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Madera - *** TIME TO APPLY!!! ***
UPDATE (2015 March 04): removed dead links to out-of-date CGF materials. Here's a link to the sheriff's CCW information webpage:
http://www.madera-county.com/index.p...s-permit-forms UPDATE (2014 Sept 11): Per my (Paladin) post below (#30), Madera appears to accept mere self-defense (SD) as sufficient Good Cause (GC). See RANDO's posts 36 & 37 as well. If anyone applies for a CCW using "self-defense" as Good Cause and is rejected for lack of/insufficient GC, please post such here and PM me (Paladin, username link in post #30 below), and I'll revised this OP and the thread title.
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I can't tell you how many people have replied to requests for help in Merced County saying they can't because they're in Madera County...I hope all those folks show up when it's go-time here in Madera!
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i was looking at the madera application and it says that a written test may be taken. what type of info is on the test?
i don't remember reading about this anyone?
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Are you talking about a written test for the safety/aptitude qualification? What part of the application process does the written test satisfy?
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on the madera application is says
"At the time of your appointment, you will take a written test, be fingerprinted, and photographed"
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PM 4 Front Sight diamond "If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?" Last edited by Blackhawk556; 11-23-2010 at 12:46 PM.. |
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I'm unfamiliar with the written test requirement and whether or not it's an acceptable requirement. In looking through the Fresno standard op procedures, I don't see anything about a written test.
I'll keep digging, hopefully someone else will chime in soon with a more definitive answer. |
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I'm good friends with a Madera County deputy and you guys in Madera are worrying for nothing. They are shall issue as long as you pass the background.
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anybody ever found out what the written test mentioned above is about??
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Madera county is shall issue.
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This is true. I have a good friend an RN who carries. He said the process was easy as pie.
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Excellent! Then the Sheriff should simply revise his policy to reflect such and eliminate those sections which run afoul of state and federal law.
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The law enforcement community has circled the wagons and we'll need the win in Ventura to move recalcitrant counties forward (rapidly).
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any progress on madera releasing their accepted statements?
I'm thinking of starting the process in the next several days.
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Same bla ? Can yoou connceal carry in court. Can it be loaded rtr and ccw ect also travel in roural areas were police response/ability to contact police is limited is good enough reason
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i'm having a hard time understanding this part. can you explain it again?
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I don't remember taking a test for madera county,but as stated before they are shall issue.the pre qual course one can take at sun mountain gun club,free of charge,fought by one of the deputies.it's top notch beginner stuff,and the deputy who teaches it is top notch as well.seriously nothing to worry about
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If you live in Madera county, have a clean record and are breathing, the only reason you do not have a CCW is that you have not applied for it.
Free CCW class every month. Protection of self and family as just cause. Minimal fees There is no excuse in Madera county to not have a CCW
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Madera County shows a whopping 1,059 active permits; or 9.804 permits per 1,000 adults according to CGF's License to Carry Initiative County map: |
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Here is a working link to the page. http://www.madera-county.com/index.p...s-permit-forms
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The forms are free, and can be found here.
The process is ridiculously easy. There was a waiting list for the free class, so I took the paid class at Houlding's, which was still taught by the same Sheriff's LT that approves your license. He flat out told us in class that he would accept "to protect my life and the lives of my family" as good cause, so that's what we should all put on our applications. I haven't looked at the forms lately, but when I did mine (and that reminds me - renewal is coming up before too much longer!) I was surprised to find that the actual fees that Madera County charges are lower than the fees that were listed on the forms, by a few bucks. The lady that took my forms told me that they'd reduced the fees to the point that would just minimally cover their costs, because they wanted as many people as possible to get the permits.
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I was told by the now retired Sheriff's LT, that only two words were necessary:
Self defense. Also was told this Sheriff doesn't take any of the money collected. The mandatory minimum fees go to County and State general funds. These people are aware that they work for Us, not the other way around. Thanks for posting the link a second time, mine had too many words, but takes you there none the less...
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Don't ask how many guns I own, I lost count. Last edited by JohnCCW; 09-11-2014 at 5:30 PM.. |
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The below from the 2nd page of the CCW FAQs .pdf linked at:
http://www.madera-county.com/index.p...s-permit-forms Emphasis (bold, underlining, italics) are in the original. I do NOT understand why the A to the Q continues beyond the underlined and italicized part if mere SD is truly sufficient GC. Nonetheless, I'll edit the OP and thread title to "TIME TO APPLY!!!". ***** What is the minimal standard for the Good Cause Statement? The basic principal that must be articulated is for defense of myself and my family against threats of serious injury or death from an assailant. There are numerous different ways to express this concept, but this is the basis for the “good cause” to issue a CCW. Many people understand, and should articulate, that law enforcement emergency responses may be quite extended in many areas of the county and wish to have a means to protect themselves against crimes of violence, involving a threat of great bodily injury or death, until law enforcement arrives. Many people will have other specific needs for an increased self defense ability, these should be clearly and briefly articulated (ie. owners or employees of businesses who carry large sums of money or valuable equipment; people who are required to travel or work in high crime or rural areas; people with physical impairments that would make it difficult or impossible to defend themselves or escape from an attack).
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 02-16-2015 at 11:13 AM.. |
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Well, I guess it is prudent to list the "official" GC statement verbatim on one's application.
What worked for me nearly 20 years ago could change...
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You should also ask them if mere "self-defense" is a sufficient Good Cause statement, and if not, will that change once Peruta is finalized. If it is sufficient, you may want to suggest to them that they post that on their web because what they've got there now is confusing and may discourage law-abiding applicants.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 11-21-2014 at 12:54 PM.. |
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What did they say re. the questions/issues I suggested?
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Sorry I dropped the ball, I've been really busy with my apprenticeship since moving to Madera county. I'll call the sheriff's office this week and head to the police dept around the corner and get some info to update everyone.
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So. I finally called and spoke to the lady that handles the CCW stuff (I don't remeber her name) and asked her if I could apply using the 2014 application still available online, I also asked if there was a minimum amount of time time I had to be a resident of Madera county, and I asked if there was a minimum age requirement. I was told the 2014 application is still good for the 2015 year, they "prefer" you to be resident for at least 6 months and the minimum age is 21. She also said I could go to the DMV and get one of the brown paper cards to use for my new address and that because I began living within the county in the beginning of December that I should still apply and by the time I'm approved i would have lived here for 6 months
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So I just spoke to the sheriff's office and asked if self defense was a sufficient enough reason to obtain a ccw permit and I was told I don't need a reason, approval depends on the applicant's background.
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This is awesome
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That's Great! That solves the problem for the vast majority of law-abiding folks in Madera Co. Next Q: Does "legal to own" a firearm = GMC? Or do they go around asking your employer and/or neighbors if they approve of you getting a permit to carry a "hidden gun"? I don't live in Madera Co. Where I live, the antis vastly out number Americans who believe in a RKBA or our 2nd A. Not only would they not approve of me (or anyone else) getting a CCW, it could cause friction w/neighbors as well as let them know I've got guns in my home. (Thus, their teenage kids will known, and whoever those kids want to tell will know, and so on it goes until BGs find out.... )
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The sherrif offers 1 free class a month to new applicants instead of having them pay for a ccw course. When the sherrif was running for election his campaign signs had his name and the "J" in his name was an inverted pistol
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