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Old 07-09-2018, 7:31 PM
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Still waiting too. 96 days. They are swamped. And last week was a holiday in the middle.


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Old 07-10-2018, 1:48 PM
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Still waiting too. 96 days. They are swamped. And last week was a holiday in the middle.


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Wow, there're a few people here on this thread went over 90 days. I thought they would act when this gets close to this timeline.

Try give the clerk a courteous call.
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Old 07-10-2018, 2:18 PM
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(1) Without going into so much detail so as to ID yourself, what was your Good Cause like?

(2) Do you know Sheriff Gore, either professionally or personally?

(3) Have you ever donated to Sheriff Gore's election campaign?
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1. GC is work related, travelling to unsafe parts of town, unincorporated/desert area; odd hours during travel driving alone; carry equipment if stolen can be sold easily.

2. I do not know Sheriff Gore or have affiliation with SDSO.

3. I did not donate to Sheriff Gore.
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Old 07-13-2018, 7:53 PM
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I like this thread. It makes me smile, in Texas.
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Old 07-14-2018, 3:46 AM
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I like this thread. It makes me smile, in Texas.


I used to live in OKC a few years prior to moving back to San Diego, took the class and applied, took them only 3 weeks to issue. My permit was for 10 years.


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Old 07-14-2018, 7:13 PM
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I used to live in OKC a few years prior to moving back to San Diego, took the class and applied, took them only 3 weeks to issue. My permit was for 10 years.
Not quite understanding if you're commenting about a permit in SD or OK. We lived in SD for about 28 years in total and never would have been issued a CCW. So, all the cow towing to Gore is beyond the pale.
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Not quite understanding if you're commenting about a permit in SD or OK. We lived in SD for about 28 years in total and never would have been issued a CCW. So, all the cow towing to Gore is beyond the pale.


I was commenting on both. In OKC, it was very simple to get comparing to San Diego.


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Old 07-15-2018, 7:34 PM
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San Diego County Gun Owners (Schwartz et al) made a push and Gore played a political game where he said he would loosen up on CCW's in San Diego.

Yes, I am one who put a CCW application in 3 years ago with Peruta and again back in April when a lot of people were saying that things had loosened up.

Now that Gore was re-elected, I can tell you that my rejection letter came yesterday with a very vague reference to how they found something during their 'investigation' that "casts doubt on the good moral character criteria...". My 90 days spanned the election and when Dave Meyer did not win, I was even less optimistic.

I went through the process hoping that it might happen, full expecting the rejection letter and the ploy by Gore to get votes and collect money from people like me. Your fee (~ $108) is NOT refundable and due upon submitting application. Typical bait and switch by a politician!
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I believe there is an appeals process. Is there a way to force them to be specific about their issue? At a minimum, I would think you are entitled to that, although that sort of common sense and fairness has little application in this situation.

Anyone else get a rejection for GMC?
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I would talk to SDCGO straight away and get advice.
I would assume they will recommend to appeal, and may ask if you can think of what it is they might be talking about as far as "casting doubt" on GMC. Perhaps some recent documents from others attesting to GMC will remove this "doubt" they write of if presented to them during an appeal. You either are or are not, so "doubt" seems weak enough to appeal them on it. I would press on for sure and good luck.
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Always appeal! Especially if $108. means something to you.
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Now that Gore was re-elected, I can tell you that my rejection letter came yesterday
Wanna see my shocked face?

Lotta people sucked down The Hero of Ruby Ridge's BS hook, line & sinker.
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Mine showed up Friday. Follow on appt set for next week to pick up the permit.


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That's 111 days from my interview (I only had one, they did the whole thing in one shot) until yesterday. Called this morning, and they said I'm in the after panel process and should hear something in the next week or two.
Denial came, insufficient good cause. "We encourage you to explore other means of protection."
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:22 PM
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San Diego County Gun Owners (Schwartz et al) made a push and Gore played a political game where he said he would loosen up on CCW's in San Diego.
SDCGO said they got him to expand his acceptable GC, that's all.

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Yes, I am one who put a CCW application in 3 years ago with Peruta
Did you get issued or denied on this application? If denied, what was the reason? (e.g., insufficient GC? lack of GMC?) What was the GC you used then like?

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and again back in April when a lot of people were saying that things had loosened up.

Now that Gore was re-elected, I can tell you that my rejection letter came yesterday with a very vague reference to how they found something during their 'investigation' that "casts doubt on the good moral character criteria...". My 90 days spanned the election and when Dave Meyer did not win, I was even less optimistic.
So your 2018 app got denied for lack of GMC, not for insufficient GC.

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I went through the process hoping that it might happen, full expecting the rejection letter and the ploy by Gore to get votes and collect money from people like me. Your fee (~ $108) is NOT refundable and due upon submitting application. Typical bait and switch by a politician!
You're arguing that because you got denied for lack of GMC that somehow shows that Gore "bait and switch[ed]" the GC standard to get elected??? You realize that makes no sense, right? Or are you trying to pull a fast one on us? Did you try something like that with Gore? If so, it might explain why you were denied for lack of GMC....

