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Old 05-30-2018, 4:00 PM
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www.snipercentral.com is good to go for 03FFL/COE holders. Best way to submit your paperwork is to use the contact us tab and get ahold of Bryon Eyre. Sent copies of my paperwork last night and they replied this morning with a go ahead to order.
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BuffaloBore, BangItAmmo, White Birch Armory and Sniper Central added. Thanks for the contribution!
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Add Selwayarmory.com. out of Montana to the list. Just email your 03FFL/COE to contact@selwayarmory.com and wait for the email reply. Just placed an order. Nevermind already on the list.

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so long as you provide us your eligibility paperwork as outlined here: A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, 15 whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710

then yes, we're happy to ship ammo to 03's
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so long as you provide us your eligibility paperwork as outlined here: A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, 15 whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710

then yes, we're happy to ship ammo to 03's
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Can you please add Extreme Reloading to the list? We just need you to setup an acct on our website and send us a copy of your FFL and we can have you setup and going.
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Can you please add Extreme Reloading to the list? We just need you to setup an acct on our website and send us a copy of your FFL and we can have you setup and going.
Thanks for posting to this thread. I've added you to the list. Can you confirm that you indeed ship to FFL03? And I would also assume you will need a copy of our COE. What is the best way to send that to you?
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Thanks for posting to this thread. I've added you to the list. Can you confirm that you indeed ship to FFL03? And I would also assume you will need a copy of our COE. What is the best way to send that to you?
Yes we will ship to FFL's with an 03. We will need a copy of this. I recommend setting up an account on our site, email us with the email address you used to create the account along with your FFL and we will get your account switched over to a dealer account. This can be sent to sales@extremereloadingnv.com
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I sure hope the DOJ is enjoying all this extra paperwork...
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I sure hope the DOJ is enjoying all this extra paperwork...
My Fed Ex guy stated there are not many people on his route getting "those" packages. There used to be many more. So it does seem the DOJ's end game of "Right" restriction is working even though their may be a paperwork hit for their subjects.
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great info thanks!!
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I made a searchable database that contains most of those merchants.

http://ca03ffl.us/ammo/

It's still "under construction" and it's not getting updated in real time like ammoseek and it probably lacks some features, but it's pretty functional.

If you have any suggestions or bug reports, I'm all ears.
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I know this isnt directly about vendors, but are there any 03 ffls around the san jose/santa cruz area?
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I know this isnt directly about vendors, but are there any 03 ffls around the san jose/santa cruz area?
Of course there are.
What difference does it make though?
Are you going to try to get one to illegally order, accept and transfer ammo to you?
Get your own FFL and COE...
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Of course there are.
What difference does it make though?
Are you going to try to get one to illegally order, accept and transfer ammo to you?
Get your own FFL and COE...
Good on you for jumping to conclusion, im glad we have people like you as the face of gun ownership in CA that are dick bag forum trolls. If i were trying to skirt a law i sure as hell wouldnt post about it on a public forum with dudes like you on here. Maybe it was a question and seek for help, and who they went to. But no, its cool.
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Good on you for jumping to conclusion, im glad we have people like you as the face of gun ownership in CA that are dick bag forum trolls. If i were trying to skirt a law i sure as hell wouldnt post about it on a public forum with dudes like you on here. Maybe it was a question and seek for help, and who they went to. But no, its cool.
Who they went to for what?

What are you trying to find out?

Why not just ask the question?

I thought the same thing when reading your post, why does it matter if there are 03FFL’s in that area?

Do you not understand what an 03 FFL is?
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Who they went to for what?

What are you trying to find out?

Why not just ask the question?

I thought the same thing when reading your post, why does it matter if there are 03FFL’s in that area?

Do you not understand what an 03 FFL is?
Yes, an 03 ffl is for curious and relics, but now recently everyone is getting one and also getting their COE so they themselves can order ammo direct from a supplier without having to pay CA sales tax and ship directly to their residence. thats probably 90% of the reason ca doj process so many 03ffl now a days.

But if youre a peace officer, federal officer, etc you are exempt and the 03ffl has no benefit unless you want to buy some old m1 or sks.

So would someone go to sheriff hart or go to COP mills to fulfill an 03 ffl paperwork?
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I know this isnt directly about vendors, but are there any 03 ffls around the san jose/santa cruz area?

Yes there are thousands of 03 FFLs all over the place. They are living quietly in their private homes, carrying on with their happy C&R lives. They are not open for business. Why would you ask this question? Lots of posters here find it a little creepy.

Local Law Enforcement has nothing to do with issuing this paper and cannot assist you. Except as part of the FFL 03 process you'll mail your local LEA a copy of your application.


Here's some useful C&R / COE information.


