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That means almost nothing.....
There are only 200,000+/- Marines....there are 1.5 million in the Army. That there were a few bad eggs in Army means almost nothing in the context of the numbers.... My Dad is a Marine....served 2 tours in Vietnam in the 1/5 Marines as a scout/sniper....so I respect them. I served in the Army Infantry...and not because I couldn't cut it as a Marine...lol. I know some guys that were Marines that were some of the stupidist people I know....but I know some from the Army that were just as dumb too. And I can find Marine deviants too: Quote:
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The Army Recruiters are like "SHARKS" they will do just about anything to make a quota it seems. I simply was pointing out that the guy who was kicked out of the Corps' boot camp, could just go into the Army; this was not meant to bruise so many female genitals. Unfortunately the egos of some construe it as such. I have an associate that was kicked out of the Navy under "other than honorable" circumstances. He is currently in the Army. So what? Does this bother Army types? Apparently it does. Again, if you want to serve but don't meet the standard in another service (be it the AF, USMC etc) the Army is an viable option. |
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Yes, There is nothing wrong in joining any branch, Audie Murphy is a war hero and he tried different branches and ended up in the army. He did great things!!
I have worked with all the services minus Coast Guard in the combat zone. I can tell you that they are good in what they do. We the Marines are too. If you want to serve then look for the ones you're qualified to go to. Just remember to join for a good reason. |
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Your "facts" are actually not "facts" at all. DoD sets the accessions standards for each branch of service, they are basically the exact same across the board except for the AFQT. For the Army 31, the Marine Corps 32, Navy 35, Air Force 36). A five point difference between all the branches, which in reality, if you arent cutting over a 50, you are pretty stupid. All branches have basically the same standards for waivers etc., capped at a certain PERCENTAGE, which means if course, that since the Army is the largest branch, will have the highest number of waivers. Im not sure why you have such an attitude about Soldiers and the Army when the facts are that the Army carries the heavy load because the other branches cant. Why dont you break it down and let us know why you have such a piss poor attitude. Are you one of those "frogmen" that couldnt hack it in Ranger School? |
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Wow- the Army has a bunch of cry babies. Ranger School? I did enjoy taking the boots to Ranger wannabee's at Ft Benning when I had to go through "Airborne" back in the day. The odds were stacked against them though 1 of us to every 4-5 of them. I only know of one Team Guy who went through Ranger School, he was the class honorman. His name was David Goggins, you may have heard of him. I need not starve myself or become puny by attending the Ranger School. HOT Chicks don't dig the pencil neck geek look nor the stupid hair cuts. |
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Could you clarify that a bit? I'm not sure what you are asking.
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Your ego and feelings about your apparent branch of service has blinded you to my response to the OP. I would repeat myself but at this point I feel it would be quite moot. Carry on. |
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Sure, I laughed out loud at the implication (by the way you phrased that sentence) that you were perhaps not a "real man", but instead some sort of unreal "FROGMAN". Than I posted a picture of what I thought this "FROGMAN" might look like, which also made me laugh. Also your branch cool-aid drinking makes me laugh. All the branches play a part in the overall defense strategy, no branch is really "better" than any other.
So now that we have established that, what did you mean James?
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you get kicked out being a jackass. its not like the marine corps infantry is in a hurry to turn people down right now. and it doesnt matter what he thinks about the situation because its done. instead of re enlisting, i recommend he grows up and realizes violence isnt fun or something to be glorified. |
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Also thought that you were making an attempt call me out as a BSer; but because you choose to go by names- you also apparently know my background; but from what source(?). Last edited by ST5MF; 11-28-2009 at 1:50 PM.. |
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Many reasons for not making it thru Basic.
Where did he enlist, east or west area? One goes to San Diego, other goes to Parris Island. Have not read the whole thread, some off the wall, mentality... What is not said about why he did not make it, is the reason for it, as a rule. If he got a general discharge or The point here is no one really knows...Let it go Regards
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what i want to know is can you work it? can you flip it down and reverse it...i don't think so!
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Will you guys quit messing with Commander Marcinko and bring this back on topic?
