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Old 09-03-2010, 10:11 AM
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Default How much difference does muzzle brake makes?

To put on an AR-15 that is, I know they are already have very little recoil, but I was thinking of improve it further with faster and more accurate follow up shots, so how much differences does muzzle break really make, its worth it?
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Yes. Muzzle rise is what it reduces more than felt recoil though.

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They can make it even more non existant. You just have to figure out of the increased concussion and loudness is worth the recoil reduction of an already light recoiling firearm.

I use a Linear Levang comp on my 16" AR. Its designed to blow all the noise/blast forward make it seem quieter to the shooter and his/her buddies. I like it.

Also, 3-gunners are really into their brakes because they DO work. Any little increase in recoil reduction is good. It all depends on your purposes.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:17 AM
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good thing I am not in 3rd grade. And yes, I know what muzzle break does, I am asking does it reduce the recoil significantly.
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Muzzle BRAKE..........

No, they don't reduce much recoil. They DO keep the barrel in position, as do quality Compensators.
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I would work on improving my shooting position and more practice with the rifle than hitting it with parts. Some muzzle brakes can become expensive.
I run the basic A2 flash hider. My Vortex doesn't get shot as often as the regular old stuff.

Squaring up to the target, keeping a good cheekweld and shoulder contact into the rifle while shooting will make those follow-up shots quicker on target with less muzzle rise between shots.

When the skills are there, a new recoil brake could make a minor improvement. Seek out some quality instruction and you will see what other folks are running on their rifles; maybe even allowed to take a test drive of them to see what works for you.
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No it doesn't reduce recoil significantly, not that a 5.56mm AR has much recoil to begin with. And it's a muzzle brake, as in it puts the "brakes" on muzzle rise, not break.
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For fast follow-up shots, a compensator is the way to go. Note the barrel movement of non-compensated barrels vs. various compensators here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22829785/A...pensators-pt-2
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Thanks, exactly what I am looking for, going to change the title.
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I bought an inexpensive YHM muzzle brake from RifleGear and was very skeptical. But at the first trip to the range with my new brake, shooting while standing, a range officer came up to me and asked what kind of brake I had because from where he was standing, he couldn't see my barrel rise at all. It's right there that I realized how well my sight stayed on target with the brake compared to my old birdcage flash hider. I'm now a believer. I'm sure that an expensive brake will be better than the YHM but there's a significant difference between a standard A2 flash hider and even this inexpensive yet effective YHM brake. Thanks RG!
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Thanks, exactly what I am looking for, going to change the title.
Let me do it for you...

"Considering the inherent qualities of the recoil (or there lack of) of the 5.56, will the utilization of a muzzle brake make a significant difference?"

I kept it a little basic.
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Read my first post FOLLOW UP SHOTS, and yes I already acknowledge I am aware 5.56 has very little recoil within the first post.

So go back to the 4th grade, and learn how to read before you post.

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I have this one, It is freaking awesome for 17 bux.
http://www.m4store.net/index.php?p=product&id=244
We did a heads up with my buddy's AR. He has a birdcage on his and there was a very noticeable diff.
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I had a just thread protector and then put an RRA Brake on my AR. It's a featureless build so no flash suppressor. I didn't think much about it since the 5.56 has so little recoil, but the brake was cheap... However, I was watching my wife shoot it after I put the brake on and was surprised how flat the rifle stays during recoil. It makes a differance.
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They do help speed up follow-up shots

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I use a Linear Levang comp on my 16" AR. Its designed to blow all the noise/blast forward make it seem quieter to the shooter and his/her buddies. I like it.
Thumbs up for the Levang Linear Compensator, I've tried them all and it's my favorite. Works well and the price is right.
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But does it make it really loud? I did some google and it seems most people are not happy with the guy shooting this AR with compensator on the range.

Is there a compensator what reduces recoil while at same time make it less annoying.
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Sorry I didn't read any other replies, but they aren't made to reduce recoil significantly, rather muzzle jump. So adding a quality made/designed brake will improve your follow up shots enough to make adding one well worth it.
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I heard they sell loudeners for guys like the OP. :P

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My MB is very loud, anyone standing next to me isn't liking it. My follow-up shots are very fast.

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a muzzle brake only breaks the fire bal, it doesn't reduce recoil. some do but not all. I think you meant compensator. if it's that then it does help. single shots you won't tell the difference but fast shooting you can tell.
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a muzzle brake only breaks the fire bal, it doesn't reduce recoil. some do but not all. I think you meant compensator. if it's that then it does help. single shots you won't tell the difference but fast shooting you can tell.
????? All of my muzzle brakes significantly reduce preceived recoil.
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then there's no need for compensators right?
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then there's no need for compensators right?
They are a different animal. Comps tend to push the muzzle down while MBs tend to pull the firearm forward. Yea, I over simplified it but, that's pretty close.
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Makes the rifle very 'blasty'...very annoying for anyone near you when you light it off.
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Great thanks, very good infos
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For fast follow-up shots, a compensator is the way to go. Note the barrel movement of non-compensated barrels vs. various compensators here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22829785/A...pensators-pt-2
wow Arreddondo and few others barely move. that is a real interesting comparison there.

But they can/do make the muzzle blast a ***** though for people shooting near you.
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Folks who moan and whine at the range about people shooting with brakes all have options to move away from that shooting position.

Just my opinion...and worth exactly what you paid for it.

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I try to warn the shooters nect to me 'cause my brakes can and have blown over guns on the benches next to me. I also find it funny that most people try not to stand dirrectly behind a gun with a brake. Instead they somehow end up stading to the side and dirrectly in line with the redirrected gasses.
I was at Metcalf one say and this dude comes up in a wheel chair and the range master is carrying a ski bag. Ok so they whip out a M82 fricken Barret 50 Cal.
They get it set up and he lit that first shot, my hat blew off. I was kinda off at 4-5 o clock behind him and after that I was at his 6. You could feel it but not like that punch I got from the direct shot off the brake.
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I just got my ar-15 and also the 5.5" CAR muzzle brake from Bushmaster. I originally bought it because I wanted to change the look of my Sig 522. Now I'm not sure where I want to put it...
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Yes. Muzzle rise is what it reduces more than felt recoil though.

BTW, the topic title makes 3rd grade teachers cry.
The teacher is still crying:

How much difference does muzzle brake makes?

It should be:

How much difference does a muzzle brake make?

How the hell can you put "makes" in the question?
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The teacher is still crying:

How much difference does muzzle brake makes?

It should be:

How much difference does a muzzle brake make?

How the hell can you put "makes" in the question?
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Read my first post FOLLOW UP SHOTS, and yes I already acknowledged I am aware that 5.56 has very little recoil within the first post.

So go back to the 4th grade, and learn how to read before you post.
There I fixed it for you

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