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I dont know about recently but back in the day if you didnt have a MEPS near by you could get in with the the OK of a physician. Maybe something like that happened there , it is an old photo
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Here's another poser, Elizabeth McKenzie: She pretended to be an Afghan war veteran.
http://www.startribune.com/local/119...tml?page=1&c=y
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I carry my challenge coin everywhere, it's in the front left pocket of my jeans now. I consider it a "lucky piece" and won't leave home without it.
Carry one or not, if you don't have yours or you're REMF slow, you're gonna owe me a drink! 11Bforme has the right responce (IMHO), just ask a few pertinent questions on where, when, what unit, & maybe weapons. If they are posers, they usually won't have a clue. I've outed a few people this way - I've never made a scene over it but, I've had "chats" with several coworkers at one time or another. And I certainly wouldn't post a copy of my DD214. Google your name or forum handle, every thing you've ever written or posted will come up. Try it. Bruce
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Nope tried it. Nothing shows up unless you like a Metal Band song called Outta Control. I tried my name and I did get my Facebook page. Nothing earth shocking.
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LOL! Gotta love it!
On a side note Wil Willis the star of Special Ops Mission is a legit. Ex-Ranger and Ex-PJ he got some skills there. http://press.discovery.com/us/mil/talent/willis-wil/
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Mine is in my wallet.
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I've come across posers before as well. It's usually at bars when it happens. Usually some guy claiming to be or have been in the military and tell stories about "combat" to try and impress girls or something. A few occasions i would overhear them talking about the military and would be genuinly interested but after a few questions with no real answers i'd call their bluff which leaves them pretty embarrassed.
Recently i was visiting a buddy in North Carolina when he told me about some dude on one of the forums claiming to be HIM. Not just lying about being the the service but to go as far as claim to be him PARTICULARLY!! He found out from his buddy who was part of that forum and called him to tell him what was going on. The members on the forum were able to call his bluff by asking him particular questions that he either couldnt produce or was totally wrong.
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I see they still pay you guys the same way they paid us.
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He could have joined the Marine Corps at 17 and gotten his degree while in the service and then when his enlistment ended went to OCS for the Army. Then he could have gotten injured in the Army and medically retired. I know that is a long shot, but it is possible right? (can one of you vets answer this, please). Seems like he would have still had to have gotten out really recently for that to happen though. Probably since your ex has known him. |
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Did the Marines ever do the "try a year" or two-year (active, six reserve) enlistments like the Army did at one point? Just curious. That would have left him no time to get a degree so he could commission though, either way. |
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chuck norris invented "the total gym" Frank Dux invented "The Total Package" anyways....I cant believe people actually have the nerve to pretend they are in the military. That out of control. |
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I have said it before and will say it again, the odds of somebody lying about having served their country vs. you being totally wrong and insulting someone who did are not in your favor. So do not assume they are lying. Nothing could dishonor yourself more than to accuse a vet of lying about his service. Vets derserve your respect, not your accusations. If you have doubts, keep them to yourself. The odds are you're wrong, and will only end up acting like the biggest jackass on the planet if you act on it. I have only had one person be stupid enough to call me and the people I was with liars when someone told him we were military. He felt our hair was too long so we must be lying. Words can not describe how enraged I and my fellow servicemen that were with me became. It was an incredibly terrible feeling to have our honor questioned like that. Last edited by tacticalcity; 05-07-2011 at 5:53 PM.. |
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are you affraid to show your age?
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Naw. I'm 43. I retired when I was 42. I went in at the ripe old age of 18. Kinda of scary when I see it in print.
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i'm 40 and been in for 23 yrs. and can't retire due my civilian job tied to the Reserves. i want to retire and keep my job but it's not happening just yet.
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Chuck Norris reads Maxim magazine, Maxim magzine reads Frank Dux
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The ARMY offers the IPAP medical program which is two years long at FSH. If you successfully complete the program you get a Masters Degree on the civilian side of things and supposedly now as of 2010 you get a Captain rank . I think it used to be 1LT before
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So the dude is a Marine, an Army Captain, and a doctor? By 24? No wonder she went for him, guy's going places
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let me start by saying i have no military experience at all. tc i can tell you i have a friend who was a marine (special forces) in iraq desert storm. when he came back he couldnt deal with dc he started drinking and doing all kinds of drugs. he would put on his uniform and walk around the block at all hours of the night. the experience messed him up in the head. it society take away from being a marine or him serving his country. guys if you know somebody is a poser you dont have to call him out swallow your pride and laugh inside. you never know just who your calling out. |
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Frank Dux = Won
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Remember the old saying? "The BS stops when the hammer drops"
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I was a Reservist/NG and can't remember either of the units I was in. Of course, if I really needed to remember, I could always pull my paperwork. It's in there - but it's not important enough to memorize. My MOS even changed a couple times - 19__. Again, not important enough to remember. I do - for some reason - remember my OSUT class number from Ft. Knox, though. Maybe it's because I had to scream it everyday.... On another note - IIRC the Stolen Valor Act was deemed unconstitional.
