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I know how you feel. I just did it too..... like she will listen. But she needs to HEAR FROM EVERYONE!!! |
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When it comes to the Second Amendment, and even most of the Bill of Rights, I have no representation in Congress. I have zero representation in the Senate, and representation on only a few (minor) issues in the House. Feinswine, Boxer, and "my" Representative voted in favor of the anti-constitutional FISA just last week.
So, I think I shall start proclaiming, "No Legislation without Representation!" |
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Response from my Congressional Rep
Hey guys, so I emailed my congressional rep, and I actually got a response. Since I live in the East Bay, a democratic stronghold, I sort of expected that he wouldn't change his mind. I'm not sure if he wrote this or if its just an automated response. Here it is below:
January 4, 2013 Dear Wei, Thank you for contacting me to share your views on gun control. Despite strong public support for common-sense gun laws, and despite our nation's tragic history of mass shootings, the gun lobby has consistently and successfully thwarted even modest gun safety provisions. I strongly support efforts to reduce gun violence, and I believe there are many aspects of our nation's gun laws that deserve close scrutiny and updating. For example, Congress should act to close the gun show loophole by requiring criminal background checks on all gun buyers. I also support banning the importation of large capacity ammunition clips, and the requirement of child safety locks or storage containers for all handguns, and tough trigger lock standards. I support efforts to prohibit anyone under the age of 21 from buying a handgun, and I support the regulation of the sale of handguns on the Internet. I have also supported legislation to limit the purchase of handguns to only one per month per person in order to stop interstate gunrunners. These are reasonable steps that we can take to keep deadly weapons out of the hands of those who would misuse them and cause harm to those around them. We also need to do more to allow law enforcement officers to apprehend dangerous gun criminals, and end loopholes that give criminals and fugitives easy access to guns. Specifically, we should improve gun tracing and ballistics testing systems that aid in the identification of criminals; fund smart gun technologies which prevent guns from being used by criminals and children; and close a number of dangerous loopholes that hinder the enforcement of gun laws. Unfortunately, powerful lobbyists continue to prevent any progress from being made in reducing gun violence. There are some people who believe that all gun control measures violate the Second Amendment to the Constitution. This belief is not consistent with constitutional law. The United States Supreme Court in 1980 held in Lewis v. United States that "legislative restrictions on the use of firearms do not trench upon any constitutionally protected liberties." The federal government may regulate the ownership of firearms, and such regulation is vital to curbing violence. It is a sad fact of reality that we will never be able to prevent every instance of gun violence. This reality, however, does not make our efforts irrelevant. Instead, it makes our efforts even more vital. I believe that with passage of legislation to provide comprehensive enhancement of existing gun laws and of other sensible and meaningful provisions, we could reduce gun violence in this country and help keep firearms out of the hands of children and criminals. I am hopeful that in the coming months our nation can have serious reflection about how we can reduce the flow of guns into the wrong hands. One mass shooting after another in America is followed by sincere and painful mourning but no real action to protect the innocent. We must come together as a nation to honestly discuss how to prevent people intent on carrying out these savage attacks from so easily obtaining guns and ammunition. The nation is ready for this conversation. More importantly, though, the safety of children and all Americans demands we have it. I appreciate knowing of your views on this very important issue. Sincerely, GEORGE MILLER Member of Congress |
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Heh. When the fillibuster reform passes the senate and the senate becomes Obama's rubber stamp then he can have all the fun he wants. Im off to Germany today, hopefully our freedoms are still intact when i get back.
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Why do these people keep using "the gun lobby"? The NRA is US. It is an organization of hundreds of thousands of INDIVIDUAL GUN OWNERS. It is not a trade organization.
They are deflecting attention from "I don't agree with YOU. I don't think that YOU are right." I am really starting to get the feeling that we need to hit the reset button for the US.
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I love how they think you can just buy a gun over the internet and have it shipped to your house. And dont you have to be 21 to buy a handgun already?
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I love how he quoted a pre-Heller SCOTUS ruling - BEFORE it was established that we have a fundamental enumerated right.
He's always been a complete POS - I grew up in his district and my family ran his yard sign campaigns #yesimshamed
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How ignorant is this guy. It's already unlawful to sell handguns to persons under 21. So much wheel spinning just to look like they're doing something.
