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View Poll Results: How would you prefer the Marketplace forums to be laid out
'Original Recipe', all in one big forum 185 10.94%
Split by firearm type (Handgun/Long gun) 585 34.59%
Split by location, geographic line 627 37.08%
Split by location, seller based determination 294 17.39%
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Old 08-21-2013, 3:02 PM
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As much as I like the idea of splitting the Marketplace I'm not sure I'm happy with the Long Gun/Handgun split.
There are several threads that have both a handgun and a long gun, what happens to them and do we make/allow multiple threads per user one in each forum?

I need to think about this a bit, as difficult as it is I think a North/South split might be better in the long run.

I can see it working one of two ways:
A stated line, if you're above Fresno it's Nor cal, below Fresno it's So Cal.
Or a seller based option, if you consider where you live So Cal post it in that forum, same for Nor Cal Calgunners.

I'm going to discuss this with the Mods but in addition to that I want to see what the people who use the marketplace prefer.
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Old 08-21-2013, 3:18 PM
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I think a type of firearm split is more user friendly. Yes, users will post in each section if they have a long gun and a pistol for sale. Just like now, posting accessories and the firearm in separate sections with multiple threads.
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NorCal/SoCal split would be preferred.
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I agree a regional split makes sense. Most sellers these days don't want to ship.
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Old 08-21-2013, 4:08 PM
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Yeah, the log gun/handgun split is nice but with most people posting multiple firearms it dose not make sense to kill space with the two while if you split it geographical/seller choice(might be out of town for the month.) you make it a hole lot easier for the end user to figure out weather he is in a location that even allows for the meet. After all how many times have we all seen the infamous "location?" bump.lol
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I had a pistol listing that ended up in long-guns. I had to migrate it myself.
Long gun /short gun split is OK. people still do not put North or South in their post heading though. cant have everything or there would be 50 forums
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Old 08-21-2013, 4:39 PM
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Geographic split makes a LOT of sense, since anything more than 100 miles away from a buyer is pretty much a deal breaker since it takes two trips to buy the gun/take possession of it.
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Option 3 is for me.
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I'm torn, I like the long gun/handgun split, but it's true that many sellers don't want to ship.

Then again, it's also kind of nice to just see everything in one forum too...
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Geographic split makes a LOT of sense, since anything more than 100 miles away from a buyer is pretty much a deal breaker since it takes two trips to buy the gun/take possession of it.
I agree, but it needs to be limited to major metro areas, like how Craigslist is set up. I wouldn't travel half the state to make a deal happen.
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It really needs to be split up into only two categories, What CSA is going to buy and everything else. I'm just tired of looking through adds for items I don't want and this would help me to stop wasting time.

BTW, I've driven to the Bay Area and Sac. to buy items and even to deliver them so, I don't like the idea of a geographic split at all. In fact, I tend to drive 6-8 hours North far more often than 2 hours South. Since I'm usually just looking for a deal, I'd rather not have to look too many places for it. I say, leave it in one big forum.
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I like the split between handguns and long guns. Just as we do now, allow one active "for sale" thread in each section.

As for location, are there any vbulletin mods that would require the poster to specify location before being able to create a new thread?

-edit- Here's an idea... if you can make the "post icons" required (these are the icons that show up to the left of the thread title), you can edit the icon images to represent different sections of CA. (Make them images that say "norcal", "socal", "central", etc.)

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Old 08-21-2013, 5:01 PM
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I voted for the long gun/hand gun split. The more I think about it the north/south split is probably better. I have found many guns I would have jumped on but they end up being to far to meet.
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Old 08-21-2013, 5:26 PM
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IMHO leave it one big forum or hg/lg split. My reasoning is this, sometimes when I'm looking for something, I come across something else I want that I wasn't looking for and end up buying that. This happened when I was looking for my next glock, I found the perfect deal on my xds.

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It's like accidental advertising. Also, if we enforce "location" somehow that would solve that question. Or maybe make "location in heading" mandatory.
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Old 08-21-2013, 6:03 PM
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I think there is a large enough market to see a rimfire only split. Allow a user to have one thread in each rimfire and centerfire.

North vs South CA is tough but possible (many travel both or live in middle, will ship, etc.).
but I see the handgun vs long gun working as long as users can post in each. It is more work for those browsing to buy.

I do think that rimfire vs centerfire is a cleaner line to split the forums with.

Previous poster referenced location. While location in title is visible, a drop down catergory for "region" within the same forum would be extremely valuable for searching or browsing. Simply require each sale thread to pick from a predetermined choice of region.

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I say we should do it by caliber

In seriousness I like the long gun/handgun split. I feel like alot of people are browsing to buy. While a region split would be cool, it does not make to much sense. For example some one living in San Diego is going to have to make approx hour drive for someone in fresno. I have always wanted the split between long gun/handgun though. So I am bias to it.
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I like the Long Gun/Handgun split.

