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Old 07-20-2018, 3:53 PM
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Hello Calgunners,

I could use some recommendations for a particular kind of pocket pistol. I'm looking for something light enough to ride in sweat pants without pulling down on them too much.

Caliber doesn't matter that much to me, but I do prefer smaller calibers for smaller guns, and strongly prefer commonly available calibers. I'm a firm believer that the ability to practice often trumps any other consideration about caliber (so cost and comfort are big factors to me).

I've already looked at the P238, but it's 15 oz unloaded, so with a loaded magazine it'd be pretty heavy.

I haven't had a chance to try the Kahr P380 yet, but on paper it's very compact and light. Although some people claim Kahrs are unreliable.

The LCR and M&P 340 are strong contenders as well. I always hear about problems with compact semis but not very much about compact revolvers.

I've looked at the NAA Mini Revolver as well but it seems like such a pain to load and unload that I would end up not practicing a whole lot with it. The Sidewinder looks interesting but in California we can only get the 4" model and that makes it too long for the pocket.

Am I missing anything? Anyone have any other recommendations?
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The ruger lcps are great little guns. I own a kahr p380. It took a bit to break in and can be picky about ammo but once you figure that out they are reliable. I think the rugers are a bit better in that area though.
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Old 07-20-2018, 3:59 PM
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An S&W Model 317 Kit Gun (.22LR, 8-shot) weighs only 11.7 oz. That is about as light as you can get in anything worth carrying.

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Ruger LCP. I absolutely love mine. Shoots well, 100% reliable, light and tiny. It packs the same firepower as a Glock 42 in the size of a Kel-tec P32.
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Tighten up your draw string and get a Glock 19. That gun does everything. It is perfection. Just wanted to say this so the Glock guys will like me
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Beretta Pico if you can find it in KA.

Kahr p380 is a hit and miss gun. My PM9 is flawless so far.
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Kahr .380 is only like a half a pound fully loaded.
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I have a Glock 42 which is very small and light.

I can easily carry it in sweat shorts or a swim suit pocket with a sticky holster.




Wife has a KAHR P380 which she has never had issues with and it's also small and easy to carry. If she can carry it in her bra you can carry it in your sweats.
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I carry a S&W 442 in my boardshort pockets with no issues. Tighten your drawer strings.
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You have a tall order with those parameters.

I carry a J-frame Ti AirLite 38+P at 10.4oz always forget I have it because it's so light.

But cost is hi, so really your going to be looking to something heavier IMO, you don't have many choices, specially in Ca.

Try a belt & holster, you can carry a heavier gun that way.

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Didn’t kel tec make a pistol that was only 7 or 8 .oz? Maybe look into that and see if someone has one for sale.
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My ‘carry anywhere in my boxers’ gun is my Charter Undercover Lite with a DAO hammer and a Barami hip-grip - it’s also loaded with Ruger ARX .38 Special 77 gr rounds. Basically it’s like 11 oz loaded and doesn’t need a holster.
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S&W 340 PD
11.8 oz
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351PD. 11.2 oz; not much more fully loaded with 7 rounds of 22 magnum.
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Mine is a Ruger LCP.
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I like and carry Kel Tec P32 .32 ACP, mine is reliable with standard 7 round magazines, does not like extended mags. Weight 6.6 ounces,

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LCR, 442
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Don’t get a .22lr. I have trouble with ground squirrels walking it off when shot by one.
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Ruger LCP or LCPII is what you want. Only available through PPT unless exempt. 12-13oz loaded. If the regular LCP or LCP Custom, add a Hogue Handall grip, stainless steel guide rod and 13lb spring (all to tame the recoil). Can also accept CrimsonTrace and Lasermax lasers, if desired. Load it with Underwood Xtreme Penetrators or Xtreme Defenders, put it in a Sticky Holster or DeSantis Superfly in your pocket and you’re good to go. Ruger has a good customer service rep as well. WARNING——It may make you so lazy that it becomes your full time EDC.

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The LCP II is a lot better than the LCP.
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I love my LCP; carry it in a DeSantis Nemesis holster w/ a spare mag.
I'll occasionally carry my S&W 442 but most often the LCP.
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Ruger LCP, SIG P938 or Kahr CW9/PM9
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I had a Kahr P380 and Ruger LCP, both were 100% reliable, Ruger was lighter, thinner, smoother , meaning nothing to snag as you pull it out and I shot much better with the LCP so I sold the P380, I've also owned a Keltec PF9, it was great, very thin, but still a bit larger than I wanted, and I also carry a Kahr PM9, but the LCP for pocket carry is the best for me.
Oh and I also have a S&W 442 and a Ruger LCRX .38, both too thick for me to pocket carry.

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My 640’s weight will end up tearing my pants or sweat pants pockets. For light pocket carry I borrow the wife’s S&W Bodyguard 380. It is light and slim.
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Seecamp .32 or .380.
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I've already looked at the P238, but it's 15 oz unloaded, so with a loaded magazine it'd be pretty heavy.
The 15oz weight is incorrect (I realize that's what their website says it is). I just weighed my 238 on a digital postage scale:

13.7 ounces empty.
17.3 ounces loaded with 8rds (7rd MagGuts mag +1 in the chamber).


You're going to have a tough time beating 17.3 ounces for a pistol loaded with 8rds. The Ruger LCP is 5oz lighter, but in CA you'll spend the same cash on it as a P238... and it's not nearly the same quality as the Sig. The Sig is actually a really awesome gun to shoot, it's probably one of my favorite ones to bring out on range day. It's downright pleasurable to shoot. Most people don't say the same about the LCP.

