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Old 12-15-2017, 1:20 PM
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Default Smith & Wesson Revolvers Cops carried from the 1950's through the 1980's

Hello there fellow Calgunners, I have an obsession with Older Smith and Wesson Revolvers. My personal favorites being from the 1970's and 1980's, just absolute American Classics!

Anyway, on to why I started this thread. I would love to hear from any current or retired Law Enforcement Officers who carried Smith and Wesson Revolvers from the 1950's through the 1980's. Please state what agency you work(ed) for, what Smith and Wesson model you carried, and what years you carried it. Also if you have a picture(s) of your original duty weapon I would love to see them! Thanks and look forward to hearing from you!

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I missed the '80's by one year, but in 1990 I was issued a Model 15, I am still working and the 15 accompanies me to the range for good measure sometimes.
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I don't have anything to contribute but just wanted to bump this thread because it's a great idea!
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San Diego PD issued me a S&W Mod 10 six inch in the academy, 07 - 1981. When I graduated I bought a new S&W Mod 19 six inch. I gave them back their Mod 10. I still have my Mod 19.
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My agency issued the Smith & Wesson model 19 blue 4" barrel.(1976)
I carried a Smith & Wesson model 28 blue 6" barrel, then a 4".
I then carried a Bill Davis Smolt (model 28 frame, 6" python barrel)
I ended my wheel gun carry with a Smith & Wesson 686 4" barrel.
The department converted to Sig 226 9mm's in 1989, then switched to 40 S&W
which they still currently issue.
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When I went to the CHP academy I was issued a

K-38 6 inch and a top draw holster.

In 1980 I purchased a S&W 586, 6 inch.

I still have the 586 and the Hoyt mid shank holster I carried.
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1986, LASD... They issued me a brand new Smith & Wesson model 67 38 Special caliber revolver with 2 speed loaders. When they converted to Beretta 92FS 9mm caliber pistols in late 80s, they let me buy my revolver for $165, I think.
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Old 12-15-2017, 7:34 PM
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I saw an article recently that NYPD finally making the last few holdouts carrying revolvers switch to a semiauto. Not many left. Last ones issued revolvers was like in 1993.

I met a guy in 2001 that still was carrying a S&W model 64 with NYPD. I can't remember last time I saw a LEO carry one as a primary. Maybe in late 1990's-early 2000's with Long Beach PD. I still occasionally see armed security with them. Brinks guards did/do sometimes carry a DAO model 64 I believe.

Some departments went against the norm. Colorado and Florida Highway patrol both issued some Pythons.
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I left the local Sheriff's Dept in 1973 where I carried a Colt .38 spl revolver. I was hired by a city police department in southern Alameda County. At that time you had to buy your own stuff - everything!

So I treated myself to a brand new S&W Model 19, with a four inch barrel. I carried it from April 1973 until 1985 at which time I bought a new Beretta 92F to carry on duty. About a year later, the department started issuing us our duty sidearm which happened to be a 92F.

I sold my Model 19 to one of our Reserve Officers but she still owns it and has declined to sell it back to me. But I appreciate that it's in good hands.
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I started with a model 10 then graduated to the model 19, model 66 and finally a 6" 686. I loved all of them.
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I was issued a S&W Model 15 Combat Masterpiece with a 4" blued barrel while in the academy in 1976 . It had been issued before because the trigger was very smooth and the rear sight had a small piece removed from the left side. I surmised it had been dropped. I knew better than to complain about the damage or to request a different one.

When we went to the Beretta 92F in late 1989, early 1990, I bought it for $150. I wanted to buy the gun that micro911 was issued because I really like Stainless guns, but they only permitted the buying of the one issued to you. I was more than willing to pay the $15 dollar difference between the two and even tho there was a drawer full of the 67 model from those deputies who did not want to buy theirs, they refused to sell me one.

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We were issued a S&W Model 15 Combat Masterpiece with a 4" blued barrel. When we went to the Beretta 92F in late 1989, early 1990, I bought it for $150. I wanted to buy the gun that micro911 was issued because I really like Stainless guns, but they only permitted the buying of the one issued to you.

I was more than willing to pay the $15 dollar difference between the two and even tho there was a drawer full of the 67 model from those deputies who did not want to buy theirs, they refused to sell me one.
What became of the excess ones? I did come across a LASD marked model 15 this year in a local auction house. Ironically it was not available to non roster exempt people because it had been purchased or consigned from someone that had it in a collections out of state.

I came across a OCSD model 66 in Arizona last year I passed the info to a friend in Colorado that collects PD marked guns but he didn't want to deal with having it shipped.

I have come across S&W model 68's and Remington 870's marked OHB. This was an overstamp when CHP sold them off.

I don't really collect such guns but have had a few come though my collection. Only one I think I have right now is a 38 S&W Victory model marked by a post WW2 West German police force.
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LA County Sheriff, 1978 thru 2011. I was issued a Smith and Wesson Model 15 but shortly after going to Patrol I purchased a Model 66 that I carried until I was issued a Beretta 92f around 1988. Around 2009 I purchased an HK P2000 that I carried until retirement. I bought an M&P 9 before I retired but never got to carry it. It’s my favorite. I still have All except the HK.
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LAPD Reserve (1980-2010). Issued a S&W K-38 but opted for my personal S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman with a 4" barrel. Although I qualified with the 9mm's and .45's, I carried the Model 28 for all 30 years.
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LASD 1979 issued a S &W 15. After custody and in Patrol, I bought a S&W 586 and had it Hard chrome finished. Carried that until issued a Beretta.
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Seriously... without pictures how am I to show the new boots what an old service revolver looks like?
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A S&W 686 6" and on occasion, a Python (which I screwed up and sold) before going to a G17.

