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My dad asked me for some help this weekend finding a Red Dot for his AR. Asking for his price range, he gave me a budget of $200 to $400. I'd been looking around and was thinking of picking up a Vortex SPARC II. Anyone have experience with this Red Dot? Any other recommendations in the price range I listed? I should note he was originally told to buy a Bushnell TRS 25.

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I have a brand new aimpoint h1 for sale.. I can get it in that price range. Pm me if interested.
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budget of $200 to $400

Aimpoint Pro..... buy once, cry once.
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You can find Eotech XPS2's in that range in the marketplace.
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budget of $200 to $400

Aimpoint Pro..... buy once, cry once.
This?

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You can find Eotech XPS2's in that range in the marketplace.
This?

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Yea, you can find it on the Calguns marketplace for anywhere from $300-$400.
Also the Trijicon MRO can be found around the same price here.
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The one thing I will give to Vortex is the lifetime warranty.

Depending on your use you may not need a $500 red dot ya know!
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The one thing I will give to Vortex is the lifetime warranty.

Depending on your use you may not need a $500 red dot ya know!
The Vortex 3x spitfire has pretty amazing glass.
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This will be primary range use. I bought my dad a BCM RECCE-16 for Father's Day so he's just looking for something quality but not over the top.
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You may also looks at Holosun.
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This will be primary range use. I bought my dad a BCM RECCE-16 for Father's Day so he's just looking for something quality but not over the top.
Excellent upper. Here are my 3 Life long picks.

https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/39...FROXfgodxTEJiw

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/51...le-mount-matte

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This will be primary range use. I bought my dad a BCM RECCE-16 for Father's Day so he's just looking for something quality but not over the top.
I still say Aimpoint. Buying a nice rifle and putting a budget optic on it is like buying a nice sports car and buying cheap tires, even for a range toy. that's my 2 cents, YMMV
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Aimpoint Pro since your budget goes to $400.

For lower budget, I like Primary Arms Red Dots.
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give me 4 and ill sell you a new aimpoint micro
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In that price range, I'd consider something by Holosun or Sig Sauer.
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Aimpoint PRO as others have mentioned.
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AimPoint vendor used to get people's attention by chucking an Aimpoint Comp M2 10-25 yards across the pavement during LGS parking lot vendors event to demonstrate it's ruggedness.
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Aimpoint PRO, Trijicon MRO near the $400 limit.

Vortex Sparc AR for something at $125-$150

SVM Cabela's gift cards with Active Junky will be $391 and $314 for the MRO, PRO respectively. (both with mounts)

More value and toughness with the PRO, IMHO.
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I'm assuming the budget includes the mount needed. Maybe go with a budget friendly red dot like a Holosun. And if he finds himself needing more, upgrade to a T2/T1 down the road and reuse the upgraded mount.

Mount:
https://scalarworks.com/shop/optic-mounts/ldm-micro/

Red Dot: Holosun HS403GL
https://www.amazon.com/Holosun-Paral...olosun+hs403gl

HS403GL + scalar works LDM = 4.32oz @ approx. $345
Aimpoint pro = 11.6oz @ approx. $420+
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I was in Barstow, hot day, and had a halo die on me, solar back up and still died.
Was in a class during a rainy day with a fellow calgunner running a Primary Arms 1x4 that fogged up.
You have options and I doubt a "life " really will depend on it, but if it did..
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Aimpoint ACO maybe?
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I was in Barstow, hot day, and had a halo die on me, solar back up and still died.
Was in a class during a rainy day with a fellow calgunner running a Primary Arms 1x4 that fogged up.
You have options and I doubt a "life " really will depend on it, but if it did..
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I want to try a Holosun 500 series circle dot, but those solar models look gimmicky. 503GU for me or similar if I try one. I see cheap features on pretty much everything except Aimpoint, but YMMV. Trijicon stuff I have doesn't even come with a seal plate standard, yikes. MRO, I dunno have not mounted it.
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I want to try a Holosun 500 series circle dot, but those solar models look gimmicky. 503GU for me or similar if I try one. I see cheap features on pretty much everything except Aimpoint, but YMMV. Trijicon stuff I have doesn't even come with a seal plate standard, yikes. MRO, I dunno have not mounted it.
I have the Holosun circle dot. It is really nice. It has solar power and the battery lasts for years, even when left on. It automatically adjusts to the light or you can adjust manually.



