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Never NEVER register your personal property with the government. You own it, you bought it legally, its none of their friggin business! Even in New York the majority of people are NOT registering their firearms. |
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Who's we? You're (mistakenly) connecting two very different cohorts - those with a clue, and those without.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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EVEN IF we get a 'ruled in our favor' the state will appeal and one way or another, unless verified by a group of GUN OWNERS, the records,registrations,etc will NEVER BE ERASED or DESTROYED either in hard copy or in the 'puter...... I really hate every aspect of this state's government at every level...... We are all in S**t Sandwich and morass of assinine people in positions to make policy that have no biz being there... I would not trust these idiots to change the oil in my car or mow my lawn....
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'There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live.' 'I have so many good karma points I am approaching Saint Hood' "They tell you of a laundry detergent that takes out bloodstains- I'm thinking that if you have clothes covered in bloodstains-maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem" [SIGPIC]http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/signaturepics/sigpic27069_2.gif[/SIGPIC] |
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1) the kind that makes gun owners cry 2) the kind that makes gun owners cry, but makes Allison Merrilee cry even harder
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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The ONLY way to keep our rights is to exercise them like they were never threatened in the first place. Make them deal with it. There's not enough private prisons to hold us all. Eventually the grabbers would give up. It shocked me when I found out why every one was calling this a briar patch bill. I thought it was too, but for a completely different reason. PM me if you'd like to know why.
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There is no justification for the public servant police to be more heavily armed than the law-abiding public they serve...Unless...the government's intention is to be more powerful than the people. |
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What does she care? She is no longer working there. I don't give a rats azz about who is crying in government. This crap has to stop being a game, which it is turning into. I will never register the weapons i currently own and i will encourage every gun owner to do the same. |
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You act as if we have a choice in whether legislation will pass. We play with the hand that is dealt to us.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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She played a role now filled by somebody else. The names are unimportant; they change. The roles do not. Do you really not understand what I am alluding to?
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome Last edited by curtisfong; 02-25-2013 at 5:37 PM.. |
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Legislation is nothing but words on paper. You have a choice in how you will respond to it.
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There is no justification for the public servant police to be more heavily armed than the law-abiding public they serve...Unless...the government's intention is to be more powerful than the people. |
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Geez louise at least tell me he thinks the governor would veto this thing. Last edited by taperxz; 02-25-2013 at 5:01 PM.. |
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We should do a million person march on Ball-Sacramento and the capital and occupy it, somehow do a blanket of the worst charges against all of them possible for actions against the COTUS, CITIZENS and DISCRIMINATION..... Face it, 'we' as gunowners are being PERSECUTED because we are 'different' and if the craaaappp hits the flapper have a means to 'ultimately' change things.......
Another way to look at it is gun owners are being discriminated just like gays,lesbians,minorities, you name it.... guess we have to also 'play that card'. I KNOW there is some racketeering, extortion, coercion going on against us, just look at the bills.... you own something prior to the 'ban' and IF you DO NOT WANT to GO TO PRISON AS A FELON, you WILL PAY and ,violating your 4th,5th,and other Ammendments, 'legally ' turn over information that 'they can use against 'you' ....or if you do not and 'they' find your stuff you will not pass 'go' you go straight to prison......no wonder they are clearing the prisons....
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And I fail to see how an employer, bank, DMV, or AmEx employee will know if I'm concealed carrying, unless they threaten my life. And with the way things are going, even those that comply will have those same restrictions to worry about. There are grabbers out there that want us registered like friggin' sex offenders.
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You talk tough for an anarchist. Let's see you do something about it, tough guy.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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Also, I am not an anarchist. Didn't know believing in the Constitution (rule of law) made me an anarchist. And I do something about it every single day. My rights will not be infringed unless I allow them to be. Save the tough guy talk for someone else.
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The BIGGEST problem is that there was NEVER a 2A IN THE CALIFORNIA STATE Constitution........ THAT is where they are ultimately getting their Balls from.... 'dont like it, move out, we did not incorporate it here so it does not apply to you worthless peasants who inhabit this state and are forced to comply with us, what do you think this is, the USA?'
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In any case, you are missing the point. Why did the DOJ refuse the legal authority to widen the AW ban list? If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't bother answering until you do.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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Does that include EULAs?
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You do know what incorporation is, right?
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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You fight, let your voice be heard, and you challenge your local politicians. ARE you suggesting we should just take it in the keester and comply? |
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I can't believe somebody who has been around as long as you is demanding I be explicit about this. Should we really be helping Steinberg fix this legislation before putting it up for a vote?
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome Last edited by curtisfong; 02-25-2013 at 5:14 PM.. |
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I don't remember anyone celebrating, but our argument that we no longer have OC to the courts hasn't even had time for a judgement yet (currently awaiting judgement in the 9th circuit).
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I'm not scared in the least. I understand the rules of engagement and what it takes to win where you do not.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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You mean like depending on corrupt courts to decide what rights we have? Took them over 200 years to incorporate the 2nd Amendment, right? How long do you think you will live? Once they have full registration, how long will it take before confiscation happens? Once the names are written down, you're SOL. The violations of FOPA prove that.
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You want to put all your eggs in one big CGF easter basket, go for it. |
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You have a choice in how you will respond to it.
By signing your name, or clicking 'I agree.', you have issued your response. If you choose to lie, and not stick to your own compliance, you are a cowardly man.
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Are you suggesting the DOJ won't blink this time? How have things changed since then? Are they willing to create millions of new AWs in CA where there weren't willing to create a few thousand before?
And how else do you suggest we "fight" this legislation before it passes? Remember: your opinion means nothing to congress, and never has. Surely you aren't suggesting we open carry on the steps of capitol hill, like the other geniuses in this thread?
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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You have missed the greater sub text to the on going debates over the years as to how we approach these bills and what we do to try and kill them early through committee and lobbying efforts, and personal meetings with legislators and key figures in the know. Now the only talk seems to be post defeat and what will happen in court.
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Are you an anarchist or not?
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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Curtis,
You are playing chicken with our constitutional rights. Do you actually believe that confiscation will NOT follow registration? You act like you are so tricky about the RAW registration. Haven't you ever considered that they wrote the "flaw" on purpose? You are a mouse smelling cheese... Geez, if a mouse can figure out that a piece of cheese is sitting on a trap, we should be able see the trap they are trying to set for us. |
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At the legislative level, that is all we can do. Everything else is clueless bluster.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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Which will do absolutely nothing except eventually get you arrested.
Unless you are suggesting everybody should do this out of civil disobedience, with the goal of overwhelming the police and the court system. I suppose you'll tell me that isn't actually a riot.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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Plus 1, ignore. If someone wants to get personal just remember that it was their decision, not yours. Then defend yourself by any and all means necessary.
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I won't say more regarding the AW registration threat. It annoys me that you (of all people) aren't understanding what I'm implying. I know the rest of the posters are noobs, but you should know better.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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