They are so quick to restrict our rights while allowing the criminals a pass on many gun related violations and early releases to unsupervised parole. WTF? over. http://www.nctimes.com/news/world/gu...12feefa0a.html Interesting article. The Swiss, with very high per capita gun ownership nation. They also have gun registration and mental health monitoring, yet the crazies still get guns. Too bad he was only wounded.
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Response i expected from Mike Thompson. I didnt inquire about the sandy hook massacre as his response starts out. My letter was titled support 2A rights.
Dear Mr. Thank you for contacting me regarding the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. There have been far too many tragic shootings this year and this particular senseless act of violence took the lives of innocent, young children and staff who believed they were safe at school. As a father and grandfather, I am deeply shocked and saddened. The students, teachers, and the families of those killed in this tragedy are in my thoughts and prayers. As your representative in Congress, I am committed to doing more to prevent tragedies like these and have recently been named to lead a congressional task force on reducing and preventing gun violence. I am a gun owner, hunter, former co-chair of the Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus, supporter of the Second Amendment and a combat veteran who carried an assault rifle in Vietnam. I believe law-abiding, mentally-stable Americans have the right to own legitimate firearms for legitimate purposes. I understand guns, their purpose and how they are used. I understand that we have an obligation to make sure guns are used responsibly. I understand that there are some people who should not have access to firearms. And I believe that military-type assault weapons and assault magazines like the ones I carried in Vietnam have no place on our streets or in our communities. They serve no hunting purpose, they aid criminals, and they too often are a tool for mass shootings. Whether it's a classroom in Newtown, a movie theater in Aurora, or a shopping mall in Oregon, our nation has mourned far too many of these tragedies. There is no set of laws that will end these horrific tragedies and senseless acts of violence, but that cannot be an excuse to do nothing. It is time to act. And we need a comprehensive approach that goes beyond just arming more people with more guns to make this happen. Congress must reinstate the ban on military-type assault weapons and assault magazines, improve our background check system to ensure that anyone who buys a firearm is a law-abiding, mentally stable individual, and figure out how to close the holes in our mental health system and make sure care is available for those that need it. As chair of this congressional gun violence task force, I will be working on these issues as part of a comprehensive approach to reduce gun violence and strengthen our nation's gun laws. I will be working with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, mental health experts, gun rights advocacy groups, gun safety advocacy groups, school and education leaders, entertainment industry leaders, law enforcement officials and others to discuss a comprehensive approach to combating the prevalence of gun violence in our communities. All issues must be on the table and everyone must be at the table. Together we can give our time, our hearts and our very best efforts to do everything possible to make sure this kind violence is no longer visited on our children and our nation. Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please continue to contact me on all issues of importance to you and to our district. Sincerely, MIKE THOMPSON Member of Congress http://www.mikethompson.house.gov You cannot reply to this email. If you would like to email me, please visit http://mikethompson.house.gov/contact/email.shtml
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Used to be the case, when in DC for sessions, that Miller shared a house near DC with other members of Congress. For example one room-mate was Senator Charles Schumer, D-NY ...
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That explains much!
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Wow, you wanted to show your support for pro-gun politics and got counted as one of the anti-gun supporters lol.
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I got the same bullcrap when I wrote to Frankenstein"s office. It's all out war of words and soon to be actions by the anti"s. I"m trying to enlist more support for the Pro-Gun movement by giving true and factual information instead of giving feel good measures.
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Yes. And hundered thousand should be changed to several million.
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Nope, don't want to address the problem, which is psychopaths, they merely want to outlaw self-defense.
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Oh, lord, I missed this the first time.
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http://www.constitution.org/ussc/445-055a.htm LEWIS v. UNITED STATES, 445 U.S. 55 (1980) George Calvin Lewis was convicted of being a prior felon who received a firearm. Quote:
I find it telling that the good Congressman seems to classify all of us as felons, ineligible to possess firearms.
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I also emailed Nunes, got no response so I called his office. I was greeted by a polite staffer that knew the issues. He informed me Nunes was not supporting the AWB or high cap mag ban and voted against the fiscal cliff deal. Right on Devin ... keeping holding the line brother !
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Love my canned response from Boxer and Chu
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Response letter from Congressman Ken Calvert
Thank you for contacting me regarding the issue of gun control. I appreciate the opportunity to respond.
