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Old 04-01-2011, 10:31 AM
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What sort of ballpark range would you expect from these with the stock antennas?

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With absolutely NOTHING in the way, on a clear day, and no interference: about 25 miles (Think mountaintop or hilltop to ground). Suburban neighborhoods (think flat land, houses, no taller than 2 stories & not too much concrete) around 3 to 5 miles. Realistic range in urban environments (say downtown LA) with alot of concrete buildings probably 1 mile MAX with lots of dead spots. If youre inside concrete building mile max.

Remember, these radios can talk to repeaters also. Repeat function aside, the repeater has to be able to hear whats transmitting, essentially a radio on a hilltop or tower. Handhelds are no different. Granted, the antennas arent nearly as good as whats on a repeater tower, but if you took that handheld up at the same level as a repeater, you should be able to talk to a similar handheld at roughly the same distance (again, obstructions and interference not withstanding.)

***Ok, stupid disclaimer before somebody tries it, OR I get a bunch of "helpful" radio propagation "specialists" weighing in: DO NOT try testing what I said by driving up a mountain top right next to a repeater, not hearing squat, and calling me a liar. If you try this next to a repeater site, your radio will be bombarded by interference and you will not be able to get the range you expect, actually more importantly you will not be able to RECIEIVE well. Repeater sites have special filtering that rejects interference, since there are many radios so close together transmitting at high power. Your handheld will not have this.***
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With absolutely NOTHING in the way, on a clear day, and no interference: about 25 miles (Think mountaintop or hilltop to ground). Suburban neighborhoods (think flat land, houses, no taller than 2 stories & not too much concrete) around 3 to 5 miles. Realistic range in urban environments (say downtown LA) with alot of concrete buildings probably 1 mile MAX with lots of dead spots. If youre inside concrete building mile max.
That sounds like the same range as mass market GMRS that you can buy for $40 a pair.
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K1dude,

That would be correct, the frequency range of the GMRS stuff is UHF, and the 70cm band of Ham stuff is UHF, therefore the range will pretty much be identical. The only downfall with a true GMRS cheapie handheld, is that you will NOT be able to program it to the ham bands, you can do it the other way around with these Wouxuns though. More channels, more bands, more options to get heard... Its a personal choice though...

Also, keep in mind, the majority of these Wally/Target GMRS/FRS radios are NOT capable of being programmed to operate with a repeater. It may not matter to you, but since I have my own repeaters it makes a BIG difference to me... Also the TRUE FRS radios that truly require no license are mandated to be limited to 500 milliwatts out ( watt).
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Great little radio, got mine last night, works great, the manual is well writen, but emptyskulls info has been even better, thanks again, as for as out of the box battery power, it pretty much lasted all day
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The manual is OK... it gets you where you need to go, but I found for a few things, it doesnt even mention or vaguely mentions on how to do things. I really hope you got the programming cable for it. It makes things sooooo much easier than dealing with the front panel menu...
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So there are 3 models of this which one do you buy and from where? Is there a larger rubber duck antenna to buy or any goodies (case etc)?
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PC,

I got 2 of mine from Ed at www.wouxun.us. I bought 2 radios at the same time which I believe is a better deal shipping wise, I paid $22 for shipping to my work in LA for both radios and a few accessories. I think k1dude on this thread said his shipping was $23 (to what city I dont know) for 2 radios as well.

As far as accessories go:

Wouxun.us carries the KG-UV2D and sells: xtra batteries, ear mic's, boom mics, leather cases, speaker mic (2 prong kenwood mics work too), factory replacement antennas, cigarette lighter plug for factory pocket charger, cigarette ligher plug w/ battery eliminator, AA battery pack, cloning cable, and a dual pocket charger.

Main trading has the same stuff, carries the KG-UVD1P model, but also sells: a high gain antenna, SMA to UHF pigtail, pocket reference guide, and spare knobs.

Ham radio outlet sells the KG-UV3D (resold from importer powerwerx). I have no idea what other accessories HRO carries, I do know they have the programming cable though.

As I have said before they're all the same, the only difference is the plastic. Just pick the one that "looks" better to you and pick the bandsplit submodel that you want.

Another thing I should mention is that the antenna connector on the Wouxuns are what Hamsters call "reverse" SMA, I call it (and most commercial radio people call it) NORMAL:

The Wouxun radios use the same SMA polarity and gender as Kenwood and Motorola COMMERCIAL radios (Standard center pin polarity SMA MALE "dick" with connector threads on the INSIDE on the RADIO... Standard center pin socket SMA FEMALE "hole" with connector threads on the outside, on the ANTENNA).

