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.455 Webley handloads
I finally got the time to load up some Webley ammo after collecting the dies and stuff I needed.
I am using Starline brass (MkII length), CCI LP primers, Missouri Bullet Co 262gr .455 Webley HiTek coated cast lead projectiles, and trying 3.5 to 3.7 grains of Trail Boss to start. These bullets and brass are relatively new in the Webley world so there is not a lot of info on using them. But I will say it is very nice to be able to get new brass and proper ready-made projectiles for this old warhorse. I am using a very slight roll crimp in the groove, which works out to about 1.18" COL. I am not sure how much more of the Trailboss will fit with this setup - the case under the projectile is nearly full if not full at 3.7 grains. Now I need to get out with the chrono and see what sort of power they are making. I am looking to stay as close to 600fps as I can. Last edited by SkyHawk; 08-26-2021 at 10:28 AM.. |
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Nice - on my perpetual "looking to buy" list.
I found 265 grain Webley style bullets and rest of supplies at Buffalo Arms - mostly out of stock now. I have a 1919 made S&W HE 2nd model that made it only as far as St Louis, not England. No issues using the shorter case but on the .890" length those flimsy case rims keep getting ripped off, even though I use the recommended shell holder. Which are you using? I'd say a strong 600 fps is about right.
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These Starline cases are .763 long. I am using a Lee 3-die kit for the Webley, which uses 45LC parts mostly but I think the bullet seater/crimp is marked 45 and 455. I think the shellholder is also the same as the 45LC, I would have to get out my 45LC die kit to confirm.
I am using them in the Lee handheld press. What brass are you using and which die is ripping them? Last edited by SkyHawk; 08-26-2021 at 11:17 AM.. |
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I have a few hundred MkII cases and under 100 of the 455 Colt longer cases. So not a big problem, not like the gun is a target piece and the shorter jump hurts accuracy. Just darn annoying.
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I would like to experiment with Mk1 length modified 45LC cases someday, so hopefully you can crack the code so I don't have to learn some new swear words |
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https://www.historynet.com/webley-sc...-of-choice.htm Quote:
https://general-cartridge.com/2020/0...allistics-gel/ The modern Fiocchi ammo runs the 262gr at 650fps per their claims, but I think several reviewers say it is slower on their chrono at 550fps from a 6" barrel https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...ound-nose-ammo Grafs loads and sells some Webley ammo with this same bullet and case, one reviewer reported 606fps on their chrono https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...eviews-heading Buffalo Arms has a load that runs a 230gr at 650fps. You can get away with more speed from the lighter projectiles. https://www.buffaloarms.com/455-webl...mo455auto.html I'm trying to take it easy on the old gal with these hefty 262gr projectiles, but I may run her up to 625fps if there is any accuracy to be gained by doing it. That will be as far as I want to go with mine though. Last edited by SkyHawk; 08-28-2021 at 8:28 AM.. |
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thank you for posting this. I haven't gotten around to shooting my webley fosbery yet, but your post is inspiration to work up some light loads just to try it out. I'll probably start very low and ramp up so that it is just enough to cycle the mechanism.
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I've loaded 4 gr of Unique and gotten good results but not endorsing said load. |
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That is something I will also be looking for as I test the lightest loads - I will probably load one round at a time and check the bore (or the target if I hit it ) after every shot
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