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I had a great time in boot camp. My dad was an old school Gunny. His MOS was air and naval gunfire liaison company officer (ANGLICO).
I never had much appreciation for that job until I understood what it took to get those gold jump wings. I also didn't realize why he knew how to use a slide rule so well. He had a dozen or so high shooter awards from his Company. He called my beloved M-16 a Mattel. Bootcamp was like a vacation. We had a recruit among us that was a bit older than the rest of us. Lewis was 29. The last age accepted at the time. Lewis thought he was the top dog and to make his attitude even worse, was from NYC. Lewis started to act like he was a drill instructor when they made him our guide. I think it was the proudest moment of his life. He had the strange habit of pulling out his pecker and swinging it like a pocket watch when the drill instructor was on the other side of the squadbay. You couldn't help but laugh. I had cuts on the inside of my mouth from biting down on the insides of my cheeks to keep from laughing. I had enough of that! One night I had fire watch. I grabbed Lewis boot and took it into the head. I unlaced it all of the way open and tied about 10 or so knots in each lace and put it back on his foot locker. Morning came. Lights came on. GET ON LINE!!! Pocket watch routine. Then, Get dressed! He saw the boot and knew that it was over. Lewis took too long fighting the knots. The drill instructors were on him like "white on rice" One in each ear. No longer our guide, he was just one of us. |
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Nice post. I shows your "intellect." |
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But you feel the need to take snive little jabs at people....very telling of your self esteem level. Theres nothing wrong with being proud of your service or accomplishments.
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His pop's must have been really set back by this. Too bad. Back in 94 when I went to MCRD (Marine Corps boot camp) they weren't letting anybody go. I would imagine it is even harder (current war) now to get discharged out of boot camp. This kid definitely did some things that weren't good to go. If you ever find out the truth please post.
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You have little faith friend.
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So I went over there for Thanksgiving...
He got his DD-214. It was a General Discharge under Honorable Conditions. He was doing very well at first... The turning point was when a DI pushed a button my cousin didn't want pushed. Story is the DI found his bible. In the bible was a picture of his father being used as a book mark. His father was in his Army uniform holding a rifle when he was in Korea in 88 (His father was a Cav Scout). The DI threw the bible across the room with the picture in it, then asked who the man was...my cousin lost it and basically told him to go F*** himself... |
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I had seen plenty of that stuff in boot camp, the DI is looking for your button and they will find it. It took them a week or so to find mine, I was bent but kept my mouth shut. Seems like they go after girlfriends, moms, etc. but they do a pretty good job of making sure you dont take anything personally from day one. ALthough they are very professional they are always throwing curve balls. Yellow brick road. Jokers wild Squad bay east/west human swab racing the guys who went through know what I mean.
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I only know a few DIs but if the guy was already showing signs of his out burst then maybe it was a plan on the teams part. DIs do wacky things but almost all of it can be called training of some sort...not all but most.
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He lost his bearing over something he shouldn't have. You have to be able to let that stuff roll off your back or the USMC doesn't want you. That close to graduation and he didn't have the mental discipline to put a cork in it? Yep, bye-bye.
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While else would they "drop you" like they do. Hence the "yellow brick road" Im sure we are thinking the same thing.
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He got a DD214 General, under Honorable, now he will get a Tattoo, and say he was in the Corps,
I know others that have done it... Hmmm
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Thanks for keeping us updated Harley.
Very sad sequence of events. I hope his family is there for him and help him along the way. Maybe he should have kept the photograph inside a Koran (I kid, I kid). (^_^). |
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lock chains Waterbowl IT 2 sheets and a blanket |
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, Yep
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i got kicked out of marine corp boot camp too..
its actually not that hard to get kicked out of the Marine Corp right now considering hoe full it is...and the guys probably telling the truth
i was also written up for many bogus allegations how ironic i found this forum while searching google for what i should do after being "kicked out of boot camp" i've gone through various phases since my also "not bad" discharge...angry they kicked me out, not wanting to go back, wanting to go back...etc i dunno what to do-- I dont want to join the Army but i don't want to sit around and wait to be eligible for rejoin marine corp boot camp is not hard. i got out on november 24th 09 |
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