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Old 06-10-2009, 8:45 PM
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So this guy comes into the store today wanting to look at pistols. He is about to go take his HSC test to get it out of the way but he starts asking about the FN 9mm on my shelf. I show it to him and start explaining all the cool things that FNH brings to life but he stops me and says, "I know, I'm in the Army."
I respond, "Cool, whats your MOS?"
Him, "Eleven x-ray."
Me, "so you havent gone to basic yet?"
Him, "no Ive been in for years."
Me, "Hmmmm, Eleven x-"[he cuts me off]
him, "im in the infantry."
me, "well xray is undecided."
him, "no, its special forces."
me, "so they changed it from eighteen series in the past six months?" [that was the last time I knew anyone who was on their way to selections]
him, "yeah, they changed it. you can ask my friend, he is a recruiter."
Me smirking, "well if you have your military ID you dont have to take the test. that could save you twenty five bucks."
Him starting to strum his fingers nervously, starts to talk about his wife getting mad about him getting a pistol and then wonders out.


HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THAT STUFF? I could never fathom in my mind to try to take credit for something I never did. I thought it was funny but didnt have the chance to ask him about benning

Anyone have any stories where you oust someone from the, "I'm SEAL, MARSOC, SF, Ranger, Recon, PJ, 007" lines?
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The best one I got was a dude trying to sincerely tell me that his SEAL buddies (this guy is Navy) carry .50 desert eagles. LOL
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My SMR unit recruits with Guard units a lot. At the Long Beach Grand Prix we were out there, and there was a guy from the 19th Group out with us. He and I got to talking basically all day, and you WOULD NOT BELIEVE the amount of people that would come up out of nowhere and claim they were SF, only to get debunked the whole time and then brush it off as "oh well, there is no record of me anyway"...

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that ain't nothing.. my co-worker who is 69 years and he was in 3 different wars. Korean, Vietnam and Desert storm and he told me he was a MASTERCHIEF in the USMC.
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Rangers qualify on FN FNP 9, you're just misinformed.

SF use 11 MOS for coverup, X for 'expert'.
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i flew have blue before. i also was a member of blue light, we use desert eagles as manpads.
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The oldest soldier to died in Iraq this past month was also a Vietnam vet - So some of that could be believable -

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that ain't nothing.. my co-worker who is 69 years and he was in 3 different wars. Korean, Vietnam and Desert storm and he told me he was a MASTERCHIEF in the USMC.
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The oldest soldier to died in Iraq this past month was also a Vietnam vet - So some of that could be believable -
He was a Major. They have different retirement ages for officers, depending on the grade.
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I've never understood why people do that kind of thing. I have friends that are the same way with girls in a bar, but I was never comfortable telling a girl that I was an astronaut, race car driver or whatever. If anything, I'd lie the other way - that I'm some nobody, regular joe-schmoe.

When I was at Davis we used to go to The Grad every Friday for 7 for 1 drinks (and country night too ). Since our group was 2 or 3 day-a-week regulars, we'd always get the biggest table on the patio so we could chain smoke, chain drink AND do it while sitting down. It was kinda "our" spot, so we'd get a little territorial unless it involved girls, of course.

So one time this guy we'd never seen sat down with us and since we were discussing AK's or AR's (one or the other - mind you, it was a drunken conversation 9 years ago), he felt like he wanted to butt in. And then he went off on how he was a marine scout sniper. We let him go on and on, I didn't buy it and I don't think my friend did either. The thing that got me was he kept talking about a bolt action .223 or something-rather. I casually got up and found our other friend, who was a local LEO and reserve Marine (he did at least 4 on active duty - I can't be sure, but I think Desert Storm). Anyway, he was a Sgt. of some sort and casually walked up to the guy and asked the same question - his MOS. The guy was flabbergasted and then my friend, in a very "sergeantly" way, got up in his face and let the cat out of the bag. He didn't do it in a mean way, but the guy wouldn't make eye contact with him, he looked at his shoes the whole time. He scurried off, tail between his legs. I think I saw him again, but he certainly wasn't too big for his britches that time.
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So I was just at a bar with my buddies and saw some joker being "escorted" out of the place. Long story short I overheard him saying that he was a SEAL and he was pretty much relating all of "The Lone Survivor" to increasingly pissed off bouncers. Idiot, grade A+. Definitely not Luttrell as he was a wiry, all of 5'4", blonde guy.

They are everywhere, but to claim being a SEAL, especially a high profile SEAL, IN SAN DIEGO of all pllaces, is the epitome of douchebaggery that deserved to get more than being shoved out of the bar.
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I've never understood why people do that kind of thing. I have friends that are the same way with girls in a bar, but I was never comfortable telling a girl that I was an astronaut, race car driver or whatever. If anything, I'd lie the other way - that I'm some nobody, regular joe-schmoe.
The guys that do this just have a low self worth. They feel that the only way they are going to be liked is to be what is in their mind the type of person you would readily accept and admire without having to be themselves.

