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Old 04-05-2012, 9:23 PM
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I dry fired a .357 R8 and Mr. Sales guy asked if I could please not dry fire it.

Every other place I walk into allows a couple dry fires of centerfire pistols. Is it not one of the things you should try when looking to buy?
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Old 04-05-2012, 9:44 PM
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When ever you want to dry fire a gun just be nice and ask if you can.. or ask for a snap cap just to be on the safe side
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Some places are babys about this. Next time ask for a snap cap, and if they say no or no to dry firing, take your business elsewhere.
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I always ask before dry firing. It's their gun, they can dictate how it's handled. The trigger on a Performance Center Smith & Wesson is gonna be sweet, anyway.
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I don't think its that big of an issue with newer revolvers but with the older ones that have the firing pin built into the hammer it's a no no. It could cause damage to the firing pin/hammer as you have metal on metal slamming into each other. On the newer revolvers the firing pin is not built into the hammer and is spring loaded, this spring loaded firing pin takes the brunt of the hammer coming down and it's not that big of a deal.
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Maybe worried about visible turn ring? Some customers are picky
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Maybe worried about visible turn ring? Some customers are picky
ahhh. I googled turn ring and I can understand this. Im not that picky but I can imagine how picky someone could be about something like that.

I don't own a revolver yet. The R8 felt really nice in my hands though.

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I don't think its that big of an issue with newer revolvers but with the older ones that have the firing pin built into the hammer it's a no no. It could cause damage to the firing pin/hammer as you have metal on metal slamming into each other. On the newer revolvers the firing pin is not built into the hammer and is spring loaded, this spring loaded firing pin takes the brunt of the hammer coming down and it's not that big of a deal.
This is simply not true. Whether the firing pin is hammer or frame mounted there is no risk of it striking the cylinder wall and causing damage. If it is centerfire the pin strikes in the center of the chamber, it is not long enough to contact anything.
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Simply put, regardless of whether or not it will damage the gun, you should ALWAYS ask before dry-firing any gun that does not currently belong to you. Personally I like to dry fire everything I am considering buying, but I ask first, and if/when they say no dry firing, I hand them a gun and apologize for wasting their time and move on to the next store.

On a side note, my GF and I were at a LGS in Temecula and the sales girl behind the counter was really nice about letting her dry fire the guns, as my GF has weaker hands, and we have been trying to find a decent self/home defense gun for her, and she prefers to use a wheel-gun over my semi-autos.
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It's kind of like looking at a car someone is selling and just doing a burnout right there in the parking lot without committing to buy it.

It's generally known as a common courtesy that you don't dry fire guns in gun shops unless you've already bought the gun. Personally, I'd be pretty angry if people just started dry firing guns I'm trying to sell, especially if they didn't ask first.
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It's kind of like looking at a car someone is selling and just doing a burnout right there in the parking lot without committing to buy it.

It's generally known as a common courtesy that you don't dry fire guns in gun shops unless you've already bought the gun. Personally, I'd be pretty angry if people just started dry firing guns I'm trying to sell, especially if they didn't ask first.
This.

That being said, I'll dry-fire if the salesman does it as well as encourage me to do so.
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I always ask before dry firing a gun that is not mine. There is very little chance of damaging a revolver but the cylinder stop will leave a drag line (turn ring) on the cylinder. It is barely possible to break the firing pin on some guns but, frankly, I'd consider that evidence of poor quality on a new gun.

Once, many moons ago, I was a guest of a fellow who had a very nice collection of revolvers. One he was particularly proud of was a Colt Python that had never been fired. Absolutely beautiful piece of workmanship. He handed it to me and, without thinking, I opened the cylinder to check if it was loaded. He immediately grabbed the gun and carefully closed the cylinder to even avoid even a hint of a drag line. So, yeah, some people can be picky about it.

Nevertheless, a gun store is in the business of selling guns and I buy a gun to shoot, not to look at. I want to be sure it is a good starting point and the feel of the trigger is an important part of a gun's overall action. If they aren't willing to let me dry fire it a few time to get a hint of the DA/SA trigger and the reset, I'm going to wonder what's wrong with it.
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Old 04-06-2012, 6:19 AM
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I never bother with dry firing a gun at a shop. What does it accomplish? You want to see how the trigger feels? Why, if its not to your liking you're not going to buy the gun? I personally don't care because if its lousy I'll fix it. If the gun doesn't function all fix it or take it back.