On December 14, 2012, Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown came under siege from a lone gunman; 26 people, most of them children, tragically were killed. As a nation, we struggle to comprehend the magnitude of the loss, and the existence of so great an evil. In the aftermath of the shooting, gun control proponents have urged the President and Congress to act to restrict assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy (NY-4) is leading the effort in the House and has introduced legislation to ban the sale or transfer of magazines holding more than 10 rounds. After introduction on January 3, 2012, the High Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act (H.R. 1378) was referred to the House Judiciary Committee for further action. I believe that as we engage in a national debate about how to better protect our children, we must not make the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens an easy target. This essential right must be protected to guarantee our safety and our freedom. Sadly there are often no easy answers in stopping the depraved actions of a lone gunman. The National Rifle Association has put forward their own plan to protect students, focusing on armed security, access controls, student and teacher training, and information technology. As discussions continue, rest assured I will keep your views in mind and certainly appreciate your input. As your Representative in Congress, please be assured that I will continue to be a strong advocate of legislation that preserves our rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Once again, thank you for your correspondence. I hope you will continue to contact me regarding issues of importance to you and your family. In the meantime, I encourage you to visit my website at www.calvert.house.gov and sign up for my weekly e-newsletters. For urgent updates on critical issues, follow me on Twitter (@KenCalvert) and check out my Facebook page (Congressman Ken Calvert). Sincerely, KEN CALVERT Member of Congress
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Sent to my representative (with the expectation of it doing absolutely no good):
It has come to my attention that when recently asked "Do you support re-enacting the Federal assault weapons ban that was in effect from 1994 to 2004?", you and several other CA Representatives answered "Yes". Why do you think reinstating a law that had a 10-year trial with little to no measurable effect seems like a good idea now? The time and effort associated with such an action will be yet another waste of taxpayers money at a time when your focus as my Representative should be on reducing spending. Furthermore your support for this action or others that seek to produce similar restrictions are an effort to infringe upon of my Second Amendment rights. For your easy reference, please see http://www.sas.upenn.edu/jerrylee/re..._final2004.pdf, "An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003", particularly Section 10.2 entitled "Potential Consequences of Reauthorizing, Modifying, or Lifting the Assault Weapons Ban". It includes the following statement: "Should it be renewed, the ban might reduce gunshot victimizations. This effect is likely to be small at best and possibly too small for reliable measurement." I look forward to your reply. I hope that it will be received in timely manner and contain a meaningful, reasoned explanation of your position on this matter of importance. Respectfully, Last edited by bluzman; 01-05-2013 at 12:45 PM.. |
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I email Karen Bass last Dec 31, 2013 and I received this auto-reply email same night and had NOT any respond since then.
On Dec 31, 2012, at 8:38 PM, "Rep. Karen Bass" <113-CA37kb.inbox@mail.house.gov> wrote: "Thank you for taking the time to write to me. As your Representative, I appreciate hearing your thoughts and welcome the opportunity to respond. I will reply to your correspondence shortly. To learn more about my position on issues important to the 33rd Congressional District, please visit my website at karenbass.house.gov or sign up for my e-newsletter. " Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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He is a pig!! I lived in Corona/Norco area and one of my friends arrested him for prostitiution, but the police covered it up. From wiki
In 1993, two Corona, California, police officers found Calvert with a woman in his car, his pants unzipped and his penis exposed. When one officer spotlit the interior of the vehicle, Calvert attempted to drive away. The officers instructed him to stop three times before he complied. Calvert told the police that he and the woman, who said she was a convicted prostitute and a heroin user, were "just talking."[27][28] The Press-Enterprise later went to court to force the Corona police to release the police report.[29] If you are a politician you can break the law, and the higher ups at the police department will make it go away. He is a PIG. Just my dos centavos. |
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[quote] ...I will continue to be a strong advocate of legislation that preserves our rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. [quote]
I'm not one of his constituents, but I think the way he worded his reply was somewhat 'weasley'? IMO, to say he wants to preserve our 2A rights could mean he would accept legislation allowing the right to keep and bear only 5 shot revolvers and nothing else. Or he might genuinely believe in our un-restricted RKBA. I think he should have been much more specific. Just my opinion. |
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My first reading was that it was a non-committal response, but imo, in this political climate nobody would mention the NRA unless they were either pro-gun or mocking the NRA.
He clearly did not mock the NRA, so my current thought is that he's clearly not an anti, but more than that you can't really say. Not enough information....
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