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Old 11-07-2017, 5:05 PM
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Default Why so many KSGs for sale...

Is there a reason why thereís a major trend of KSGs being sold in the marketplace? Did I miss something on a law or something?
Did people stop fascinating about clearing rooms with the KSG and desire the Shockwave? What gives? Just curious...
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Old 11-07-2017, 5:17 PM
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People got them and realized they were an over priced/hyped piece of turd?
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Old 11-07-2017, 5:38 PM
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Because they're useless?
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Old 11-07-2017, 5:40 PM
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Because the felt recoil is too much for them to handle?
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Old 11-07-2017, 5:45 PM
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I put them in the "seems cool but would I really use it" pile, along with drones, radio controlled tanks, etc.
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Because the felt recoil is too much for them to handle?
^This. And it probably clashes with their skinny jeans.
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Old 11-07-2017, 7:24 PM
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Novelty item...and the novelty wore off.
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Old 11-07-2017, 7:26 PM
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I fell for all the hype. Now I regret buying it. It's a cool range toy but I wouldn't trust it with my life.
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Old 11-07-2017, 7:57 PM
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Because it's a silly toy made of plastic that uses a manual action that was invented in the 1800's and is not reliable enough to risk your life on.

Maybe people are finding a shotgun that isn't designed for sporting with a proper 24" + barrel is damn near worthless for any kind of recreational shooting.

So it's worthless for defense, and worthless for sport. What's left? Shooting 1 ounce slugs at steel plates?
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Keltec doesn't have a very good reputation. I've read the KSG has a lot of problems.
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Old 11-07-2017, 8:01 PM
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Can't operate the pump with half their hand blown off?
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Because the felt recoil is too much for them to handle?
Most uncomfortable gun Iíve ever shouldered. Canít imagine how bad the recoil is.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:39 AM
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Definitely a fun range toy. I can only speak from my own experience, but mine has no reliability issues so far. I have put several rounds through it using many different loads without any problems. I've also had several family members use it (some not so experienced) and they were able to operate without issue as well. I did put a vertical grip on the front to prevent exposing your fingers to the muzzle. It's surely not for everyone.
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Old 11-08-2017, 12:52 PM
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Not only KSG, all AR15 hipe,
All those "wanna-be soldiers"-Rambos bought them on impulse to recognised it is not more than a useless toy which needs to be fed and be taken for walks(range time means useless spent time and money) in order to justify its existence.

Some getting grow up and wise up fast and sell them, some are still dump or do not want to admit and keep them posting on forums how good they are and what a joy to shoot them.
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Old 11-08-2017, 12:56 PM
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seems like a great bedside gun, not sure why all the complaints. But then again I don't own one
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Old 11-08-2017, 1:03 PM
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I think people get caught up in the looks, probably from playing too many video games. Way too much cosmetic plastic IMO. Plus I've seen enough videos to know it's a jam-o-matic. For $800 their are a lot better choices.
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I thought I wanted one. Then I had the opportunity to shoot one.

I never want to own one. I never want to shoot one again. I've shot .338's, .50's, etc. and that KSG was the single most uncomfortable firearm I've ever shot
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Old 11-08-2017, 1:25 PM
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I just traded a glock 17 (fancy) for a KSG How do you like that!

I love it, toss some mini Aguilas and pump for days.

Added a TLR on the end with a folding Vert Grip, fits in my scabbard perfectly, fits on your back literally waist to shoulder and it goes boom many many times.

By the way , it is not comfy, it kicks like a mule and its ugly as sin. But it does exactly what I need it to do and it does it very well.

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Old 11-08-2017, 1:30 PM
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Not only KSG, all AR15 hipe,
All those "wanna-be soldiers"-Rambos bought them on impulse to recognised it is not more than a useless toy which needs to be fed and be taken for walks(range time means useless spent time and money) in order to justify its existence.


Some getting grow up and wise up fast and sell them, some are still dump or do not want to admit and keep them posting on forums how good they are and what a joy to shoot them.
Are you an AK guy? AR15 hype has nothing to do with the KSG
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:23 PM
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My KEG has never had a problem. It's a fun gun to shoot and you get more shoots per reload. It's not my most shot firearm, but it's a awesome gun. Every time I see one in the market place l'm tempted to get another one.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:37 AM
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Most people think it's cool without realizing it's a light weight pump shotgun.
It's not that fun at the range. Feels like throwing sand into the field if you aren't shooting slugs.
Many people jump on it when the price finally dropped to around $900 after years of waiting.