Performance Center triggers are nothing special. Until you've pulled the trigger on a competition job by somone who knows how to do it, you have no clue how good a revolver trigger can be.
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Some places are babys about this. Next time ask for a snap cap, and if they say no or no to dry firing, take your business elsewhere.
Considering a lot of shops deal with customers who nitpick ANY damage to a gun they are buying i can see why they say no to dry firing. It's not about being a baby. They are trying to sell that gun and any damage that is caused by mishandling weather its a scratch or a ring on the firing pin, turn marks on a cylinder or possible broken part means they will end up discounting it to make a sale.

Now imagine YOU have a gun on consignment and some yahoo comes in and dry fires YOUR gun and breaks something. He simply says ooops I'm not buying that unless you do a DEEP discount or he walks out with a hey not my fault. Now you have a broken gun which you either discount the crap out of it or have to pay to get repaired.

I can absolutely see why they would be babies about it.

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ya ask for snap caps. makes life easier
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This is simply not true. Whether the firing pin is hammer or frame mounted there is no risk of it striking the cylinder wall and causing damage. If it is centerfire the pin strikes in the center of the chamber, it is not long enough to contact anything.

My concern would not be the firing pin striking anything but the hammer itself hitting full force metal on metal with the gun itself.
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It's polite to ask but only really matters in two instances that I know of:

1. Rimfires. Not all rimfire revolvers have a firing pin stop so the firing pin may be free to bash into the edge of the chamber.

2. Cap and Ball Revolvers. Dry firing these will mash the nipples and, after not too much of that, they'll need to be replaced.
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I always ask before I dry fire a gun and I never use the slide release to drop the slide on anyone's gun but my own. I had a guy do that to my Sig at ASR on an empty chamber and though I didn't show it or let him know about it, I was going ballistic inside.
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Like others have mentioned, it's common courtesy to ask for permission before you dry fire their gun. Even though I dry fire my guns all the time, I still appreciate it when other people ask me for permission before they do it.
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Mr. Sales guy asked if I could please not dry fire it.
He said please. Impressive.
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It's kind of like looking at a car someone is selling and just doing a burnout right there in the parking lot without committing to buy it.

It's generally known as a common courtesy that you don't dry fire guns in gun shops unless you've already bought the gun. Personally, I'd be pretty angry if people just started dry firing guns I'm trying to sell, especially if they didn't ask first.
So next time when i go test drive a car I wont just do a huge burn out...ill ask first.
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My concern would not be the firing pin striking anything but the hammer itself hitting full force metal on metal with the gun itself.
It does all the time.

On S&W guns the firing pin hitting the case does not stop the hammer, the frame stops the hammer for both hammer mouted pins and floating pins.

With floating pin gun you can increase how much the pin protrudes by filling the contact surface on the hammer.
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He said please. Impressive.
Yeah it wasn't a big deal. He said please I said okay and asked if it was store policy and he replied "no dry firing of revolvers or rimfires". I get it.
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Some people don't like to buy a new revolver that has a turn line on the cylinder. If you dry fire it, you are creating a turn line.

Always ask first.

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Always ask and never drop the slide. Those are my rules but the main reason I am typing is to have a few sentence rant. There's a shop I go to every once in a while that I have asked twice to dry fire a pistol on two separate occasions within about two weeks. The worker first groaned, said fine and then reminded me of the last time I had been dry fired out of their pistol. The pistols were a Beretta 92 and an M&P which of course dry firing doesn't hurt them whatsoever. So I would have more respect if it wasn't for the groan butttt what really pissed me off is the few pistols I looked at he dropped the slide with full force after I handed the guns back to him open and said that's fine. I left and bought my Beretta at another store. I stick to buying small stuff like cleaning brushes from them if I go at all because everything is outrageously priced and only a few times have I seen a good price on some used stuff.

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