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Old 03-12-2011, 8:22 AM
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I am considering my first build but not interested in 223/556 . I am looking for any sugestions on 308 not looking to spend more than $1200. Also i believe a 18 inch barrel would be prefered. Looking for some help i dont have a lot of experience with the ar other then having a great time shooting the ones my friends own . I think it would be good to build rather then buy a complete plus $$ part by part or at liest in sections i could afford it. I allready have 308 rifles and love the round and am set up for reloading .
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Old 03-12-2011, 8:54 AM
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$1200 is not much of a budget to work with when building a large caliber rifle. Upper assemblies alone run in the range of $700-$1200 Figure a $400 lower & $80 for a LPK and you've already exhausted your budget. You'll still need a stock (and buffer system) and a quality optic system

If you're really stuck on a $1200 budget, you might try looking at bolt-action rifles
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Good luck with a $1200 budget. I don't see anything under $1500. Maybe a DPMS.
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Never built one.. But I heard they go for around $1200 min. Everything you can buy for an AR15 i notice its about 10% more expencive to buy that same part for an AR10
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I would like to stay as close to $1200 as posible but i am not looking to build a piece of crap so i will spend what i have to but not looking for a $2000 ar for the range and fun gun already have m1a and bolt gun so lookin for a progect more or less
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Not possible

I'm in the middle of my AR 308 build, just ordering parts, and I know that I am missing some small parts.

Right now I'n at $2300.00 with Millet LRS 1 scope

If I went wth a Nightforce or something similar, I would easily be over $3000.00
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DPMS makes em for under 1200 but the lowers arent CA legal so you can opt to get a off list lower which there are plenty out there and get everything else via DPMS and still be within budget.

Some of their uppers are in the mid 700.00 range so that leaves you with close to 500.00 for the rest of the build.
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Saw this in person the other day. Obviously not one of your more expensive builds...but something to start with.

http://www.ddsranch.com/cart/index.p...f16g2j5bsiia42
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You can also just purchase FAL-type rifles for well under your budget. Check out Entreprise Arms', they have "blemished" STG58 rifles for $699 ready to go
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What do you want to do with this rifle? Do you want to just use iron sights or do you plan on using an optic? Will it be a "precision" build or just a blaster?


Here is an idea of what things will cost you:

Tactical Machining .308 lower : $230
LPK: $65
DPMS .308 collapsible complete stock kit : $75 http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=238414

Or an A2 type .308 complete stock kit: $95 http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=993474

So right there you have a complete lower, and you will probably have to add $70 or so to that for the DROS and transfer fee. So think roughly $440-$460 for the complete lower.



You can then look for a complete upper at Rguns.com . They seem to have the least expensive .308 uppers on the net, AFAIK. http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-s...pers-308.shtml




Or you could build your upper piece by piece :

DPMS .308 receiver ready for barrel: $185 http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=784553

I would then give black hole weaponry a call and have them set you up with a 18" (Although personally I recommend a 16") barrel for ~~$295 http://www.blackholeweaponry.com/cat...5afb80e26a2629

Plus an Armalite BCG for $239 http://www.762sass.com/product.php?p...86496c8237deb4

This will all be ~~ $719, and it allows you to get what you want while still being ROUGHLY in your price range and you are actually getting good quality stuff.
$460+$719= $1179


You will still need a handguard and a gas block. If you dont need all the bells and whistles, then look at this free float tube from fulton armory http://fulton-armory.com/handguardfl...atternblk.aspx

They also have some cheap gas blocks and other cool upper stuff http://fulton-armory.com/titanupperreceiverparts.aspx


I hope that helps!
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Here is a list of items I have lined up for a rifle. That are about the best prices I have been able to find:
• Tactical Machine .308 Lower ($195)
• DPMS LPK ($60)
• Bullet Button ($ 19)
• RRA Two-stage Trigger ($ 86)
• DPMS LR-308 Upper w/ 18” Chrome Molly Bull Barrel ($600)
• MBUS Gen II Front and Rear Sight ($80)
• DPMS A2 AR-Style .308 Buttstock ($74)
• Shipping ($6)
• DROS

That adds to about $1120 and am still short a few items. $1200 is a tough target to meet.