Besides, just read others' posts and you will see CGNers are getting CCWs approved by Gore post-election.
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Mine showed up Friday. Follow on appt set for next week to pick up the permit.
Congrats!!!


Can you post what your GC was like, but without so much detail that it would ID you?

Do you know Gore, either personally or professionally?

Have you ever donated to a Gore campaign?
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Denial came, insufficient good cause. "We encourage you to explore other means of protection."
Well, that sucks. But no body ever said Gore was accepting SD = GC.

Can you post what your GC was like, but without so much detail that it would ID you?
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I had my final issuance appointment this morning. I am now a card carrying member of the hidden pistol club.

The card they gave me is a ****ty, laminated 3" x 4" piece of paper. It fits in bi-fold wallet, but to my dismay, will not fit in a money clip/card holder/etc.

The gentlemen who handled my issuance appointment was very friendly and forthcoming with all of the questions that I asked.

I asked him if he has seen people get rejected recently, and he said yes, which is contrary to what San Diego Gun Owners claims. We discussed people getting rejection letters for having drug/DUI/violent crime convictions (seriously...), and a few for lack of good cause. Some people used "I like to go on hikes in the woods" as their good cause, and that doesn't fly with the CCW panel folks. He confirmed that the vast majority of applicants are getting approval letters.

We also discussed the renewal process. He said that its as simple as a single appointment, two years from now. The good cause is determined by the clerk at the appointment, and as long as nothing major has changed from the last issuance, they go ahead and extend your permit that day (as long as you have had the 4 hour training).


Edit: One more thing, the guy had 14 files sitting on his desk for people who would be getting their CCW's today. All of the other clerks had the same work load, so A LOT of people are getting permits right now.

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I had my final issuance appointment this morning. I am now a card carrying member of the hidden pistol club.

The card they gave me is a ****ty, laminated 3" x 4" piece of paper. It fits in bi-fold wallet, but to my dismay, will not fit in a money clip/card holder/etc.

The gentlemen who handled my issuance appointment was very friendly and forthcoming with all of the questions that I asked.

I asked him if he has seen people get rejected recently, and he said yes, which is contrary to what San Diego Gun Owners claims. We discussed people getting rejection letters for having drug/DUI/violent crime convictions (seriously...), and a few for lack of good cause. Some people used "I like to go on hikes in the woods" as their good cause, and that doesn't fly with the CCW panel folks. He confirmed that the vast majority of applicants are getting approval letters.

We also discussed the renewal process. He said that its as simple as a single appointment, two years from now. The good cause is determined by the clerk at the appointment, and as long as nothing major has changed from the last issuance, they go ahead and extend your permit that day (as long as you have had the 4 hour training).


Edit: One more thing, the guy had 14 files sitting on his desk for people who would be getting their CCW's today. All of the other clerks had the same work load, so A LOT of people are getting permits right now.
Thanks for the report. Hopefully they are working at speeding things up.
Renewal process sounds very good. Hope I get the chance to have that concern. Still waiting the long wait now.
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Denial came, insufficient good cause. "We encourage you to explore other means of protection."

I would talk to SDCGO for advice on appealing.
Can't hurt to explore any possible path forward.
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Oh by the way, the permit is laminated already then, is it thin enough one can at least fold it?
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I had my final issuance appointment this morning. I am now a card carrying member of the hidden pistol club.
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I asked him if he has seen people get rejected recently, and he said yes, which is contrary to what San Diego Gun Owners claims.
AFAIK, as of about a month or so ago, SDCGO has said there were none given final denials (i.e., after appealing). There were, IIRC, at that time 2 or 3 being appealed. That may have changed since then.

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We discussed people getting rejection letters for having drug/DUI/violent crime convictions (seriously...), and a few for lack of good cause. Some people used "I like to go on hikes in the woods" as their good cause, and that doesn't fly with the CCW panel folks. He confirmed that the vast majority of applicants are getting approval letters.
And that's what enables evildoers to succeed, like the Zodiac Killer did at Lake Berryessa in rural Napa Co.... The Napa Co sheriff who disarmed this couple was as culpable for their murders as was the Zodiac who tied their wrists together. The current Napa Co sheriff, John R. Robertson, still does not issue CCWs for SD = GC. He's an "enabler" for murderers, just like every other anti CCW sheriff and chief in CA.



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But at least Gore is issuing a LOT more CCWs. If history is a guide, San Diego County will not go back to restrictive issuance and will slowly increase their rates of issuance, as will whoever comes after Gore.

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We also discussed the renewal process. He said that its as simple as a single appointment, two years from now. The good cause is determined by the clerk at the appointment, and as long as nothing major has changed from the last issuance, they go ahead and extend your permit that day (as long as you have had the 4 hour training).

Edit: One more thing, the guy had 14 files sitting on his desk for people who would be getting their CCW's today. All of the other clerks had the same work load, so A LOT of people are getting permits right now.
Yep, this is 90+ days after SDCGO started having their CCW application classes.

If you happen to communicate with him again, can you ask if/when they will be switching to an online application process?
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