I have a Hoyt for a 4" K-Frame if anyone is interested.
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'62 thru '97....................three year break for Uncle Sam.............

All these are (were) personally owned: M/15.....two M/19's.....a couple of M/36's mixed in there....(blued). The 15 and 19's were (are nickle)

Still have my 1960 19 (no dash) with Roper grips (how many of you youngsters ever heard of him?).

Leather was SD Myers, Jordan style.

When I started it took you about a month plus just to get out of the start up debt!! You bought ALL your own gear!


Forgot to mention a '4"66 I bought when they first hit the scene. Never did like the thing and it went to finance a new deer rifle. QC on many of the first issue was problematic and I noted more than one we had that'd experience cylinder drag.

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Although I was issued a S&W model 67, I used it in the academy only. When I graduated, I used my personal model 586. Then I bought a Hoyt holster. It was a good combination. I also bought a Nelson holster, but I was issued a Beretta 92FS even before I had a chance to use a newly bought Nelson holster.
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Along time ago, I had the opportunity to go through some old issued wheel guns, they were S&W beautifully blued model 15s and stainless steel 66s.

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I came along well after the revolvers were replaced by autos. However, I would have felt fine about carrying my beloved 6" Model 19-4.
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Santa Clara S/O June '81 academy. Issued 4" Mod 19. It was taken away for the massive "cylinder locked up due to magnum loads" recall and replaced with a 2 1/2" ish 19 with which to qualify. Still shot a 300....because my eyes could see that far then.
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1968 I was issued a Smith Mdl 15. 9 months later bought a Mdl 19. I bought a used Smith Mdl 49 bodyguard off off another Ofcr for $40. I was my backup for 30 yrs. In those day carried in right rear pocket that was lined with a piece of soft leather
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LAPD Reserve (1980-2010). Issued a S&W K-38 but opted for my personal S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman with a 4" barrel. Although I qualified with the 9mm's and .45's, I carried the Model 28 for all 30 years.
That is neat you never hardly hear of anybody carrying or having been issued a N frame S&W. I think Georgia state patrol issued some in 45 LC and NY state police the model 520 I think?
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Ocsd reserves, harbor patrol 1983 SW 4in model 66, still have and shoot it today
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It isn't hard to figure out why pre-lock S&W revolvers cost 2x on the used market what they sold for new, even adjusting for inflation.
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Gotta love these old revolvers!
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Academy in 1985. Had a choice of a 4" S&W 67 or a 6" S&W 68. I chose a 4" 67 and went to a 686 after probation. Wish I still had me 67.
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Here are my handguns.

1. 1986 issue S&W model 67 38 Special revolver. Dept let me buy it for $165 when we went to Beretta 92FS.

2.1989 issue Beretta 92FS. Dept let me buy it for $370 with 2 mags. when we went to M&P9.

3. 2013 issue S&W M&P9. When I retired, Dept let me buy it for $430 with 5 mags, Surefire X300 Ultra weapon light, and Safariland duty holster.
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My dad bought the top one when he became a detective in the mid 1950's
and caried till about 6 years ago when his hands became too unsteady.

The bottom one he bought when he made sergeant and went back to patrol in the early 1960's.

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Thanks to everyone who has responded so far! I've really enjoyed reading your issued and carried weapons, very interesting. Also a special thanks for those who posted photos! Keep them coming!
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Oh, also..Not a revolver, but....My department changed over to Remington 870 from Ithaca model 37 and 87 a few years ago. They had drawings for those Ithaca shotguns and sold them to individual deputies. I was lucky to be drawn for one. It was kind of raggedy looking, but mechanism was pretty solid. I decided to keep it as is, and not refinish it.

Now I have all 4 firearms that I had my hands on during my 30 years.
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My dad retired as a Hayward Police Reserve Officer in the early 1980's before they carried semi-auto pistols. He carried an N frame model 58 in 41 magnum most of the time but sometimes carried a model 28 in 357 magnum. He carried a model 19 and sometimes a chiefs special for a back up gun. He was on the Hayward Reserve Police Pistol team in the early 1970's and used the 41 and 357 to take home a bunch of trophy's. I don't have any of his guns unfortunately, but I do have boxes and boxes of trophy's from those days.
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My father was Oakland PD from 69 to the 80s. Carried the 57 .41 Cal from around 78 and on. After he passed I tracked it down.
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It pains me dearly that many of these trade in pistols are off roster.
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This was issued to the USBP sometime in the mid 80s.
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This was issued to the USBP sometime in the mid 80s.
For some reason I think this is my favorite posted so far in this thread
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I bought a model 67-2 and 15-4 for less than $800 6 months ago. I don't mean under 800 per gun I mean both combined.... they're easily my favorite revolvers ever. The DA triggers on these hand fitted old smiths make you realize why people we're so hesitant to transition to semi autos. They're indescribably great.

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LA Co Muni Agency - 1980 - 2006 ---Carried a Nickle plated 4" Model 19. One night after completing a Felony Car Stop in the early '80s just outside of the Projects, one of the bad guys said to me, "I would have been proud to have been shot by that gun!" A definite cool factor in the Nickle - to the Dead on Balls accurate Model 19!
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