Most Ham radios use the opposite GENDER on the SMA. (Standard center pin polarity SMA MALE on the ANTENNA, standard center pin socket SMA FEMALE on the RADIO).

Ok with that out of the way, id like to correct the Ham misnomer about calling the connectors "reverse"; reverse SMA's are what you would find on WIFI routers, they are technically called REVERSE POLARITY SMA's (reverse SMA's for short). The difference being the center pin polarity is reversed (connector threads are the same, but swap the center pin "dick" and the "hole" around.

Whew... ok sorry to go off tangent there, but that crap has been bugging me... LOL.

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Doing a bit of thread cleanup, changing post #2 to a thread index & tips. Sorry I've given up on pictures, I dont have a decent camera that does close ups. Use the seller links in post #1 to view pictures of the radios & accessories.
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one more source for the radio and access:

www.powerwerx.com

btw, wouxun is coming out with a 2 band mobile... i cant wait for that. they claim or others have claimed to be under $200... yowzah!

http://www.worldwidedx.com/vhf-uhf-b...0r-mobile.html

btw, i 've had my wouxun for over a few months now. i bought it as a backup to my vx-7r. which was great since now my 7r is on the fritz and has to go back to yaesu for repair...

btw, one more wacky thing about the radio, at least on my UV2 is that the rubber rucky antenna uses a reverse SMA mount. so if you are looking to add a mag mount antenna or some other kind, you need to buy the reverse SMA to BNC or reverse SMA to SO...
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ldivinag,

Ham Radio Outlet is reselling the powerwerx radio, same price. The only reason I mentioned HRO instead of powerwerx directly is because powerwerx only deals mail order, which is not a problem, but I figure if you actually wanted to walk into a store and look at the radios, HRO has them.

See post #48 about the antenna connector...
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PROGRAMMING & SAVING THE FM RADIO (BROADCAST) CHANNELS:

The Wouxun manual totally fails in explaining how to save FM radio stations into memory. First off there are 2 banks to save FM radio stations in. Wouxun calls them "Team 1" and "Team 2" (dont ask me why). Each bank or "team" can save 9 stations. You can access the "teams" by pressing the "#" key when in FM listening mode. Also, you CANNOT use the programming software to save FM stations.

Ok, now on to HOW to actually save the stations:
1: Put the radio into FM listening mode by pressing the button below the PTT key.
2: Use the channel select knob to tune to the station that you want, for example: 95.5
3: Press the "#" key, the display will say "Team 1" or "Team 2", keep pressing the # key until the Team (memory bank) you want is shown on the display.
4: Press the "menu" key, the display will say "SAVE?", now press the number key where you want to save this station (only buttons 1 thru 9, "0" wont work).

You are done... At this point you can change the channel with the select knob, and verify you have saved the station by pressing the key that you saved it to earlier, it should go back to that station.

A side note here: These Wouxun radios can do dual monitor, that is listen to 2 channels (VHF or UHF), HOWEVER it is not a true dual recieve. What this means is that if you are listening to 2 channels say, "home" on Band A and "work" on Band B, if "home" transmits, the radio will hear it and STOP listening to the other band until the traffic stops. The same applies the other way around. In other words, it doesnt multi-task, it concentrates on one conversation at a time...

When listening to FM Broadcast channels, the same thing applies. Just keep in mind that while listening to FM Broadcast, it takes the place of your 2nd Band. So, say you are listening to "work" on Band B as your selected band, when you press the FM button, it will listen to the FM Station INSTEAD of Band A. Its either/or, not both. 2-way radio traffic will override FM listening.

So, you can listen to:
"A" + "B"
UHF + UHF
VHF + UHF
UHF + VHF
VHF + VHF
UHF + FM
FM + UHF
VHF + FM
FM + VHF

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Its pronounced like Ocean.

I got one of these a few months ago, neat little radio.

For the cost of the radio, 2 extended batts car charger etc i still paid less than a my vx8r

Oh also I got mine from Hongkong

http://www.409shop.com/shop.php

few dollars cheaper but about a week longer for shipping.

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Whats your opinion on the recieve on the Wouxun vs your VX-8R? I find that the Wouxun reciever has cleaner recieve on fringe signals than my VX-8DR...
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I dont notice much difference in receive.

Audio is louder on the wouxun though because the 8R is water resistant, i think your 8DR is the same? I am using the same Diamond SRH320A antennas on both radios now but the stock antenna wasnt all that.

I did accidentally leave my 8R outside overnight on a table where it did get light rain, it sure survived that test.
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I was just comparing with both stock antennas & standard wave antennas on mag mounts with SMA adapters. The Wouxun beats my Yaesu by a slim margin.

