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Old 12-13-2017, 7:52 AM
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Drop another vote from the senate election last night. Now they only have 51 left.
You might be right, but if Jones votes against CCR he will not be in that Alabama Senate seat long, and I'm sure he knows that.

I like the Fix NICS attachment because it gives Senators like Jones a reason other than CCR to vote ye on this bill.
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Old 12-13-2017, 8:35 AM
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You might be right, but if Jones votes against CCR he will not be in that Alabama Senate seat long, and I'm sure he knows that.

I like the Fix NICS attachment because it gives Senators like Jones a reason other than CCR to vote ye on this bill.
I agree, especially given the fact that Alabama already recognizes permits from all states except Vermont so it's passage would have no material effect in Alabama other than deny those in Alabama with permits the right to carry where their permits are not presently recognized.

On the other hand, maybe he already knows that he will not be re-elected regardless of how he votes.

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Old 12-14-2017, 4:41 PM
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You might be right, but if Jones votes against CCR he will not be in that Alabama Senate seat long, and I'm sure he knows that.
The concern is he knows that no matter what he won't be in the Senate for long. A politician with no future can be a dangerous thing - or a good thing, depending on where one sits.
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Old 12-21-2017, 9:50 AM
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The concern is he knows that no matter what he won't be in the Senate for long. A politician with no future can be a dangerous thing - or a good thing, depending on where one sits.
very true. good point.
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Old 12-26-2017, 9:34 AM
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Non Resident NEED's to be added.

Blue states will punish their citizens by no longer granting CCW, this is a given. Also financially, some states expiration is 5 years at 1/4 of the cost. This would force California into revising their policies in order to instead take that revenue.
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...enate-bill/446

Hearings on this bill have begun in the Senate Judiciary Cmte

"Bottom line" refresher: this Senate nat'l recip bill will NOT allow CAians CCW in CA with a non-CA CCW. But it will help us in that it will allow MILLIONS of out-of-state CCWers (and ConCarriers) to CC in CA every year when they vacation, business trip, visit friends & family in CA (in add'n to ~100k CAians who have CA CCWs). That will negate anti sheriffs contention that they restrict CCWs to "keep guns off of our streets." That eventually may make them and Sacto politicos to stop opposing Shall Issue.

But until then, if it becomes law, it will give CA BGs "a reason to fear" middle aged, overweight white guys wearing Panama hats, Hawaiian shirts and shorts with sandals, with cameras hanging around their necks and "hip packs" .... (Or the same wearing a "photographer's vest.")
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...enate-bill/446

Hearings on this bill have begun in the Senate Judiciary Cmte

"Bottom line" refresher: this Senate nat'l recip bill will NOT allow CAians CCW in CA with a non-CA CCW. But it will help us in that it will allow MILLIONS of out-of-state CCWers (and ConCarriers) to CC in CA every year when they vacation, business trip, visit friends & family in CA (in add'n to ~100k CAians who have CA CCWs). That will negate anti sheriffs contention that they restrict CCWs to "keep guns off of our streets." That eventually may make them and Sacto politicos to stop opposing Shall Issue.

But until then, it will give CA BGs "a reason to fear" middle aged, overweight white guys wearing Panama hats, Hawaiian shirts and shorts with sandals, with cameras hanging around their necks and "hip packs" .... (Or the same wearing a "photographer's vest.")
I expect California will respond by making more and more places no carry zones, possibly making a tiered system of licensing, and harassing out of state people who carry here. And the 9th circuit will rule none of it violates the 2nd.

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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...enate-bill/446

Hearings on this bill have begun in the Senate Judiciary Cmte

"Bottom line" refresher: this Senate nat'l recip bill will NOT allow CAians CCW in CA with a non-CA CCW. But it will help us in that it will allow MILLIONS of out-of-state CCWers (and ConCarriers) to CC in CA every year when they vacation, business trip, visit friends & family in CA (in add'n to ~100k CAians who have CA CCWs). That will negate anti sheriffs contention that they restrict CCWs to "keep guns off of our streets." That eventually may make them and Sacto politicos to stop opposing Shall Issue.

But until then, if it becomes law, it will give CA BGs "a reason to fear" middle aged, overweight white guys wearing Panama hats, Hawaiian shirts and shorts with sandals, with cameras hanging around their necks and "hip packs" .... (Or the same wearing a "photographer's vest.")
Hi Paladin,
Thanks for keeping us updated. Does this version still have the legal fee provisions?

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