It's been fun for me..!
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People shot them then realized that it is not a fun range gun.
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Old 11-15-2017, 2:41 PM
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It looks like at $850 no one is biting either. People are trying to sell them without taking a loss on them.
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Old 11-15-2017, 2:48 PM
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It's overpriced, unreliable, impractical crap.
The market doesn't lie.
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I love it, toss some mini Aguilas and pump for days.
There are a lot of other things you can pump for days that give more enjoyment, are more productive, and are more comfortable than furiously stroking a KSG.
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"Another devastating Kel-Tec KSG injury"
https://www.thegunwriter.com/19139/a...ec-ksg-injury/

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I've had one since 2014, never had any issues with it, I shoot minishells and 2-3/4" buckshot & slugs and no problems. If you all think they are pieces of junk, just give them to me. I'll gladly get rid of them for you.
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No issues. I bought another recently. Under $650 which in my mind a great deal.
My first Gen 2 model is 100% reliable and with a limsaver buttstock I can shoot it all day. Having 14 rounds of mixed double ought on one side and perhaps some #4 you can have the best of both worlds. With slugs I can hit easy 130 yards (EOTech is superb and my Magpul flip ups see thru the EOTech perfectly.

So you can use it for hunting like a rifle.
I like that itís Short. And Handy. Fits in a bag for Bug Out if needed.

A very versatile weapon.

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Got a good deal on my gen 2 ksg. Shot it once. Liked the idea of it but not for me. Prefer my 870
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Not only KSG, all AR15 hipe,
All those "wanna-be soldiers"-Rambos bought them on impulse to recognised it is not more than a useless toy which needs to be fed and be taken for walks(range time means useless spent time and money) in order to justify its existence.

Some getting grow up and wise up fast and sell them, some are still dump or do not want to admit and keep them posting on forums how good they are and what a joy to shoot them.
Pretty bitter.

What does anyone care why someone buys something? Based on this logic, 90% or more ar15 sales are by wanna be's that's shouldnt be buying them in the first place. 15 billion dollar a year industry and how much of that do you think is from the humble, "wanna be" civilian market? My guess would be the bulk.

Well, guess what? That 90% that did buy and they are the ones responsible for market competition, innovation and growth, thank you very much.
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Too sad that this market is driven by brainless infants.
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Too sad that this market is driven by brainless infants.

Well, I can't argue that.. at least it's being driven in a forward-ish direction.
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The capacity and compactness as laid out on paper indicate to me a lot of potential for Home defense and other special applications. However reliability cannot be in question then.
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Well, I can't argue that.. at least it's being driven in a forward-ish direction.
If they have to sell it at lost, i'd say it is more of downd-sh.
Pps already started recognise it.
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The first one had a dealer cost of $565. The first one that sold on Gun Broker went for $2,995. The first dark earth one that sold on Gun Broker sold for $4,000.00. My other post about the 870DM warns people not to buy the latest greatest thing as gun safes are full of safe queens that were the latest greatest thing. I warn to ignore new models and others be the test dummies. Yet so many just have to be the first kid on the block with a new toy. Wonder what that guy that paid 4K for the flat dark earth KSG is going to say when he trys to sell it or trade it in and is offered $400 for it?

Fads are just that and this forum was pushing the KSG harder then any other and blasting me for saying it was a waste of money that could be better spent on an 870 or 590. Now there is only a couple nice words about the KSG here. Time sure change don't they?

Also, Kel-tec has a pattern of bringing out a new model at shot show, not producing it for awhile, then only producing a limited run to test the hype. They did that with the PMR-30 and now I get e-mails weekly from Distributors tring to sell them on specials or give you free ones when you purchase other guns. It also seems they let the customers do their RD as recalls are common and a model will be introduced then vanish only to return in a couple years or so after you guys find all the issues. The company has no credibility in among us dealers but when we try to warn people our words fall on death ears.

If you are an old guy like me then you have seen bull pup shotguns come and go and you will never be tempted by such folly.
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