list.
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Not splitting hairs between denominations. Though I don't agree with certain other denominations teachings that does not preclude someone from being a brother or sister in Christ.

It was the reference to Islam and other faiths that I was keying off of as being paths.
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Its well documented about Jesus' early years, but there is a time frame that he was gone.
Not so much. From infancy to baptism (which was a new thing) is not as detailed, but the Bible clearly talks about him going to the temple as an annual and actually records an interesting event on one such trip that happened when he was 12, IIRC. It also speaks about him learning his father's trade, a carpenter.

I believe he was age 33 when he was executed, probably about 33 1/2.
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An interesting thing about Buddhism is the 8 fold path. One only needs to try it and they will discover, the truth of the secession, of suffering. there doesn't need to be verses cited nor evangelistic action, just try it and there you are.
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An interesting thing about Buddhism is the 8 fold path. One only needs to try it and they will discover, the truth of the secession, of suffering. there doesn't need to be verses cited nor evangelistic action, just try it and there you are.
Actually, that "Path" is all work and effort with no verified result at the end. Buddha died and never came back to verify that his way worked. He couldn't even prove that his way worked in this life. How do you verify the claims of the 8-fold path? You can't and you can't undo your past. Once a sinner, always a sinner.

Jesus proved that He is God by His miracles and then proved He is God and has the power to give you eternal life - by rising from the dead, Himself - with hundreds of witnesses to testify. Buddha? Dead.

Jesus only asks for faith alone in Him alone. He then indwells you with His Holy Spirit and empowers you to live righteously as a response to the eternal life He has given you - eternal life the you begin to experience now.

Sorry, but I see no comparison between what Jesus Christ offers and promises and what one of His creations tried to do as a replacement for true peace, joy, love, self-control (Eph. 5:22-23) and eternal life.

Try it and you'll never go back. It's all in His word -the Bible.

And, as He said - He's the only way, the only truth and the only life (John 14:6).
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Sorry, but I see no comparison between what Jesus Christ offers and promises and what one of His creations tried to do as a replacement for true peace, joy, love, self-control
how can Buddhism be a "replacement" for the teachings of Christianity if Buddhism predates Christianity by a few hundred years, how can you replace something that does not exist yet?
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Many beliefs, many paths, same destination. Some religions are like a Spirituality for Dummies textbook. Others ways let you enjoy the ride!

Edit: know its not the same belief....but miss being able to buy flowers from robed disciples at the airport. It was so comforting before a long flight.
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Many beliefs, many paths, same destination. Some religions are like a Spirituality for Dummies textbook. Others ways let you enjoy the ride!

Edit: know its not the same belief....but miss being able to buy flowers from robed disciples at the airport. It was so comforting before a long flight.
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how can Buddhism be a "replacement" for the teachings of Christianity if Buddhism predates Christianity by a few hundred years, how can you replace something that does not exist yet?
I don't quit understand what your trying to say. Call me confused
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I don't quit understand what your trying to say. Call me confused
It is was a response to bills earlier post that said Buddha was created by Jesus and tried to replace the teachings of Christianity. Buddha predates Jesus so he could not have been attempting to replace something that did not exist.
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Actually, that "Path" is all work and effort with no verified result at the end. Buddha died and never came back to verify that his way worked. He couldn't even prove that his way worked in this life. How do you verify the claims of the 8-fold path? You can't and you can't undo your past. Once a sinner, always a sinner.

Jesus proved that He is God by His miracles and then proved He is God and has the power to give you eternal life - by rising from the dead, Himself - with hundreds of witnesses to testify. Buddha? Dead.

Jesus only asks for faith alone in Him alone. He then indwells you with His Holy Spirit and empowers you to live righteously as a response to the eternal life He has given you - eternal life the you begin to experience now.

Sorry, but I see no comparison between what Jesus Christ offers and promises and what one of His creations tried to do as a replacement for true peace, joy, love, self-control (Eph. 5:22-23) and eternal life.

Try it and you'll never go back. It's all in His word -the Bible.

And, as He said - He's the only way, the only truth and the only life (John 14:6).
Using the logic of one religion as a basis to critique another religion is like trying to explain the meaning of The Force & the teachings of the Jedi to a Star Trek fan. Yes, they can follow the logic. But they just don't care.

Besides, Christians were pretty late in the whole resurrection story business. The Canaanites, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Animists, Shintoists all had resurrection stories long before Jesus's followers wrote theirs down. So you can talk about the resurrection until you're blue in the face but only other Christians will care. The rest of us, if we're polite, just smile and nod. If we believed every resurrection story ever told, we'd have a confusing mess of ideas, indeed.
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This sort of thinking has eternal consequenses. Be very careful.
Hey, relax! If somebody thinks that there's many paths, then let them. What's the harm? If they're right, you're square with whatever nonsense you happen to believe. And if they're wrong, then only they are affected -- they can't take you to hell with them, right? That's a good relationship -- all the upside, none of the risk.

Unless, of course, you were right about there being one path but wrong about the one you chose. Then, in that case, you're f***ed.

I'm mostly joking. But, hey, my logic is sound.
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If you're wrong your logic is NOT sound. This is literally playing with fire.

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It is was a response to bills earlier post that said Buddha was created by Jesus and tried to replace the teachings of Christianity. Buddha predates Jesus so he could not have been attempting to replace something that did not exist.
I think Bill's point is that Jesus, as God, predates all existence and therefore would indeed predate Buddha, and not that His earthly ministry came before the ideas of Buddha.

Though, truly, alot of His earthly ministry were ideas of Judaism from a certain perspective. So much did in fact exist already.

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If you're wrong your logic is NOT sound. This is literally playing with fire.

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.Jn 4:16
Ah, pascal's wager. I never found that philosophical argument for the belif in a Christian God convincing. What if we are both wrong and the Hindus are correct. If that's the case we are both playing with fire.
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When you say the law, are you talking about teachings by Jesus? Because we are talking about the bible mostly which is a record of his teachings and his life.
The new testament is about Jesus, the old testament includes Jewish/Christian law.
There is a common string through the teaching of most religions. The common thread is the heart of men, that has never changed. The fight of good vs evil. The different religions treat that differently but it is the common thread for discussion.
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Ah, pascal's wager. I never found that philosophical argument for the belif in a Christian God convincing. What if we are both wrong and the Hindus are correct. If that's the case we are both playing with fire.
It's only my job to give you the Gospel. I can't convince you. The Gospel and the Spirit do the convincing. Whoever is right, that would still mean there is only one path. Not many.
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It is was a response to bills earlier post that said Buddha was created by Jesus and tried to replace the teachings of Christianity. Buddha predates Jesus so he could not have been attempting to replace something that did not exist.
I understand now.
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Ooh! I love playing with fire! Once you learn about it, it isn't nearly as dangerous as your parents taught you when you were two. You find out how to use it safely and do some pretty cool stuff. Like shoot guns, for example!

Wait, what were we talking about? I'm sure there's a parallel in that metaphor but I lost it thinking about playing with fire.
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Don’t worry CV. You have plenty of time to play with fire if you continue on your current path.
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