But yeah volume wise, the recieve audio on the Wouxun is very loud.
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"As I have said before they're all the same, the only difference is the plastic. Just pick the one that "looks" better to you and pick the bandsplit submodel that you want. "

And which one do I want?
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one more source for the radio and access:

www.powerwerx.com
Powerwerx is good people, and their info page on the radio looks to be the most complete. I've ordered a lot of Powerpole goodies from them so they would be my first choice as a source. They once put a free Powerwerx T-shirt in my shipment and free T-shirts tend to keep me coming back.

Question for you guys who have one: can you run the radio from external 12V using this cable or do you really need their battery eliminator? Or in other words, does the radio itself have a 2.1mm jack for 12V input? The diagram on pg. 6 of the manual doesn't mention one, but shows some kind of jack/connector/button below the mic input that isn't labeled in the diagram.
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one more source for the radio and access:

www.powerwerx.com

btw, wouxun is coming out with a 2 band mobile... i cant wait for that. they claim or others have claimed to be under $200... yowzah!

http://www.worldwidedx.com/vhf-uhf-b...0r-mobile.html

btw, i 've had my wouxun for over a few months now. i bought it as a backup to my vx-7r. which was great since now my 7r is on the fritz and has to go back to yaesu for repair...

btw, one more wacky thing about the radio, at least on my UV2 is that the rubber rucky antenna uses a reverse SMA mount. so if you are looking to add a mag mount antenna or some other kind, you need to buy the reverse SMA to BNC or reverse SMA to SO...
That would be nice to have 2 Meters and 220 mhz in a Mobile.
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Anyone have an idea of the band a person would want for shtf?
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Ok, you got me there... The FCC got quite annoying regarding part 95 in 2002. They USED to allow any part 90 radio to be used on MURS. Now thier rules say it has to be part 95 certified as well, but grandfathered in part 90 radios that were certified before 2002. Obviously these Wouxun radios werent around in 2002, so the "grandfather" clause would not apply to them. Really they are saying you can use the frequencies but good luck in finding a radio to use them on (as far as I know there is NO handheld radio that has true post 2002 part 95 certification, the one cheesy radio that supposedly is a MURS radio is certified only as a part 15 transmitter.)

Now practically speaking in an UNLICENSED band (just like in CB), is a federal soupnazi going to be monitoring and enforcing the rules on it? Most likely no... If youre using any radio on the MURS frequencies following thier 2 watt transmit limit (which by the way, the Wouxun low power mode is 1 watt), are they "going to find you"?, most likely not. At least youre on a band that EXPECTS unlicensed transmissions. If the FCC really wanted to be picky, they would go after the MILLIONS of unlicensed GMRS users out there (from department store sales of "walkie talkies"), thats a much larger base of targets than the few that are using MURS.

Yes, I know its a "wobbler", and only you can make a personal choice to follow whats practical/logical vs whats written in stone.
You still have it somewhat wrong. This transceiver is not a wobbler at all, it is illegal per part 95 rules to be used on the MURS frequencies. However, you are probably correct that if used responsibly, the FCC will not give it any attention.

Only the GMRS freaks care. These are those who hunt down illegal GMRS and MURS usage, and continue a campaign to get WalMart another others not to sell GMRS transceivers in the "bubble pack".

Background on MURS frequencies. There were originally known as the business band and were covered by part 90 rules... meaning license is needed. Sometime in the late 90's, the FCC requested comments on creating the MURS band out of these frequencies. The licensed business were largely against, but the manufacturers were prominently for it. The manufacturers were hurting on dwindling revenue year after year.

The FCC side with the manufacturers and created MURS during 2000. They sided with the manufacturers too much by requiring a maximum of 2 watts only. Manufacturers wanted to eliminate the used radio market as much as possible to shore up revenue. I believe this was the only stupid move the FCC made in creating MURS.

So those with a grandfathered part 90 license are allowed to use part 90 radios and higher wattage than allowed in MURS. Starting in 2002, the FCC adapted rules in part 95 that allowed any part 90 transceiver prior to 2000, but still has to meet the technical specifications of MURS. The big spec is maximum of 2 watts. This does not include any part 90 transceiver with a low switch of 2 watts or less. This is maximum.

So even if that radio was typed accepted per part 90 prior to 2000, it would still be illegal for any MURS user other than a part 90 licensee.

However, I say use what you have or need even this radio on MURS. Or a 10meter rig on CB band. Just use it responsible.... phugk the feds, its our country not theirs. Unreasonable rules are meant to be ignored by responsible free men and women.
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Radio check......... Anybody out there?