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I think it depends on what you're planning on doing with it. I'm pretty sure you can get away with $1200 if you plan on using iron sights. But if you want to use it with a scope I think it'll be a little more. Here is what I spent on mines. Going to upgrade trigger and scope mount to Larue SPR, so going to have to add about $400 more to my total .

CMMG lower - $350
DPMS LPK - $65
ACE skeleton stock assembly - $100
Bullet button - $25
Magpul LR308 mag kit - $25
Fulton armory titan complete upper w/side cocking - $1200
Zeiess conquest 3-9x40 - $400
NC star rings - $15(cheap rings but able to hold zero and shoot sub MOA for now)
Total - $2180 not including DROS/tax/shipping
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IMO, An AR10 Assembly is not much of a project. I spent 3 hours assembling my AR15. Unless you are milling out a Lower, you're really not "building" anything.

That being said, I would not recommend going cheap on an AR Assembly. Save up your $$ & really get what you want. I went cheap on the trigger assy & almost immediately regretted it upon shooting it.

It was fun to assemble my AR, & I love the fact I got what I wanted. (except for the trigger)

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Here's my build:
My build:
LR-308 rifle
TM lower. * * * * * * * 179.40
DROS+tax. * * * * * * * * 92.55
Raddlock. * * * * * * * * * 36.00
Parts. * * * * * * * * * * *118.00
Stock/parts. * * * * * * * 99.77
Upper Assembly. * * * *568.76
10 rd DPMS Mag. * * * 35.00
Total. * * * * * * * * * $1129.48
Nothing special, but it's under 1200.
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Here's the basis for my build: Started with forged Billet receivers from JD Machine ($650)

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And Nobody has added shipping to the cost. Even at $1200 wheres the optic? Good luck.
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And Nobody has added shipping to the cost. Even at $1200 wheres the optic? Good luck.
My shipping costs were negligible (added to above post) or included. I think if you are talking $1200, you are talking iron sights. You can add another $1200 for the optics.

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I spent 2700 on my AR-10 pattern rifle, the upper alone was 1400. There is NOTHING cheap in a .308 ar including the ammo to feed it.
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I was going to build one as well a while ago. But you got to spend some coin if you want a good one.
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The lower part kits will need a couple 308 specific parts: front and rear pivot pin and bolt catch. The Tactical Machining lowers come with thepin and set screw for the bolt catch. Also, you will need a 308 specific buffer and buffer spring. You can definitely build a DPMS type for under $1,200 using a Tactical Machining lower and a DPMS upper from RGUNS.net.
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Since we can't have the DPMS Panther in Ca , rather than building an AR in a 308 which will cost more thant 1200 for sure , just buy the Rem R25 .... made by DPMS ........ Problem solved .. if you prefer to build one ......buy the Rem and tear it down and re-build it Thats what Im thinkin about doing ... less the teardown and rebuilding ....
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On that budget, go with 5.56. Considering the price of ammo...and a .308 is quite a bit more than a 5.56. A quality optic alone can take all of your budget on a .308.
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Right now my lr 308 build is at about your budget.you would have had to get in on the tm group buy to get quality parts and stay under budget.
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Since we can't have the DPMS Panther in Ca , rather than building an AR in a 308 which will cost more thant 1200 for sure , just buy the Rem R25 .... made by DPMS ........ Problem solved .. if you prefer to build one ......buy the Rem and tear it down and re-build it Thats what Im thinkin about doing ... less the teardown and rebuilding ....
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Atlantic Arms has a FAL for around 800 I think. Seeoms like its a sweet rifle. There are a lot of upgrades you can do for it too
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