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Old 12-15-2017, 11:29 AM
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Talking New Nightforce 1-8 FFP discussion

$2,744.00 for the 34mm ATACR version
$1,715.00 for the 30mm NX8

Both are FFP and the specs are below:




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Those look pretty sweet. Id love to take a look though that 34mm tube, I bet its amazing.
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I like how compact that appears to be.
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The NX8 looks awesome!
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Certainly got my attention, though it seems weird that they didn't reverse the turret offerings and put the capped on the NX8 and the exposed turrets on the ATACAR.
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That ATACR version has a reticle with mil-grid, so the assumption is that you will be using primarily using the reticle for everything.

The NX8 version has a mil-sclae only, so they left it with an exposed elevation turret.

Specs look interesting. NX8 has a wider FOV, but ATACR has a noticeable larger exit pupil at 1x. Generally, some numbers might by typos, so I will go confirm a few things at SHOT.

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17oz, 1-8, FFP, compact size... you're killing me Larry.

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Very interested in the NX8.

NF is dreamin with the price on the F1. It better be everything every 1-8x thus far aspired to be but fell short on at that price.
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That ATACR version has a reticle with mil-grid, so the assumption is that you will be using primarily using the reticle for everything.

The NX8 version has a mil-sclae only, so they left it with an exposed elevation turret.

Specs look interesting. NX8 has a wider FOV, but ATACR has a noticeable larger exit pupil at 1x. Generally, some numbers might by typos, so I will go confirm a few things at SHOT.

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True, but with the better optics and a larger main tube, I'd be much more inclined to use the ATACR at longer distances for more precise shots than the NX8 and thus more likely to dial in my adjustments also.
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I want to see a comparison against the accupower 1-8 base on price I hope it's 1500 better.
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I wonder if they’ll be some really good deals on the 1-4 now
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Great, now I'm debating on keeping my tr24r or selling it to get a NX8
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What are the weights for both? Somebody posted 17oz, I'm assuming that's for the 30mm tube NX8.
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What are the weights for both? Somebody posted 17oz, I'm assuming that's for the 30mm tube NX8.
Correct. ATACR is listed as 21 oz on the Nightforce website.
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From Kyle Defoor:

My new @nightforce_optics 1-8 ATACR I’ve been using for the past few months. Here’s what matters;
- FFP w/daytime visible red dot
- brightness...10 on here equals 10 on an Aimpoint Micro T2
- capped turrets
- mil/mil with a solid and easy to use reticle
- still has zero stop and throw lever
- 34 mm tube
- The ATACR (what is pictured) vs. the NX8......ATACR Glass is supreme which will give you better long distance shots and more forgiving 1 power work. Weight is within 4 ozs. Ain’t nothing wrong with the NX8 but I do this for a living so.....
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1) I’m wholeheartedly as fast with this as I am with an RDS (aimpoint or eotech).
2) this is the LPV right now. My background is being brought up with the invention of the Mk12 and scoped m4s and LPV’s (I’ve designed two in this industry so far)
3) takes the platform to its max capability both close and far without over magnifying.




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OP, any notes when compared to the Trijicon AccuPower 1-8? I was recently looking at one, and then came across the NX8.

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I am SOOOOO Glad I didn't purchase either the Trijicon Accupower 1-8x or the Leupold VX6 HD 1-6x. Both were tempting optics I'd been looking at.

That NX8 looks amazing and almost exactly what I'd been looking for. I almost purchased the Nightforce 1-4x-24 version but decided against it for a few reason including the lack of top end magnification and illumination that wasn't daytime bright.
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True, but with the better optics and a larger main tube, I'd be much more inclined to use the ATACR at longer distances for more precise shots than the NX8 and thus more likely to dial in my adjustments also.
I am not sure what the larger tube has to do with it, since both have about the same amount of adjustment range.

I do expect the ATACR to have better optics. Also, because of likely differences in reticle cell size, it is easier to make complicated patterns in the ATACR reticle.

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OP, any notes when compared to the Trijicon AccuPower 1-8? I was recently looking at one, and then came across the NX8.

