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Old 05-02-2015, 12:50 AM
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i saw a rossi at the LGS today for $590 and thought it was a little expensive. I'm not sure about rossi as a brand anyhow. Should I get a henry? or winchester or browning? I'm set on 357 carbine
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That Rossi is fine. I'm looking at the stainless model carbine in 357mag/38special. But my first lever was the Henry Big Boy 45lc. Nothing like the fit and finish of a Henry Rifle.
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Having had two different Rossi rifles (both 357/38), they're fun and accurate rifles, and a good value for the money, but they certainly can be finicky with ammo. One of the ones I had would NOT feed anything besides jacketed rounds, and also choked on almost any .38 Special rounds. The other one is a bit better, but stiol, there's a reason that Rossi rifles tend to be the least expensive of the pistol-caliber levers. I once owned a Winchester 94AE in .44Mag that was a very reliable feeder. The problem was that it was too expensive to feed.

IF I had the cash, I'd go after a Uberti 1873 reproduction.
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The Rossi is a good rifle. Mine's not finicky with ammo except that it won't eat some very old semi wadcutter ammo. Get the Steve's Gunz video and do a little simple work and they're pretty slick for the money.
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i have a marlin 1894 i enjoy the hell out of it.

i have heard good things about the uberti as well but i believe it ejects brass out the top of the rifle.

the marlin is super fast and feed extremely well and reliably.
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Stoeger Uberti 1873

They're not cheap, but they are really nice.
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I have a Rossi made EMF Hartford 1892, an Uberti 1873 and a Winchester 1894 all in .45 Colt. All works great and rarely had a problem with any of them.
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Tag, also interested.
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The Rossi is a good rifle. Mine's not finicky with ammo except that it won't eat some very old semi wadcutter ammo. Get the Steve's Gunz video and do a little simple work and they're pretty slick for the money.
I agree with all of the above. Love mine.
$590 seems a bit high, though.
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I went to another LGS and saw a chiappa 357/38 with a silver finish... $1500.. the guy said 357 costs more for some reason
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I have a Henry .22lr which is great quality and looking for a .357 later this year. The Henry Big Boy Carbine looks like a really good option, but I couldn't find it in any store or on gunbroker http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/he...g-boy-carbine/

I haven't owned a Rossi, but I've held and inspected a dozen or so. The quality in the details along with the finish wasn't as nice as a Henry, but for the price maybe they're still worth it. I guess it depends on how much you want to spend. I think you would have to check them out in-person to make a really good decision.
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My Rossi works well. Accurate and will eat 38 or 357. You just have to work the action like you mean it. Cycle it like you stole it. It goes bang every time.
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The new Henry Steel Big Boy looks like a nice option. Ive been close to pulling trigger on a standard Big Boy but dont care for brass reciever. Waiting on some reviews for the new steel recieviers.
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I've stopped taking my Henry Big Boy to the range because every time I do, I can never shoot it. Everybody want to oogle all over the thing. Henry sells a display case so you can put it inside and hang it over the fireplace. Yeah, they are that beautiful. Very, very smooth action. So far, I've only shot .38 Special out of it. .357 Mag is difficult to find, and when you do, it is ridiculously expensive. So I'm going to cook my own.
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at .35c/round, i dont find it HORRIBLY expensive, compared, to , say .308

https://www.freedommunitions.com/357...158n-b0500.htm

the rossi is a great lever gun. So is the Uberti, but? That Henry is beautiful.
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I did a review on Rossi 92's, both .38/357M and .44Spl/Mag calibers. Here's my take.

http://www.liberalsguncorner.com/?p=160

The Rossi 92 won't have quite the fit 'n' finish of a Winchester 94. Don't expect that. But that Rossi 92 will chamber rounds and go bang reliably when you pull the fun switch. I've even tried full wadcutter .38 Spl in my Rossi 92, and--I was amazed--everything fed fine. And the Rossi's fit 'n' finish actually isn't bad. Really.

That $590 price is a bit high, though. I just saw several at my local gun show for about $450. These were blued models, and there's nothing wrong with a blued rifle. They've worked just fine for, what, a couple hundred years now? So, if you see a better price, sure, go for one.
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+1 for marlin. They make a fine lever action rifle.
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Henry is great quality, but I think a lever gun should be able to feed ammo into the receiver... having to put the rifle down, take out the tube etc. just doesn't seem right for a cowboy gun
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I got my Rossi 92 from GalleryofGuns. It's been flawless so far, but if there's ever any issues I have a lifetime warranty from Davidsons.
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Henry is great quality, but I think a lever gun should be able to feed ammo into the receiver... having to put the rifle down, take out the tube etc. just doesn't seem right for a cowboy gun
Yup. This is my ONLY complaint on the Henry-style rifles.
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Yup. This is my ONLY complaint on the Henry-style rifles.
Plus the weight.
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I went to another LGS and saw a chiappa 357/38 with a silver finish... $1500.. the guy said 357 costs more for some reason
I'd venture a guess and say the .357 is a little harder to find because they are cheaper to shoot and its easier to find factory loads.

