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View Poll Results: What are your feelings about Front Sight?
Great Training for Beginners Only. 69 7.91%
Great Training Beginner and Advanced. 589 67.55%
The Quality of Training is Going Down Hill. 19 2.18%
I paid too much for my Membership! 40 4.59%
They will go out of business this year! 21 2.41%
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Old 07-02-2018, 9:58 AM
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what really cracks me up is the "personal" emails. I love it when he says I am one of the highest or elite members or something along those lines. Then I see the EXACT same email to my 12 year old son (who I gave a diamond ) and who has never attended FS or done anything else with them.
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Is anyone going to the Front Sight July 4th seminar with Piazza? Is he having one? I did not receive any notification about it but if you were invited, can you report back?

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Old 07-02-2018, 2:36 PM
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Any fireworks show or speeches at Front Sight for the 4th?
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Had a speech from a guy on the constitution, Dr P talked about coming together to finish FS and then the fireworks. Very low turnout this year, maybe just over half the classroom total and just a hanfull of instructors.
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Is anyone going to the Front Sight July 4th seminar with Piazza? Is he having one? I did not receive any notification about it but if you were invited, can you report back?

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Oddly, wife and I didn't either, but I found a guy that did and went. It was at the Sunset Station Casino. He really didn't elaborate on what was said.
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Is anyone going to the Front Sight July 4th seminar with Piazza? Is he having one? I did not receive any notification about it but if you were invited, can you report back?

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I did the 2 day empty hand and 2 day Edged Weapons over the 4th. Under 300 people at Front Sight over the 4th.

FYI lots of bruises in Empty Hand and Edged Weapons class. I was with my friend so we played a little rough. A few times the instructors asked us to "take it easy".
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Old 07-09-2018, 6:16 AM
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No invite for me, but I just joined thanks to aashooter (great guy to deal with by the way).
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Did not see the message In bite this year but no way would I venture out there in the middle of summer anyways.
Look forward to taking more classes in the fall.
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After digging a bit, I found the email and the link to the event.

https://www.frontsight.com/seminar.asp?

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I thought this type of media advertising was not allowed?

https://www.freefourday.com/

https://www.freefourdaycourse.com

http://lifetimeoftraining.com

https://www.facebook.com/lifetimeoftraining/

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^^^ Wow, the guy has gone all out to advertise his membership sale! Pretty slick. Let's see what FS will do. Then we all can do the same LOL

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Looks okay to me . . . no direct offers to sell memberships. You can advertise certificates and advice.
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Silly questions, but does someone know the different membership levels and how they rank? ( I know Ambassador is a step up from Diamond, but what about all the others? If you do a champion pack does it convert say a director to a commander or is director a higher level etc)
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I don't know how many different types of memberships there are at FS. It would not surprise me if there is over 100 different memberships.

Each covers are segment of classes and facilities as well as other benefits. Some of subsets of other memberships and some overlap with other memberships but each may had different features.

To further complicate things, then there are add-ons to the memberships that provide addition offerings. So I think you are best serve to ask about specific memberships and the concierge at FS may be the best place to get a comprehensive answer for your case.

Finally, there are some memberships you can purchase from other Front Sight members to upgrade your membership. Generally existing members can not upgrade through other members; however, there are exceptions.
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Good answer. In addition, Diamond and above allow you to take all the classes at Pahrump. I think anything above Diamond may allow classes at other facilities as well.
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Good answer. In addition, Diamond and above allow you to take all the classes at Pahrump. I think anything above Diamond may allow classes at other facilities as well.
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I can't recall all the levels or might be mixing up the ones that are add-ons... I listed the ones I've participated in or heard of since joining FS:

Communicator (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
Liberty Tree* (Access to only the intro classes for Handgun, Shotgun, Rifle)
Patriot (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
Legacy (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
Diamond (All class access to Vegas)
Diamond+Alaska* (Added access to Alaska - considered an add-on)
Platinum (This was an old school membership before my time, so don't know what they included)
Ambassador* (added classes to any current and future facility)
Executive* (added Free Hotel Room Rentals and RV Space Rentals - there were different levels of Executive)
Guardian* (Add-on - not sure there was any significant addition, maybe making it will able?)
Patron* (Unlimited stay at the resort, 1st in/out, will, ammo club add-on. I did it cause it doubled my account holdings)
Commander* (I think this might have replaced Executive/Patron? Resort stays when you train. Includes ammo and guns at cost add-ons)
Director (might be considered an add-on depending on your current level, adds Front Sight TV)
President* (Added private or private group training based on level)
Heritage* (Timeshare reservation and future private training when the resort is done?)

* indicates the ones I've participated in... I don't plan to follow through with Heritage though. He gave the option to cancel and revert back when it's time to collect.

Champion isn't' a membership or add-on. He called it Champion Club. It's a money grab for him... you get "recognition" and a coin and pin and whatever promo offers for buying a certain amount.

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I can't recall all the levels or might be mixing up the ones that are add-ons... I listed the ones I've participated in or heard of since joining FS:

Communicator (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
Liberty Tree* (Access to only the intro classes for Handgun, Shotgun, Rifle)
Patriot (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
Legacy (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
Diamond (All class access to Vegas)
Diamond+Alaska* (Added access to Alaska - considered an add-on)
Platinum (This was an old school membership before my time, so don't know what they included)
Ambassador* (added classes to any current and future facility)
Executive* (added Free Hotel Room Rentals and RV Space Rentals - there were different levels of Executive)
Guardian* (Add-on - not sure there was any significant addition, maybe making it will able?)
Patron* (Unlimited stay at the resort, 1st in/out, will, ammo club add-on. I did it cause it doubled my account holdings)
Commander* (I think this might have replaced Executive/Patron? Resort stays when you train. Includes ammo and guns at cost add-ons)
Director (might be considered an add-on depending on your current level, adds Front Sight TV)
President* (Added private or private group training based on level)
Heritage* (Timeshare reservation and future private training when the resort is done?)

* indicates the ones I've participated in... I don't plan to follow through with Heritage though. He gave the option to cancel and revert back when it's time to collect.

Champion isn't' a membership or add-on. He called it Champion Club. It's a money grab for him... you get "recognition" and a coin and pin and whatever promo offers for buying a certain amount.
First, that was a great rundown of what was offered over time. I can add a couple of tidbits to the above.

Ambassador - this allowed you to provide dry fire (Front Sight endorsed) training at your facility. You could charge for this.

Guardian - This was the first membership offered where this class of members would be the "guardians of FS" after Dr. P. retired. The place would be turned over to this class of membership. At the time it was the highest. This was also the first membership with special access to a TBD club on the famous outcrop overlooking the facility. Special place name engraved on the monument. VIP benefits and so forth.

Either right after or right before Guardian, he offered the hotel endorsement. This add-on gave you free hotel rooms for life.
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