As a flight instructor I would see this all the time from guys who after playing 24 hours solid of MS flight Simulator, they would show up at the flight school bragging about all the things they did in airplanes. One yahoo would even show up in a green nomex flight suit with a clipboard strapped to his leg. It's a sad day indeed when you go to such great lengths to impress a flight instructor.
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I was sitting in a bar down in Mississippi when this kid started bragging about being a SeAL to one of the prettier waitresses. He was going on and on about how many people he killed as a sniper and how he flew helicopters and such. A real SeAL(retired) asked him if he knew so and so, to which the fake SeAL replied, "yes" and what great war buddies they were. The name of the "so and so" was his dogs name. This went on for quite awhile and before long, the whole bar (about five or six of us, two pretty waitresses, and one ugly one) were in on the joke, except for the fake SeAL. He kept going on about all the medals he was awarded and all the lives he saved and after several beers, he finally told us about the time he was invited to the White House to have dinner with the President. We kept encouraging him to tell us some more great stories about all the wars he fought in, and the fake SeAL didn't dissapoint. The stories got crazier and crazier, but he couldn't figure out why everyone was laughing so hard at his stories of heroism and all his secret planning meetings with the President to take out leaders of terroristic regions.

I expected the real SeAL to kick this guys butt, but he never did (that I know of). The kids stories were so fake that it was obvious he was lieing. We just had fun helping him make a fool of himself.
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HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THAT STUFF? I could never fathom in my mind to try to take credit for something I never did. I thought it was funny but didnt have the chance to ask him about benning

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Years ago, I worked Shore Patrol at Long Beach. A few nights a month I'd draw the short straw and have to jail runs and round up the drunks and bring them back. Wish I had a dollar for every jackass who claimed to be someone and ended up in front of "the man" for talking smack and getting froggy trying to back it up. More than a few times we'd end up at LBNH's ER making sure some "snake eater" didn't have internal injuries.
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The guys that do this just have a low self worth. They feel that the only way they are going to be liked is to be what is in their mind the type of person you would readily accept and admire without having to be themselves.
Brutha, I think you're on to something.
Or maybe the OP was just talking to another head case? I heard somewhere that 20% of adults suffer from some form of mental illness every year. That's 40 million folks!
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My two best stories:

1. My co-worker got a divorce from her ex-special forces in Vietman husband. Had all kind of uniforms and medals. None were his. It came up in the divorce that he was never even in the military. He lied for over 15 years.

2. I started working with little guy who was kind of quiet but I knew used to be in the military. He was currently in the guard. One day he was talking about doing HALO jumps, Marine Dive school, Ops with SEAL's and Green Berets, Hi-Speed this and that. When I asked what branch he was in he said Air Force I laughed....then found out he used to be a Combat Controller and it was all true. He has been my best friend for the last few years.

I guess you never know.
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All my best stories start out with "One time at band camp.............."
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Had a car salesman (yes) tell the wife and I all about his 14+ years in the SEALS while we test drove a car. I learned all kinds of cool stuff that I had never known. One example, the S&W 44 magnum that his SEAL buddies got him, is SO POWERFUL that he had to aim it at the bad guys knees. Why you ask? Well because the recoil was so insane that by the time the bullet came out of the barrel it was now aimed at the BG's chest
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All my best stories start out with "One time at band camp.............."
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The guys that do this just have a low self worth. They feel that the only way they are going to be liked is to be what is in their mind the type of person you would readily accept and admire without having to be themselves.
I don't think it's about self worth with my friends, it's more about getting some. It's more of a joke - they don't claim to be SEALS or anything like that. If the girl buys that you're an astronaut or a Senator and is therefore willing to sleep with you - more power to you and shucks for her. I had another friend who tried the whole rude "hey, wanna go and *expletive*" thing - he got slapped 99 times, but it worked once so it was worth it to him.
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My two best stories:

1. My co-worker got a divorce from her ex-special forces in Vietman husband. Had all kind of uniforms and medals. None were his. It came up in the divorce that he was never even in the military. He lied for over 15 years.

2. I started working with little guy who was kind of quiet but I knew used to be in the military. He was currently in the guard. One day he was talking about doing HALO jumps, Marine Dive school, Ops with SEAL's and Green Berets, Hi-Speed this and that. When I asked what branch he was in he said Air Force I laughed....then found out he used to be a Combat Controller and it was all true. He has been my best friend for the last few years.

I guess you never know.
You learn something new everyday on this site. While I've heard of the Airforce actually having ground combat troops (vs pilots and support staff), I have never heard of a "Combat Controller" until today. Thanks!
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You learn something new everyday on this site. While I've heard of the Airforce actually having ground combat troops (vs pilots and support staff), I have never heard of a "Combat Controller" until today. Thanks!
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Yup....it's crazy stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Control_Team

The short story is they get attached to SOCOM teams and carry the same gear (plus 100 pounds of radio junk) and do all the bomb calling/fire support as well as help guide air traffic and land planes after places are secure...ish.