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As a side note, one of the brothers was involved in a rather famous incident along the Pakistan border. He and his teammates were arrested and violently beaten by Pakistani police simply for being US Private Contractors. Never mind that the US state department hired them to be there and their government consented to it as well. They could have resisted and fought, but then they would be dead. They were out numbered and out armed. The State Department eventually secured their release. But I cannot imagine that a few months in a Pakistani prison does much for your mental state. I respect and admire both men greatly, so I am not mentioning their names. I simply wanted to point out that a lot of guys who serve in harms way come back with issues you can't always see. As for appearances, I personally deployed with Army Rangers, Army Special Forces, Navy Seals, and Marines. They come in all shapes and sizes. From the little tiny nerdy twig you used to bully in gym class to the really big fat guy who looks like he is one twinky away from a heart attack. Most of them fall somewhere in the middle, but they do have the occassional exception. So before you get in somebody's face because you think he wasn't really a Ranger or a Seal, make sure your dental plan is paid up. Fat, skinny, or whatever...he is gonna kick your rear. I will say, that after my little incident many years back that almost landed myself and my buddies in jail I decided to keep my now expired military ID in my wallet. Just to shut some jerk up if starts to mouth off. As for challenge coins, I always thought they were lame. I had a couple issued to me. They make a nice little collectors item, but that is about it. Nobody ever actually pulled them out and slapped them on the bar. That was way too Hollywood for us. That in itself seems a little poserish to me. Not posing to be military, but posing to be a badass. If any pulled that on me and my buddies we would definately make him buy the round just for being so GI Jane. Last edited by tacticalcity; 05-09-2011 at 12:32 PM.. |
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@TC I have no doubts that there would issues from the example both of you have placed but I should have clarified it a little more. I would believe that the ration of Spec Ops folks that results with mental issues would be a very small percentage.
BTW: I still have my active duty ID. They forgot to ask for it when I left Langley.
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I have two military IDs. One of the really old ones n green (active duty) that was laminated, and then a newer hard print card in red I got when I seperated from active duty and entered the reserves. The laminated one is so beatup it looks like it is from Vietnam. The newer card one looks brand new after 12 years of being in my wallet (including several trips through the washing machine). As I understand it the IDs are totally different now. More like smart cards. They store information about you right on the card, and can be used as your digital pass key for secure military installations. Not sure they have been released to every member of every branch of service yet. But they are coming. So our old IDs will stand out. Newer generation guy's probably won't be able to recognize them at all. Last edited by tacticalcity; 05-09-2011 at 1:28 PM.. |
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Agreed. I have a buddy of mine trying to be a LEO and was screen-out because they were afraid that he would suffering from PTSD. I mean the guy was a Marine w/ a purple heart or goodness sakes. Anyways he got into a better agency in my book and he seems very happy there.