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I definitely do recommend the t2/h2. Awesome little optic

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I definitely do recommend the t2/h2. Awesome little optic

+1 for any Aimpoint Micro; I own two T2's and a T1, but OP stated a budget limit of $400. In that price range, excluding maybe Black Friday or a used optic, Aimpoint Pro wins.

Aimpoint customer service too is second to none in my experience. I once traded a Comp M4 w/ Larue mount (bought used) for a T1 Micro via Arfcom, but the guy didn't tell me 2 of the 4 mounting holes in the body were stripped . Contacted Aimpoint, they said send it in and gave me an RMA number, two weeks later I was surprised by a delivery of a brand spankin' new T1 Micro, no charge to me and I wasn't the original purchaser. I'm an Aimpoint customer for life.
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all these posts and not one recommendation for eotech.... What gives??? Have they really been black balled that bad???
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I like shooting eotechs but i dislike the pathetic battery life, so i live vicariously through a friends block ii
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all these posts and not one recommendation for eotech.... What gives??? Have they really been black balled that bad???
I'm not trying to start a pissing match, (dumped mine before the lawsuit even happened), I had a handful of them, few XPS2's and every single one had delamination issues and it left me very unhappy considering how much money I spent. One of them I zeroed on an AR, pulled it out of the safe 2 months later and it had taken a s**t just sitting in the safe. I'll add read the ENTIRE lawsuit, all 40 pages or whatever, not just internet posts and then decide if you want to give them your hard earned $$$. YMMV.
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Check out a Vortex Spitfire 1x prism scope. Not really a red dot, but has the same advantages, plus it works if he has astigmatism or if the batteries die.
they have a old school version
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...rt-moa-reticle
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics.../dp/B00HYRGOQQ

and one that has push buttons
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...1x-prism-scope
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics...TVNQ2ZWWAYMF85
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New add out at midwayusa, $50 gift card back with vortex strikefire 2, $129 effective cost. I like mine, it's rugged enough for not going to war.
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Aimpoint or get a 1x6 scope.
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I absolutely love the Holosun HS503G with the Primary Arms ACSS Reticle ($197). If you've never used the ACSS reticle, it's great + 50,000 hour battery life. Great out to about 100 yards, after that I recommend a magnifier.

I also use the 1-6 PA scope with the ACSS, great stuff.

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If you are willing to spend the max budget of $400, I would say aimpoint pro or MRO. Sometimes if you are creative and thrifty you can get either for a lot less than $400. SWFA just had a great sale on MRO's for $310 shipped.

If you want to stick to the lower end of the budget look at the holosuns and primary arms advanced micro dots. Skip the solar assisted holosuns however. I would also skip the SPARC, holosun offerings are much better than the SPARCs IMO.
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I'm not trying to start a pissing match, (dumped mine before the lawsuit even happened), I had a handful of them, few XPS2's and every single one had delamination issues and it left me very unhappy considering how much money I spent. One of them I zeroed on an AR, pulled it out of the safe 2 months later and it had taken a s**t just sitting in the safe. I'll add read the ENTIRE lawsuit, all 40 pages or whatever, not just internet posts and then decide if you want to give them your hard earned $$$. YMMV.
Yeah, I never tried the updated models. They seem to have been pretty popular until all the drama. The only thing I have to go on is an old EOTech/Bushnell GEN1 HOLOSITE that was used a lot and still works. The only thing that ever went wrong with it is the mount screw stripped out while removing from a Mini-14 and I replaced both with knurled Yankee Hill Machine Oversized knurled flathead slotted ones. Probably my oldest sight still mounted on something and it works like new. Not great battery life but it doesn't drain in storage.
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Check out a Vortex Spitfire 1x prism scope. Not really a red dot, but has the same advantages, plus it works if he has astigmatism or if the batteries die.
they have a old school version
Have you heard anything bad about the newer AR version? I saw one review where the guys says he had four of the old versions and the new one is poor glass quality compared to the old. I wonder how they compare to the Burris AR-132. Old 1x version on Cabela's is $199 and the Burris goes about the same $200 range. I guess that'd be more like $144 with gift card tricks.
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