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Old 08-10-2019, 10:21 PM
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Default Mosin trainers in 22LR - what are your thoughts?

What do folks think about the 22 mosin trainers?

Cool collectables?
Good shooters?
Too heavy?

Can you mount a scope? Should you?

Is there any mod that isnt too terribly Bubba to make it take a magazine? I kind of want too try, please don't run me out of town and tar/feather me.
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Old 08-14-2019, 9:23 AM
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Bumping. I have a line on one for under $150, so it seems like an obvious yes, but 150 is also a lot of ammo
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Old 08-14-2019, 1:27 PM
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For $150 it's a no-brainer. Check for barrel bulge (sometimes hard to see, but surprisingly common in used .22s).

Is it a Polish?
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My first choice would be a Polish WZ-48 trainer, single shot, no scope provision. Things to look for that are common: Poles had some crap .22 ammo, and a number of rifles have "ringed" bores from squib rounds. I've seen a couple that had a half dozen rings in the bore.
Extractors were fitted to the individual rifle, and make up part of the chamber rear. If it's a mismatch, and you see any gaps there, you'll have case ruptures. Without these faults, they are tack drivers, even some that have only one or two rings in the bore.
For a clip fed, with scope grooves, the best bang for your buck would be the Romanian M69.
The Russian TOZ trainer comes in a variety of clip fed models, but I'm not sure if any are scope ready, maybe some of the later ones that look more like a sporting rifle than a trainer.
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This is a nice looking option, and weighs 3 pounds!

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Old 08-15-2019, 2:07 PM
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It is the polish model. I'll check it over. Looks brand freaking new. But the guy is a friend, too so I'm not suspicious. I'll check it over in any case.

Is there anyway to mod it to have a 22lr version of the mosin internal mag? Am I talking crazy talk? I think I'll pick it up.

I've heard those KSA mosin copies are excellent.
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Old 08-15-2019, 2:09 PM
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If I ever find a Toz, I would pick it up in a second. I just cannot find them!

Thanks for the info, that is all really cool and helpful.

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My first choice would be a Polish WZ-48 trainer, single shot, no scope provision. Things to look for that are common: Poles had some crap .22 ammo, and a number of rifles have "ringed" bores from squib rounds. I've seen a couple that had a half dozen rings in the bore.
Extractors were fitted to the individual rifle, and make up part of the chamber rear. If it's a mismatch, and you see any gaps there, you'll have case ruptures. Without these faults, they are tack drivers, even some that have only one or two rings in the bore.
For a clip fed, with scope grooves, the best bang for your buck would be the Romanian M69.
The Russian TOZ trainer comes in a variety of clip fed models, but I'm not sure if any are scope ready, maybe some of the later ones that look more like a sporting rifle than a trainer.
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Old 08-15-2019, 4:31 PM
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Is there anyway to mod it to have a 22lr version of the mosin internal mag?
Though I can't see how, I imagine anything is possible, if you have enough money.
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I have a Romanian m69 and it is one of my favorite .22 rifles out of the dozen or so .22 rifles I own. Everybody who has shot it loves it too. You can get a few Korean mags on ebay for cheap and shoot all day.
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Though I can't see how, I imagine anything is possible, if you have enough money.
Right. I'm pretty sure I'm buying it. Have to check it out though.
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Collecting .22 trainers is a whole specialized genre of military surplus rifles. Just another rabbit hole to explore!!
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Default Mosin trainers in 22LR - what are your thoughts?

If you want fun, pick up a Romanian WASR22 trainer which is essentially an AK74 receiver with a 22 magazine, 22 barrel, 22bolt and rails and a 22 trunnion. All other parts will swap out with the standard AK74 stuff. I built this one up many years ago and it was an absolute blast to play with. BTW, it is made up of AK74 carbine and PSL sniper rifle parts.

They arent C&R but its 22 so no worries about having to lock in the mag and such.

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Collecting .22 trainers is a whole specialized genre of military surplus rifles. Just another rabbit hole to explore!!
I just fell down it man.

Bought an M69.

Who knows what is next
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That's awesome. Something to consider. Crap. Too many things.

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If you want fun, pick up a Romanian WASR22 trainer which is essentially an AK74 receiver with a 22 magazine, 22 barrel, 22bolt and rails and a 22 trunnion. All other parts will swap out with the standard AK74 stuff. I built this one up many years ago and it was an absolute blast to play with. BTW, it is made up of AK74 carbine and PSL sniper rifle parts.

They arent C&R but its 22 so no worries about having to lock in the mag and such.

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Collecting .22 trainers is a whole specialized genre of military surplus rifles. Just another rabbit hole to explore!!
You are So correct..

Been looking for the Mosin .22 myself
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Libertytree has magazines:

https://www.libertytreecollectors.co...5&idcategory=5
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