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Trijicon 1-8x is a 34mm tube diameter, so it is going to be heavier.

NX8 is also shorter.

Those are the main differences I've noticed, other than the reticle and the NX8 has integrated throw lever.

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Trijicon 1-8x is a 34mm tube diameter, so it is going to be heavier.

NX8 is also shorter.

Those are the main differences I've noticed, other than the reticle and the NX8 has integrated throw lever.

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1-8 ATACR is around the same size as the accupower just wonder if it's worth the extra cash I know the accupower is 3-4 oz heavier.
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It's not officially released yet, there's a few people who have T&E demos out there. I'm not a fan of the Accupower as I'm not a fan of the reticle and the fact it's not daytime bright at that price point. I'd prefer a lower cost scope if I had to have FFP like the Burris XTR II or Eotech Vudu but my choice a that price point is the Vortex Razor Gen II 1-6.
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It's not officially released yet, there's a few people who have T&E demos out there. I'm not a fan of the Accupower as I'm not a fan of the reticle and the fact it's not daytime bright at that price point. I'd prefer a lower cost scope if I had to have FFP like the Burris XTR II or Eotech Vudu but my choice a that price point is the Vortex Razor Gen II 1-6.
They are day light bright in red but that is a very subjective topic just like the reticle I want to know a real world comparison glass quality and such.
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They are day light bright in red but that is a very subjective topic just like the reticle I want to know a real world comparison glass quality and such.
Which scope are you discussing?
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They are day light bright in red but that is a very subjective topic just like the reticle I want to know a real world comparison glass quality and such.
I think it will vastly depend on what people are planning to do with this particular optic. It seems like some are seeing these as a "two in one" option. They can use it as a red dot sight, and a magnified optic rolled into one happy tube. If that is the case, then the use of the illumination would be more important as a quickly acquired sight, then the traditional illumination would not be bright enough for some.

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The accupoints have trouble providing enough illumination when you shoot from a shaded area into a brightly lit area. The tritium by itself doesn't provide enough light intensity in that kind of setting.
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I am not a huge fan of the Accupower 1-8x and prefer the Burris XTR II to it. I would like the XTR II even more if they gave me a simple mil-scale instead of the BDC, but that is another conversation. The circle in the XTR II works really well at 1x.

With the NX8, there are two things that really interest me: day bright illumination and short (<9 inches) overall length. Exit pupil on 1x is pretty small, but that is workable. I've used smaller with good effect. If the overall quality holds up well in that small of a package, Nightforce will really have something special on its hands.

The ATACR F1 is probably an excellent design as well and it will go head to head with the Minox ZP8, since at that price there are a few other options. If NX8 offers a day-bright FFP reticle, in its price range, it has no obvious competition for the time being.

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I am not a huge fan of the Accupower 1-8x and prefer the Burris XTR II to it. I would like the XTR II if they gave me a simple mil-scale instead of the BDC, but that is another conversation. The circle in the XTR II works really well at 1x.

With the NX8, there are two things that really interest me: day bright illumination and short (<9 inches) overall length. Exit pupil on 1x is pretty small, but that is workable. I've used smaller with good effect. If the overall quality holds up well in that small of a package, Nightforce will really have something special on its hands.

The ATACR F1 is probably an excellent design as well and it will go head to head with the Minox ZP8, since at that price there are a few other options. If NX8 offers a day-bright FFP reticle, in its price range, it has no obvious competition for the time being.

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Owning and selling both the CQBSS vs. the Minox ZP8 I'll take the Minox all day long. Now the ZP8 vs. the ATACR is TBD
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The accupoints have trouble providing enough illumination when you shoot from a shaded area into a brightly lit area. The tritium by itself doesn't provide enough light intensity in that kind of setting.
I'm speaking of the accupower guys not the accupoint. But as I thought nothing concrete can be discuss to we have a comparison of both and see why the NF 34mm is worth 1k more base off specs it shaves off 4oz to a comparable accupower 1-8.
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