Curio and Relic (FFL 03) is issued by the ATF, a Federal Agency.

Certificate of Eligibility (COE) is issued by CA DOJ, a California State Agency. COEs are unique to California, no other State has the same thing.


Google Search "how to get a California COE"

Google Search "how to get a c&r license"



CA Bureau of Firearms website (Check out the countdown clock for registering “Assault” weapons)

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms


Certificate of Eligibility website. Read all the way to the bottom of the page. Has everything you need to know.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/cert-eligibility


CFARS - California DOJ - BOF online site to apply for COE online and a bunch of other important CA firearm stuff. Sign up to get yerself an account. Snuggle into the warm embrace of your State Bureaucracy.

https://cfars.doj.ca.gov/login.do

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The paper form for COE application. #1 question, I did Live Scan fingerprints for ______. Do I have to do LiveScan again. The answer is always ‘Yes.’ Anything that requires LiveScan always wants their own, new set of fingerprints.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...ms/coeapp.pdf?


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Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives website

https://www.atf.gov


How to Become a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL)

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/apply-license


Curios and Relics (FFL 03)

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios-relics


ATF FFL license application

https://www.atf.gov/file/61506/download


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Great source of C&R info for Californians. This Empire Arms page has been online for decades and was just updated a couple of weeks ago. This guy knows his stuff, but like everything online you need to verify information from multiple sources.

Special regulations for California C&R FFL's

https://www.empirearms.com/cal-ffl.htm


A CalGuns C&R Thread

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=449255


How to Get a C&R License - From J&G website

http://www.jgsales.com/how-to-getc-r-license-a-50.html
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Yes, an 03 ffl is for curious and relics, but now recently everyone is getting one and also getting their COE so they themselves can order ammo direct from a supplier without having to pay CA sales tax and ship directly to their residence. thats probably 90% of the reason ca doj process so many 03ffl now a days.

But if youre a peace officer, federal officer, etc you are exempt and the 03ffl has no benefit unless you want to buy some old m1 or sks.

So would someone go to sheriff hart or go to COP mills to fulfill an 03 ffl paperwork?

To get your 03FFL which is Federal NOT state DOJ, you go online print out the forms and mail them in with your fee. For your COE you do the same thing and you must also go have a Livescan done give them the form they need to fill out pay them and then mail CA. DOJ. the application.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/cert-eligibility

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So we dont need to address the COP or sheriff?
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Local Law Enforcement has nothing to do with issuing this paper and cannot assist you. Except as part of the FFL 03 process you'll mail your local LEA a copy of your application.
No need to talk to Sheriff. They have no paperwork or information for you.

As part of the C&R FFL application process you will provide your Local Law Enforcement Agency a copy of your application. They will not respond to you. They will not do anything with it. They will not approve it. They might file it. If you are a famous criminal with warrants out on you they might come after you.

In answer to your question, No, you Don't need to Address the COP or Sheriff other than providing them a copy of your C&R application.
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Yes, an 03 ffl is for curious and relics, but now recently everyone is getting one and also getting their COE so they themselves can order ammo direct from a supplier without having to pay CA sales tax and ship directly to their residence. thats probably 90% of the reason ca doj process so many 03ffl now a days.

But if youre a peace officer, federal officer, etc you are exempt and the 03ffl has no benefit unless you want to buy some old m1 or sks.

So would someone go to sheriff hart or go to COP mills to fulfill an 03 ffl paperwork?
So you clearly don't know what an 03FFL is then or where it comes from.
It's a federal license for collectors of curio and relics.
It's not for dealers.
Licensed 03FFL's are specifically NOT allowed to deal in firearms.
The license is for personal use only.
Buying/selling for purposes of profit is specifically prohibited.

To obtain one, you fill out the form, pay your $30 to the BATFE and they do a background check and mail it to you.
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So you clearly don't know what an 03FFL is then or where it comes from.
It's a federal license for collectors of curio and relics.
It's not for dealers.
Licensed 03FFL's are specifically NOT allowed to deal in firearms.
The license is for personal use only.
Buying/selling for purposes of profit is specifically prohibited.

To obtain one, you fill out the form, pay your $30 to the BATFE and they do a background check and mail it to you.
I swear i clearly stated its for curious and relics and never stated anything for the resale to the public, you clearly came in here with a direct tone thinking im trying to skirt the system, and try to claim im doing illegal ****.

I know what an 03ffl is for. But right on. Im out
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No need to talk to Sheriff. They have no paperwork or information for you.

As part of the C&R FFL application process you will provide your Local Law Enforcement Agency a copy of your application. They will not respond to you. They will not do anything with it. They will not approve it. They might file it. If you are a famous criminal with warrants out on you they might come after you.