I have two Rossi's, a 24" .357 and a 44 carbine. The .357 needed to be sent back to Braztech for repair out of the box, the 44 needs to be repaired as well, its just not under warranty. That said, the .357 is still my favorite gun to shoot. For the price, I'd still buy a rossi over any of the other model 92's just for cost reasons.
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Was it this one?










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Not sure if anyone has already posted a link to this, but...
http://www.southernohiogun.com/henry...oy-357mag.html

oh, it seems they are sold out.
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There's nothing wrong with a blued rifle. They've worked just fine for, what, a couple hundred years now?
^^^^love that!

I bought a lucky one at Big 5 for a song just before they dropped them and it's as sick as butta! This is a rifle that you keep even if you don't shoot much. It's the politically correct assault rifle, even non-gun people are OK with a lever action.
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I like my Winchester bought it used, it shoots nicely, does not jam, make sure its pre 1964
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What is everyone's thoughts on 16 inch vs 20 inch .357?

Ballistically there isn't much gained. But, you do get a longer sight radius and bigger magazine capacity...

I can't decide which one to get.
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I have a Marlin 1894 in .44, but is believe they also make them in .357. That'd be my recommendation.

20" for the record
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Henry is great quality, but I think a lever gun should be able to feed ammo into the receiver... having to put the rifle down, take out the tube etc. just doesn't seem right for a cowboy gun
^^^Henrys are great rifles, just do not like the tube load, want to do my "tactical" reloads on the fly.

I have both a 16" and a 20" Rossi 92, neither has had a problem feeding various types and brands of ammo. Choosing between the 16 and the 20, both are tons of fun, but the 16 wins based on a coolness factor for me, reminds me of the "Rifleman" TV show. I am looking for a 24" octagon barrel for my next one.
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I'm partial to my two 1873 Winchesters...
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What is everyone's thoughts on 16 inch vs 20 inch .357?

Ballistically there isn't much gained. But, you do get a longer sight radius and bigger magazine capacity...

I can't decide which one to get.
Try to go to a gun shop that has the model you're interested in, sometimes longer barrels balance better or vice versa. Balance and weight are way more important than capacity.

For 357, I like the shorter barrel length. Quicker to sight, easier to transport/store and just handier in general. I think they are more fun to shoot. In my experience, longer guns tend to stay in the safe.

Also be aware that you will probably want to lighten up the loading gate, especially if you buy brand new... your thumbs will thank you

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I have a Henry in .357 and love it, tube feeding is not a problem. The gun is for plinking not shooting zombies in a hypothetical situation.
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I have a Henry in .357 and love it, tube feeding is not a problem. The gun is for plinking not shooting zombies in a hypothetical situation.
Such a negative approach. How does a superior loading system translate to use against zombies in a hypothetical situation?
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I have a browning B92 in 357 and it's a peach, but they are getting hard to find and they aren't cheap.

With lever 357s I think handloading is important because it lets you run 38 loads in 357 cases which helps with feeding, cost and fun.
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FWIW, in case you guys hadn't seen the new henry, they now make a steel version of the Big Boy rifle. I have an H001 and enjoy the hec out of it.
https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/henry-big-boy-steel

I've said it before and say it again. I wish Rossi offered all of their R92's in both tube feed and side loader like they do their .454Casull
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-deta...adcrumbseries=
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I have a browning B92 in 357 and it's a peach, but they are getting hard to find and they aren't cheap.....

This is the best 92 clone available.
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With lever 357s I think handloading is important because it lets you run 38 loads in 357 cases which helps with feeding, cost and fun.
Agreed on the handloading and flexibility. Turns out I like to go the other way, .357 loads in .38 +P cases, to get that extra round in the tube. My 92 (16" bbl) will take eight .357M rounds, but nine .38 rounds, using the same 358-158-RF cast boolit. If I use the "Crayola Tip" 358-105-SWC, I can easily fit nine in there.

My particular rifle doesn't seem to mind one bit whether you feed it .38 cases or .357M cases. Maybe I just got a well-mannered one. But my .44M version of the same rifle also likes .44 Spl cases, too, which is consistent with my .38/357's behaviour.
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What is everyone's thoughts on 16 inch vs 20 inch .357?

I can't decide which one to get.
If you're talking Henry, as mentioned, they are heavy suckers. After about 45 minutes at the range, I have to quit because I can hardly hold the thing up anymore. The 20" is a hair over eight and a half pounds. The 16 inch carbine is about a pound less.

So, if weight is an issue, go with the carbine. You also lose a few rounds capacity with the carbine. But, hey. What is that they say about Henrys, "Load them on Sunday. Shoot all week long".
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I bought a stainless Rossi .357 last year and the action was pretty rough. I literally had to deburr a lot of the parts. It's not a ton of work, but kinda sucks with a new gun. That being said it's now smooth as butta and the trigger is light as hell.
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