Which one do I buy?

136-174 & 216-280 (VHF & 220 MHz)
136-174 & 350-470 (VHF & low cut UHF)
136-174 & 420-520 (VHF & high cut UHF)
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Sorry, been out running around. You probably want the 420 to 520 high cut. If you want to listen to say LASD or LBPD they will be on that band.
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Sorry, been out running around. You probably want the 420 to 520 high cut. If you want to listen to say LASD or LBPD they will be on that band.
And this is good for shtf too? Can it be modded to pick up all 3 bands? What kind of mods can I do to it? What bare minimum accs. do I need to buy with it?

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Question for you guys who have one: can you run the radio from external 12V using this cable or do you really need their battery eliminator? Or in other words, does the radio itself have a 2.1mm jack for 12V input? The diagram on pg. 6 of the manual doesn't mention one, but shows some kind of jack/connector/button below the mic input that isn't labeled in the diagram.
No, you either need the battery eliminator (the battery is 7.4v) or just run a 12v plug to the charging pocket and charge it that way. There is no jack on the side of the radio. That "jack" looking thing under the mic jack is actually a "swirly arrow" symbol where the cover attaches to the radio, to let you know you can rotate the dustcover out of the way.
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And this is good for shtf too? Can it be modded to pick up all 3 bands? What kind of mods can I do to it?
You cannot mod the radio to transmit on all 3 bandsplits, the PHYSICAL radio hardware cannot handle a range that wide (kind of like asking a Subwoofer to do the work of a Tweeter). You can enter the "whole range" in the mod software and it will take it, and looks like its going to do it, but it just wont give you useful transmit power out on the bands that is not made for.

That high cut UHF covers the most "useful" bands you can do the out of band mod which lets you program the following:

ON VHF:
"Weather" bands
"Marine" channels (Coast Guard/Boating)
MURS unlicensed radio service
"Commercial" VHF business service
"Public Safety" you can catch the CHP "extenders" that they use to transmit from their handhelds to their car repeater
And of course all the standard VHF Ham stuff

On UHF:
GMRS
FRS
"Commercial" UHF business service
"Public Safety" Most of the Police Departments in LA county are on this band
And of course all the standard UHF Ham stuff
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zenmastar,

As far as the "wobbler" thing, I was just trying to keep the subject shor, without going into the lengthy explanation that you did (good job by the way).

On the GMRS freaks hunting you down, LOL theyre not as bad as some of the Hamsters. At least the GMRS freaks have a more difficult time due to all the hardware sold & as widespread as it is, versus the Ham stuff which isnt available at every corner store.

I agree with you. If you use proper radio discipline, use the radio responsibly, and keep stuff short & to the point, I dont see anybody trying to hunt you down.

And as far as in an EMERGENCY, on radio use when SHTF, I'm using anything and everything that I need, when I need it; I'll deal with the flack or consequences later.

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PC,

I missed the last portion of your last question. The bare minimum you should get with the radios itself is:

Programming cable, Absolutely need.
"AA" Battery holder pack (just my opinion)
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No, you either need the battery eliminator (the battery is 7.4v) or just run a 12v plug to the charging pocket and charge it that way. There is no jack on the side of the radio. That "jack" looking thing under the mic jack is actually a "swirly arrow" symbol where the cover attaches to the radio, to let you know you can rotate the dustcover out of the way.
Thanks, then I'll add the battery eliminator to my list, snip the cable and install Powerpole connectors inline. That will let it meet my personal requirement that all emergency electronics must be able to run directly from 12V and connect via Powerpoles. I think I already have a 12V Powerpole cable that will plug into the charging pocket so I'm good there.
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Thanks, then I'll add the battery eliminator to my list, snip the cable and install Powerpole connectors inline. That will let it meet my personal requirement that all emergency electronics must be able to run directly from 12V and connect via Powerpoles. I think I already have a 12V Powerpole cable that will plug into the charging pocket so I'm good there.
Or just get or make a powerpole to cigarette lighter socket adapter, you never know when you need to plug into somebodys car that doesnt have a powerpole socket...

DUUUUUH, nevermind... I just re-read your post and missed the "install Powerpole connectors INLINE" comment...

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Nice review.
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Thanks for the help. On its way.......

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Radio check......... Anybody out there?

Which one do I buy?

136-174 & 216-280 (VHF & 220 MHz)
136-174 & 350-470 (VHF & low cut UHF)
136-174 & 420-520 (VHF & high cut UHF)
PC your question has a lot to do with your geographic location and what you want to accomplish. A VHF/UHF radio with wide band receive capabilities will allow you to listen to non trunked Public Safety Organizations and other Services. Without the use of repeaters the simplex use of an HT is limited at best. In my area only one repeater is available, that will not become ARES or RACES, in an emergency.