Air Force has two other high speed no BS units. PJ's (pararescue-think of a SEAL team full of medics who's sole job is rescue missions) and Combat Weatherman (google it) .
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There are many stories out there, some real, some not. My career was rather unorthodox, and I served with Special Forces, Marines, etc because nowadays "joint ops" is a way of doing business in our military. Not that it matters, but I have awards, certificates and orders in my file to prove it. In my travels, I have been in conversations with many young folks returning from or going to war. However, I usually just keep quiet, and let those young studs be young studs. Bravado is part of the culture, and unit pride is an important thing. I do thank them for their service.

I know I can tell within about 2 minutes if a guy (or gal) is straight-up, telling a few war stories, or is a true imposter. Imposters, those who steal valor of others, should be exposed and dealt with harshly.
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Out 'em.

If at all possible just out 'em. I have no sympathy for poseurs or wannabe's.
I did this to one of my "fellow" engineers at an electronics firm we both worked at. Claimed to be a Navy Seal, in RVN. He didn't stick around much longer.
With a few pertinent questions, it's usually pretty easy to tell if you're hearing bull-*hit. For me, Army service in RVN is pretty easy to figure out.
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I remember in '04 me and some buddies we're at a hotel party in Austin, TX (we were stationed in Ft Hood) and we over heard this Jesus looking guy saying he was Marine recon....yea....sure.
So for laughs I walked up with the "Really?! ME TOO! where you stationed?"
Mind you I was an Army tanker at the time...but c'mon! I couldn't let this go.
So after a small "convincing session" he came clean and left.
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You were an Army tanker? Really? Me too! Where were you stationed?
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that ain't nothing.. my co-worker who is 69 years and he was in 3 different wars. Korean, Vietnam and Desert storm and he told me he was a MASTERCHIEF in the USMC.
I think he meant USNC or whatever the Halo thing is called.

along the lines of this, there is was a question in some gun mag, People of Low moral often claim that: A, were a Navy seal, B, Delta Force, something else( i can't remember) and the correct answer was .... a Green Beret serving with CIA in OEF/OIF.
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Lots of people who bolo'd out or were medically discharged out there too. I know a guy who told me he was a Ranger. Ended up he'd bolo'd out in the first couple of weeks.
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1. My co-worker got a divorce from her ex-special forces in Vietman husband. Had all kind of uniforms and medals. None were his. It came up in the divorce that he was never even in the military. He lied for over 15 years.

2. I started working with little guy who was kind of quiet but I knew used to be in the military. He was currently in the guard. One day he was talking about doing HALO jumps, Marine Dive school, Ops with SEAL's and Green Berets, Hi-Speed this and that. When I asked what branch he was in he said Air Force I laughed....then found out he used to be a Combat Controller and it was all true. He has been my best friend for the last few years.

I guess you never know.
Those are the dangerous guys, the little quite guys who don't have to brag because they've BTDT.

I knew a guy at Loring AFB who I mistook for a boyscout the first time I met him. He was about 5' tall and about 90 lbs. He got a height and weight waiver to join up. He applied to be a cop in basic, and they about laughed at him. They told him if he could convince the Self-Defense Instructor that he wouldn't end up dead because of his size they would allow it. The Instructor told him he was going to put him into a sumbission hold and to try to keep him from doing so. The instructor came to a stop flat on his back about 6 feet from the guy. He hadn't told the instructor that he was a black belt in 3 martial arts and his state wrestling champ in his weight class. Toughest individual I have ever met.
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Those are the dangerous guys, the little quite guys who don't have to brag because they've BTDT.
i also think that come with age i ve seen currant military member talk crap all the time, i mean i use to when i was was younger but as i got older i just want to do a good job, for my guys


edit :::::::not crap like im sf or ranger or anything like that ,,,,just war storys

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You learn something new everyday on this site. While I've heard of the Airforce actually having ground combat troops (vs pilots and support staff), I have never heard of a "Combat Controller" until today. Thanks!
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The two toughest AFSCs in the Air Force are Combat Controller and ParaRescue. Air Force ParaRescue are the only members of the DoD specifically organized, trained and equipped to conduct personnel recovery operations in hostile or denied areas as a primary mission.
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i also think that come with age i ve seen currant military member talk crap all the time, i mean i use to when i was was younger but as i got older i just want to do a good job, for my guys


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I think it depends on branch and type (Ranger/SEAL/Green Beret)

You would never know if the guy shooting next to use was Delta CAG or Green Beret.....

but as James Yeager said once
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I think it depends on branch and type (Ranger/SEAL/Green Beret)

You would never know if the guy shooting next to use was Delta CAG or Green Beret.....

but as James Yeager said once
You know how you have a SEAL in your class? He will tell you...ove and over.
so its not just me about seals
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that ain't nothing.. my co-worker who is 69 years and he was in 3 different wars. Korean, Vietnam and Desert storm and he told me he was a MASTERCHIEF in the USMC.

The Korean war started June 27, 1950 it was 3 years and 1 month long. He was 10 the USMC, good job. Ask to see his ID, it will tell you his rank at retirement.
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