As long as the seller remembers to put the Location into the add, like the rules state.
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I think the N. Cal./S. Cal split would work since most people prefer not to ship. It's irritating to see a firearm you're interested in only to click the link to find out its down south and they won't ship.
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I voted for geographical split. I will no longer have to yearn for a good deal in Socal

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Old 08-21-2013, 7:24 PM
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I am typically looking for the right thing. It is kind of I'll know it when I see it. and want to see both long guns and handguns in the same section. Would much rather see a geographic split since I am only going to do a FTF transfer and guns for sale in southern California are pretty much off limits to me.
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If the buyer is willing to ship what does geographic location mean?
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After using the pistol and long gun split, I don't like it, especially when someone is selling both.

I have been a fan of the NorCal and SoCal split for awhile now and it makes better sense, then sellers can lump all they want to sell according to region. I also hate getting psyched out when I think I found one I want and then discover its up north, AwShucks.

Go with the north and south division and never look back, at least give it a try and change it if for reasons it doesn't work out. Thanks for the consideration and trying something new.
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I like the NorCal/SoCal split.
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If the buyer is willing to ship what does geographic location mean?
Lets face it, shipping a firearms is the least likely option or occurrence I think, although it happens, it's an expense that usually makes it a bad deal.
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I like the split of long guns-handguns. I for one have no interest in rifles. It would be better if the ad required location, as I always do a sort on Fresno. Thanks for the change.
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So I've been using marketplace for my long gun purchases (pre 2014 stock up) and always scan everything for some kind of deal. When location is listed in heading (close to me, northern ca) I always look.
I'd like to see location in heading (if they won't ship) but what really annoys me is multiple gun listings. One will sell and I still have to scroll through the thread to see which one is gone. Usually the one I want. Seems fine with accessories and parts but each firearm should have its own posting.
I do like seeing what's available down south. Kind of keeps things in perspective. Plus, if its that awesome, road trip!
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I checked it out today. I like the new split handgun/ long gun. Weeding out the locations is not bad. I like to compare prices between north and south.
If it was split up more, there would be only 1 or 2 pages. And no need to bump a post.
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I like the split , but I've noticed there are still a lot of handguns listed on the long gun layout . If I have to check out both of them anyway I would rather have them in one. Hopefully everyone will learn to list the proper item in the proper marketplace.
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thumbs up on the split...
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Regional.
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bothe handgun longgun and geographical.
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Hey, Kes. I'm liking the new handgun / long gun split, but I can see the dilemma where someone has both types of guns in their ad. Which forum do they put their ad in? I know one of the Marketplace rules is to consolidate all of a person's sales into one ad to keep the clutter down. But if you stick with the handgun / long gun split, how about amending that rule to allow a person to post a separate ad in each forum if he/she has both a handgun and a long gun to sell?
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I actually like it split by long gun/hand gun. It makes it much easier. I would support requiring the location (city/county) in the title.

CA is just too damned big to have it split NorCal and SoCal. Somebody in Sacramento is a 7 hour drive from Eureka, but they're both NorCal. Just either split it long gun/hand gun and require a location in the title or put it back he old way and require a location.
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I would say it is a numbers game that should not be hard to define. Number of handguns vs rifle ads, numbers of north verse south which works out best for CalGuns on their data used?

Personally for me I want to know about 1911's sold state wide. I keep a database of guns that interest me throughout the state. As CSA said I will drive hours if I want it twice, so north or south is not a deal breaker.

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I like long gun / hand gun. Location should be REQUIRED in the title though.
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Long gun / hand gun is OK, however all in one works as well. I do think regional is a great idea as well. I would suggest as North, Central and South, with the North extending from the Oregon border to Santa Rosa , the Central extending to Fresno.
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Handgun long gun split only.

Don't split it north south as some buyers DO ship an I don't want to miss a great deal because I have to look in 4 forums!
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Gosh darnit! Personally, I do not want a geographical split. Why? People travel, people ship. Even people that don't want to ship may do so eventually.

Rather than split the forum, REQUIRE that location be stated in the thread title.

Sorry Kes, but I do not like the new format of the 2A and Firearm Sales forums. What I could once browse in two forums now takes me five. This will lead to me skipping forums and ultimately missing topics / ads that I would have previously read.
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While I prefer the NCal/SCal split, I really like the idea of location in the title thread.

“NCal: WTS Ruger mini 14 & SA XDS stainless” or even “NC: WTS SMolt 686 stainless”

At the end of the day, i’ll be browsing both () and may be willing to drive down south for a gun or two, but most often than not, i’ll be up here in NCal.

Let me know if you need help keeping the subject lines divided Kes
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Location required in title.... that's it. The geographic split is only a partial fix and creates new issues. Some will live near the split. Others will live in the far north or south aren't helped much.
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