My own plan uses HT's for neighborhood simplex and scanning Public safety channels, none are trunked at this time, and using two fixed ELMER stations that can control our HT net.

Think of circles within circles. A good fixed station, that survives, will probably have all band/all mode radios. They will be able to communicate with the outside as well as help control a (NET) of local simplex HT's.

In radio size matters. The fixed station with a 100' tower is going to be able to hear the various HT's and pass traffic when the individual HT's may not be to hear each other.

As EmptySkull said this one would work the best for you.

136-174 & 420-520 (VHF & high cut UHF)

EmptySkull has his own repeaters, that the real ticket

The key to personal emergency communications in my opinion is to buddy up with an ELMER.
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Repeaters and portable repeaters are what I would prefer in a SHTF scenario. Not a real fan of sticking a body in front of a fixed station and using them as a "control" operator or "dispatcher". Id rather use that person as extra eyes and hands to fend off the Zombie hoardes, just sayin...
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I have several tactical repeaters set up and some base versions as well that I can setup in a pinch for both VHF/UHF comm if the need should ever come up, just for this reason!

Other thing that can work really well and doesn't require a full duplexer is a cross band repeater. VHF input frequency (best used on ham frequency's) with a higher power UHF output frequency with some gain. Works really well and very cheap to make as alot of dual band ham radio's have this option if they have dual receive. Have done this many times and it works awesome. Down side is that the users need to have a radio capable of transmitting VHF and listening to UHF, but most dual band mobile/portables can do this.
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I have some small "mobile" duplexers for my mobile repeater setups, however in a quick SHTF down and dirty drop and go setup, 2 antennas (even on the same band) work just fine... not ideal, but it works...
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I am aware of the antenna spacing option, but it can take some real estate depending on frequency and power. Really was just trying to pass something onto the DIYer on a budget, but this can also be used to to extend the range of a repeater in an emergency or linking several repeaters together in a homebrew fashion, or linking two communities together via a simplex frequency.

This is where races/vip programs can come in handy, trying out and experimenting with a group of people. One cool thing about the narrowbanding reg's coming down is that alot of organizations are getting rid of the wide band equipment which is perfect for HAM use, and even GMRS repeaters, all at really good prices too!
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Repeaters and portable repeaters are what I would prefer in a SHTF scenario. Not a real fan of sticking a body in front of a fixed station and using them as a "control" operator or "dispatcher". Id rather use that person as extra eyes and hands to fend off the Zombie hoardes, just sayin...
I don't think most of us have that kind of knowledge, to properly setup Repeaters. I assume they are solar/battery powered and at what elevation? The truth is to the average Tech Lic. or No Lic., that is way over their head. I am still trying to wrap my head around Remote Bases. Without an ELMER my HT is just a simplex short range unit and slow Public Safety scanner.

Most of the ELMERS in my area are too OLD to be of much use other than doing what they do by rote memory but they do it well.
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brushfire & Californio,

I hear you, actually I was trying to think up something for the budget & non technically inclined crowd as well... I have seen those "simplex" repeater modules and think that might work for a simple basecamp style setup for some folks, hell with the right cables they can work with most portables, even the GMRS/FRS stuff.

Incase some of you are wondering how a simplex repeater works: A standard repeater takes one frequency In and spits out on another (paired repeater channels). As for the "simplex" repeater, think of it like a parrot: it records and "repeats" what you said over the SAME CHANNEL. I think some of these that Ive seen have 30 second record capability. I know, some of you are cringing at the thought, believe me, Im not a fan of hearing myself speak...

And I know, somebody is out there scratching thier head going "why?". Because, say you put this "simplex" repeater up at a high elevation, lets say for example at Dodger stadium. With just 2 handhelds trying to talk to each other, Theres just no way youre going to talk directly from Downtown LA to Glendale, theres a hill in the way (Dodger Stadium). With the "simplex" repeater it can hear either one of the radios and "parrot" the message back to the other party. Like I've said before though, you will have to put up with hearing your conversation twice (once when you speak it, and again when the simplex repeater parrots it). There is an upside to these, you wont have to guess if what you said was what you really wanted to say, because youre gonna hear it again... lol

Actually thinking about it, these may be perfect for use with a handheld radio and a cheap solar panel as a "disposable" (dont care if you lose it or if it gets bearbanged) repeater. Or something to bury in the hills in a bugout cache... hmmm...

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