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Hell yeah there was overweight people on active duty in my unit. IIRC it is a flag on their record but waiver-able, thus they are eligible for promotion. Once you are in and get to you permanent station your service longevity is going to depend on your work ethic, or ability suck up to the higher up's. You can be chapterd out for being overweight but unless you are a complete turd you will be fine. hell that was the only thing that really struck a nerve with me: a lazy fat (FAT!) SSG telling me that my PT scores need improvement. S*I!, I could smoke you on any PT test and you are giving me flak. Pfft OK. |
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Interesting read: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_seal_sleuths
SEAL sleuths expose those who've faked service By DAVID SHARP, Associated Press PORTLAND, Maine – As long as there have been Navy SEALs, there have been men pumping up their resumes or thumping their chests in bars with bogus claims of being one of the Navy's elite warriors. The latest crop includes a Pennsylvania minister who let his congregation believe he was a SEAL and repeated the lie to a newspaper, and there's no sign of such bogus claims abating anytime soon, especially after a secretive team of Navy SEAL commandos killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden. A retired Navy SEAL from Virginia who devotes much of his time to outing the phonies said he's receiving 40 to 50 inquiries a day from people suspicious of claims by friends, neighbors or colleagues who say they're SEALs. Their doubts are usually confirmed with just a few checks. The Naval Special Warfare Command also receives a steady stream of inquiries about possible SEALs, the vast majority of which are debunked, said Lt. Cate Wallace, spokeswoman for the command in California. And Larry Bailey, a retired SEAL from Chocowinity, N.C., estimates he and friends who are former SEALs have exposed 35,000 phonies through the years. "There were about 500 SEALs that operated in Vietnam, and I've met all 20,000 of them," joked Steve Waterman, a retired Navy diver from South Thomaston. Wannabes lie to get free beers, to get women into bed, to further their civilian careers or to get military benefits. But what really bugs retired SEAL Don Shipley is that they're stealing someone else's valor — credit due to those who put themselves in harm's way. "The more outrageous a story is, in a lot of cases, the more it's believed. These guys do a terrible amount of damage," said Shipley, of Chesapeake, Va. It's easy to see why folks look up to the SEALs, trained to fight on sea, air and land, because they undergo some of the toughest military training in the world. Out of each group of SEAL recruits, 70 percent fail to make it through a six-month training course that's a test of mental and physical toughness, Wallace said. Those who become bona fide SEALs wear a gold trident. There are just 2,500 on active duty, many serving in the world's most dangerous places. What's especially frustrating about people who have been exposed as frauds, Bailey said, is when they continue lying about their service. Wallace said that those who are blatant in their deception or threaten the public safety are turned over to the U.S. attorney's office for investigation. In Pennsylvania, the Rev. Jim Moats from the Christian Bible Fellowship Church in Newville was called out by Shipley after he was quoted in The Patriot-News of Harrisburg talking about his life as a SEAL in Vietnam. Later, he admitted he lied. "It's an ego-builder, and it's just simply wrong," Moats told the newspaper. He didn't return a call from The Associated Press. Moats has plenty of company. These days, Bailey and several others are exposing phonies through a website, stolenvalor.com. Waterman, a website participant, said it's easy to ferret out the real deal from the phonies. Dead giveaways are loose tongues and bravado; SEALs are discreet, Waterman said. Waterman, author of the book "Just a Sailor," never had any desire to become a SEAL. "I watched them train. That was scary enough for me," he said. Shipley agreed that SEALs don't talk about their exploits. "It makes us uncomfortable," he said. "We don't like talking about it. But these (phonies), that's what they crave. They like talking about cutting people's throats." Shipley is one of a handful of former SEALs entrusted with a database that shows those who've graduated from SEAL training. The public also can make inquiries with the Navy, which keeps personnel files in Tennessee and Washington, D.C., Wallace said. Last weekend, several dozen SEALs joined together as a Navy warship was christened at Maine's Bath Iron Works in the name of Lt. Michael Murphy, a SEAL officer killed in Afghanistan. Murphy scrambled into a clearing, exposing himself to a hail of Taliban gunfire in order to get a clear signal to call in reinforcements during a firefight on June 28, 2005. He was shot and later died along with two other members of his SEAL team and another 16 rescuers whose helicopter was shot down. Nathanael "Lalo" Roberti, a former SEAL, was supposed to be on the helicopter that was shot down. He and seven others were ordered off because it was too heavy. "I lost 11 of the best friends I've ever known, and some of the best men America has to offer," said Roberti, who lives in San Diego. "These guys are the tip of the spear."
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There are people who are going to heavy no matter how much they exercise. They are the guys who make up an offensive and defensive line on just about every high school and college football team in America. Calling those guy's lazy is ridiculous. They work their behinds off everyday, just as much or more than the skinny guys on the team. They usually are a lot tougher as well. A lot of those guys go on to join the military. They keep up their work ethic and physical fitness level, but also keep on the weight. Then some guy who can eat nothing but junk food and sit on the couch all day long and never put on weight calls them lazy. Meanwhile that heavyset guy is ten times the Airman, Sailor, Soldier or Marine they are. It is called genetics. Guy's with a stong enough work ethic and mindset can overcome their fat gene and tough out those long runs and endurance tests, even with the weight that just won't go away. I personally was on the skinny side back in my military days. Not so much any more. But I did serve with guys that were heavyset and had ten times the work ethic as the jerks who were ridding them about their weight. I watched very skinny people make fun of those guys, for being "fat" and question how they ever made it into our particular unit. Then when did our morning PT and came to the five mile run. Those skinny people (usually smokers) where lagging way behind and hating life while the fat guys were near the front and doing just fine. My point is, fitness level is not just about how much weight you are carrying. Mental toughness and a strong work ethic are a lot more important than appearances. Last edited by tacticalcity; 05-11-2011 at 10:36 AM.. |
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