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Old 07-17-2018, 4:42 PM
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Default AR 15, Cal Stock Prone Problem

I tried to fire my Cal legal AR 15 from the prone position. It was a failure. It was set up to fire standing or kneeling but I never though of prone. With the pinned stock, it was much too short. The optic practically hit me in the mouth. OK, the optic can be moved but with the stock in the shortest position, this will never work for prone. Sure, I could unpin it and reassemble it. But is there another way?

Does someone make a separate attachment, like a butt pad but longer, which can just be slid over the stock and thereby lengthening it for prone?

Does anyone have another solution?
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Old 07-17-2018, 5:00 PM
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A2 stock and move the optic forward. There are adjustable stocks that are as long or longer than an A2 stock so you could use one of those.
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I tried to fire my Cal legal AR 15 from the prone position. It was a failure. It was set up to fire standing or kneeling but I never though of prone. With the pinned stock, it was much too short. The optic practically hit me in the mouth. OK, the optic can be moved but with the stock in the shortest position, this will never work for prone. Sure, I could unpin it and reassemble it. But is there another way?

Does someone make a separate attachment, like a butt pad but longer, which can just be slid over the stock and thereby lengthening it for prone?

Does anyone have another solution?
Magpul has spacers for their stocks.
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Old 07-17-2018, 7:13 PM
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Respectfully I think fully collapsed is a stupid LOP unless a kid is shooting. I wouldn't set my stock there. However depending on what stock your using you could pin it with a cap screw making it fixed but retain adjusting it with a tool if you want. I did this to my MFT and Magpul.
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Old 07-17-2018, 7:33 PM
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I tried to fire my Cal legal AR 15 from the prone position. It was a failure. It was set up to fire standing or kneeling but I never though of prone. With the pinned stock, it was much too short. The optic practically hit me in the mouth. OK, the optic can be moved but with the stock in the shortest position, this will never work for prone. Sure, I could unpin it and reassemble it. But is there another way?

Does someone make a separate attachment, like a butt pad but longer, which can just be slid over the stock and thereby lengthening it for prone?

Does anyone have another solution?
Is shooting your 556 with some level of basic foundation skills an option?
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Well I’ve always figured if I’m lying down during a gunfight I’m probably already out or pissing myself or both - why did you pin it so short to begin with?

I’d say it’s time to buy a new stock
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Is shooting your 556 with some level of basic foundation skills an option?
Is reading English on a basic level and option for you?
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Well Iíve always figured if Iím lying down during a gunfight Iím probably already out or pissing myself or both - why did you pin it so short to begin with?

Iíd say itís time to buy a new stock
My reasons for stock length are well founded so I don't want to begin "defending" as spurious issue.

Would a new stock shorten and lengthen legally?
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Is reading English on a basic level and option for you?
lol well past that, obviously. Hopefully you can figure out how to shoot a small caliber firearm without the optic smacking your mouth.
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My reasons for stock length are well founded so I don't want to begin "defending" as spurious issue.

Would a new stock shorten and lengthen legally?
English, please?
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Thanks for all your help AreWeFree. I found the perfect solution.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...omposite-black
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My reasons for stock length are well founded so I don't want to begin "defending" as spurious issue.

Would a new stock shorten and lengthen legally?
If you go with a fixed magazine configuration, you can have a collapsible stock.
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It's all fun and games until he kneels or stands up to shoot and then the LOP is too long XD
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It's all fun and games until he kneels or stands up to shoot and then the LOP is too long XD
All he has to do is remove his body armor or go to his local walmart.
Hundreds of thousands of marines manage to shoot an A2 stock standing, kneeling, sitting and prone.
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If that stock extension you found does not work out, there are slip on pads available to fit collapsible stocks, depending on what your using:
https://www.amazon.com/LimbSaver-Rec.../dp/B00Z6JOXQC

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...d-rubber-black
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Fixed mag would be a good solution for you OP. You can retain your collapsible stock and adjust as needed.
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That won't fit a collapsible stock.

You will need to find a spacer unique to the stock manufacturer. They are all different.
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Am I understanding correctly that the adjustable stock is pinned in the shortest position?

And the problem is that the stock is too short?

Hmmm... How about repinning the stock in a longer position?
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Respectfully, unless you have some type of physical disability that makes it so you need the stock that short, extend it and learn to shoot with the longer LOP.

Proper body position should take care of it being too short while standing. Or leave it 1-2 notches in from all the way out if you really need it shorter.

If you have it short to help keep the weight close(ie you have a hard time supporting the nose of the gun), maybe try a sling. I feel like slings are overlooked these days. I have one on my A1/A2 bastard clone and it makes handling the rifle a breeze, once you get the sling wrapped right.
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