I pocket carry my 238 all the time, I barely notice it's there.Not once have I said "I wish this was less fun to shoot and lesser quality but weighed a couple ounces less"
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LCP, it is my pajama gun. Very light, very concealable. Sure I have a P238, but that 5oz makes a big difference.

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The LCP II is a lot better than the LCP.
Not really. Better trigger - yes. Better sights too. But it is bigger, heavier, and there is no way I am ever putting a striker gun in my pocket unholstered, whereas the LCP I don’t worry about it. I carry it holstered, but on the occasion that I have to stuff it naked in a pocket, I feel safe carrying it that way. So at least for for my application, it is not better.

Ruger still cranks out a lot of hammer fired LCP, and it isn’t because the LCP II is universally better.
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Wow! Lots of great replies. Thanks everyone.

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Haha, I actually just tried it. It's not going to work.

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My ‘carry anywhere in my boxers’ gun is my Charter Undercover Lite with a DAO hammer and a Barami hip-grip - it’s also loaded with Ruger ARX .38 Special 77 gr rounds. Basically it’s like 11 oz loaded and doesn’t need a holster.
That's an interesting concept, and something that would definitely suit my needs. I'm not a huge fan of Charter Arms, but thanks for bringing that grip to my attention.

To everyone who mentioned the P238: I like the gun. I can actually wrap all my fingers around it which is nice, and I have no doubt I'd like it at the range. But for that weight I can get a PM9, which I can still shoot comfortably, and 9mm just has so much more reliable hollow point expansion I think it'd be worth the extra recoil. Also 9mm is cheaper.

The Ruger LCP looks like a winner, if I can find one for a reasonable price. I think it'll come down between that and a light revolver with one of those grip clips so it's not putting all its weight on the pocket.

And since someone mentioned 22LR, I'm one of those people that thinks with enough barrel length and proper ammo selection 22LR is sufficient for self-defense (not ideal, but sufficient). But since we're talking about pocket pistols with short barrels, I'd prefer 22 Mag for better hollow point expansion.
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For the longest time (about 12 years), I used a Kel-Tec P-32 as a pocketgun.

It weighs around 10 oz loaded with eight .32ACP 73gr FMJ rounds.

Carried it in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster.
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I like and carry Kel Tec P32 .32 ACP, mine is reliable with standard 7 round magazines, does not like extended mags. Weight 6.6 ounces,

Yeah this is the one I was thinking of.
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Here is a new boot style clip-grip for S&W:
https://www.desantisholster.com/clip-grip/
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I carry a P380.
Reliability is all in the wrist, literally.
It is extremely light, and though it doesn't feel "snappy", it is extremely prone to limp-wristing.
I've been shooting mine for a couple of years now and love it.
I went shooting with my buddy... blasted several mags through, no problems. Gave it to my buddy... EVERY shot he had a failure to fully go into battery. I put another 2 mags through it no issue. His son tried it and was about 50%.
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Ruger LCP or LCPII is what you want. Only available through PPT unless exempt. 12-13oz loaded. If the regular LCP or LCP Custom, add a Hogue Handall grip, stainless steel guide rod and 13lb spring (all to tame the recoil). Can also accept CrimsonTrace and Lasermax lasers, if desired. Load it with Underwood Xtreme Penetrators or Xtreme Defenders, put it in a Sticky Holster or DeSantis Superfly in your pocket and you’re good to go. Ruger has a good customer service rep as well. WARNING——It may make you so lazy that it becomes your full time EDC.
I went down today and got my NV drivers license, then to the gun store looking for a pocket gun and spotted a new ruger LCP 2. 285.00, background check, one box of blazer and one box Hornady critical defense. Out the door, 358.00. I haven't shot it yet, but it's light, small and easy to handle.
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Hello Calgunners,

I could use some recommendations for a particular kind of pocket pistol. I'm looking for something light enough to ride in sweat pants without pulling down on them too much.

Caliber doesn't matter that much to me, but I do prefer smaller calibers for smaller guns, and strongly prefer commonly available calibers. I'm a firm believer that the ability to practice often trumps any other consideration about caliber (so cost and comfort are big factors to me).

I've already looked at the P238, but it's 15 oz unloaded, so with a loaded magazine it'd be pretty heavy.

I haven't had a chance to try the Kahr P380 yet, but on paper it's very compact and light. Although some people claim Kahrs are unreliable.

The LCR and M&P 340 are strong contenders as well. I always hear about problems with compact semis but not very much about compact revolvers.

I've looked at the NAA Mini Revolver as well but it seems like such a pain to load and unload that I would end up not practicing a whole lot with it. The Sidewinder looks interesting but in California we can only get the 4" model and that makes it too long for the pocket.

Am I missing anything? Anyone have any other recommendations?
Mystery Milk,

I have a Kahr in 9mm and it's been very reliable once broken in. I recommend the LCR for it's slim compact size and you can also mount a laser on it with little more bulk.

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Carry whatever you want. https://www.crossbreedholsters.com/m...d-package.html

You do not want to carry a gun in your pocket without some form of holster. The holster will also add weight. The light fabric of a pair of sweats is going to create other issues when you are trying to draw your pistol from sweats. Namely, you may end up pulling everything out. A belly band would eliminate all those issues.

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very light weight easy to carry, try a colt 1908 vest pocket in .25
I think if you find a used older one it can be shipped even though off roster.
I have and carry one from 1911 runs flawlessly. carry it mostly when I wear very light shorts with no belt
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