In answer to your question, No, you Don't need to Address the COP or Sheriff other than providing them a copy of your C&R application.
So sending a copy to the sheriff is all thats necessary on that part, thanks. Then just livescan and credit of eligibility. Easy enough
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So sending a copy to the sheriff is all thats necessary on that part, thanks. Then just livescan and credit of eligibility. Easy enough

No LiveScan for the C&R FFL. Just send in application and fee and wait. Couple of weeks or a couple of months.

LiveScan is part of the COE application.


It's all there online, all the instructions and forms.
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An Interesting Update for Target Sports USA - Just an FYI for TSUSA - No I am not a shill for them BUT - I have paid for their PRIME membership which gives you free shipping on everything AND reduced pricing on products. The cost of the prime is 95$ per year and , since the shooting family is very active in the summer months, after 2 orders we have already saved the cost of the yearly membership. This now allows me to mix and match my ongoing orders without fear of the "shipping gorilla" killing me.
Just my 2 cents for something that is working for me.
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Yes we will ship to FFL's with an 03. We will need a copy of this. I recommend setting up an account on our site, email us with the email address you used to create the account along with your FFL and we will get your account switched over to a dealer account. This can be sent to sales@extremereloadingnv.com
I appreciate EV for participating in selling and shipping direct to FFL03. I have been purchasing from them for reloads for a couple of years now and have no complaints. They are decent humans and have solid customer service.
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An Interesting Update for Target Sports USA - Just an FYI for TSUSA - No I am not a shill for them BUT - I have paid for their PRIME membership which gives you free shipping on everything AND reduced pricing on products. The cost of the prime is 95$ per year and , since the shooting family is very active in the summer months, after 2 orders we have already saved the cost of the yearly membership. This now allows me to mix and match my ongoing orders without fear of the "shipping gorilla" killing me.
Just my 2 cents for something that is working for me.
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I just received my first package from them the other day, feels great to give CA my middle finger. The PRIME membership is amazing, will make up that 95$ with 3 orders. Typically shipping is around 14-20$ per transaction with with most websites. Plus, you get a discount on all of their ammunition which makes it even more enticing. I would buy it just for the free shipping.
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If you live within the city limits of a municipality that has its own Police Department, send your notice to the Chief of Police of that municipality. If you live within the city limits of a municipality that does not have its own Police Department or if you live in the County outside of any municipality, send the notice to the County Sheriff.
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I made a searchable database that contains most of those merchants.

http://ca03ffl.us/ammo/

It's still "under construction" and it's not getting updated in real time like ammoseek and it probably lacks some features, but it's pretty functional.

If you have any suggestions or bug reports, I'm all ears.


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Any recent updates or reports?

I'm on my third order from TargetSportsUSA this year. I've joined their Prime Ammo club and am enjoying the even lower pricing and free shipping. I'm not hesitant to buy one or two boxes of ammo I just want to try out or compare.

I also placed an order for some 9mm Federal HST from BoneFrogClub. Not a bad price at ~.36/rd for 124 gr. I had my order from them in three days. Outstanding service.

Also thought I'd mention that my COE expires in September so I went ahead and renewed through CFARS. 20 minutes and $22 later I'm extended out 'til September 2019.
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Anyone talked with SGAmmo recently? They keep emailing me about really good deals that I wish I could take advantage of...
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Old 07-25-2018, 5:28 PM
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Also thought I'd mention that my COE expires in September so I went ahead and renewed through CFARS. 20 minutes and $22 later I'm extended out 'til September 2019.
What does the CFARS renewal process entail? Can that be done every year, or do you need new Livescans?
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Old 07-25-2018, 6:04 PM
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What does the CFARS renewal process entail? Can that be done every year, or do you need new Livescans?
Livescan is only for your first application.
After that, they just want your money.

If you let your COE lapse, then you get to do a new livescan.
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Livescan is only for your first application.
After that, they just want your money.

If you let your COE lapse, then you get to do a new livescan.
Okay, thanks.
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Anyone talked with SGAmmo recently? They keep emailing me about really good deals that I wish I could take advantage of...
On their website, it says they stopped shipping directly to 03FFL/COE holders. And actually, several of the vendors listed as "friendly" on the original post appear to have reversed their policy - several of the ones I tried are Ammoman.com, Brownells.com, and SGAmmo.com. I wonder what precipitated the change, though?

I've never purchased from these other vendors, but it looks like I need to start expanding my list a little bit.

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The more general announcement from Brownell's FAQ didn't mention anything about 03FFL + COE: https://www.brownells.com/helpcenter...ndex.htm?id=36

However, I called them up and they did confirm they're still processing direct shipments to 03FFL and COE holders.
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