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Old 01-17-2018, 8:22 AM
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You are obviously very dedicated to this cause, but I can't help but wonder why you seem to gloss over the basic requirements of his good cause requirements. e.g. Did you not bold the part about "Occupation or Business" for a reason?
Yeah, because, I assume, that doesn't apply to you like it wouldn't apply to me.

Remember, the policy is just a guideline. Humans have to interpret and apply it. If they brought it up, I'd say whether I'm getting paid or not is irrelevant to the risk I face and my need for a CCW.

Focus on that part about putting you at risk more than the average person ("subject to personal risk and / or criminal attack, greater than the general population"). You don't have to be the target of a Mafia hitman (an A+ GC), just someone who would be at higher than average risk (a C+ GC).

Plus, what was posted months ago may or may not be what's currently being practiced. The IT guy probably only updates their webpages every month or so, assuming Gore/subordinate even submitted a revision/update.

You, like it or not, have a weak GC. But, given the positive postings I quoted of people being issued and the lack of negative postings (at least that I've seen), if I were you, I'd give it my best shot and go for it! After all, on the one hand you may get denied and be out, IIRC, less than $100. But on the other hand you may squeak by and get a 2 yr CA CCW!



If I were you, I'd spend time going over what I do and where I go and what I have with me (valuables) for an entire month to try to work up by best possible GC and then apply.

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Old 01-20-2018, 2:41 PM
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How about all those applications that flooded the sheriff's office after Peruta, are those still active or do we need to submit a new one? My address has changed and I wonder if they just chucked them all.
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How about all those applications that flooded the sheriff's office after Peruta, are those still active or do we need to submit a new one? My address has changed and I wonder if they just chucked them all.
I asked the same question earlier... Here was Paladin's reply.

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IIRC, if you used only "self-defense"/similar as your GC statement, you can (1) abandon your application. (2) Have them process it w/SD as your GC and get denied. (3) Or, you can revise & elaborate on your GC and pay the fees and have it processed.

I'm not sure what happened/happens if you submitted an application but did not get in touch with them post-Peruta to tell them what you wanted to do. Just call the Sheriff’s License Division at 858-974-2020


In other words, if you used Self Protection etc for your good cause, nothing has changed.
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Cross posting some REALLY "good news" from San Diego County Gun Owners PAC:
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Since the changes San Diego County Gun Owners PAC forced in September the average applications have gone from 10 a month to over 10 a day and not one person has been turned down due to good cause. We know of hundreds of approved applications and their "good cause" never would have passed before September.
I encourage all San Diego residents to not believe the progress we've seen. Please, be sceptical. Please apply and report back.
Use this video to apply:
Watch "Applying for your CCW in San Diego _ Step by Step w/Additional Info" on YouTube
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rice_man posted this interview with Gore in another thread. It's from last week. Gore says he's now got a 94% approval rate for CCWs, has had 186 applications in first 3 months of this year and only turned down 6! (and none of those were for insufficient GC)

https://kogo.iheart.com/featured/the...ersy-and-ccws/

The first 4:40 min is re. ICE and illegal aliens, 4:40 to 10 min re. CCWs and the rest re. various other SDSO issues.
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rice_man posted this interview with Gore in another thread. It's from last week. Gore says he's now got a 94% approval rate for CCWs, has had 186 applications in first 3 months of this year and only turned down 6!

https://kogo.iheart.com/featured/the...ersy-and-ccws/

The first 4:40 is re. ICE and illegal aliens, 4:40 to 10 min re. CCWs and the rest re. various other issues.

Impressive change.
I'm quite optimistic my justification is going to fly then.
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If he issues, I really have no other issues with him.
Once the election is over, things will change. He will forget what he said.
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Once the election is over, things will change. He will forget what he said.
I fully expect him to run, win as the incumbent, then retire. He'll name a hand-picked successor, just like Kolender did for him (or Kolender's caretakers, as he was deep into dementia at the time). That worthy will immediately "review" issuance policies and begin to revoke most.
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with a population of over 3 million people, SD county has 180 new CCWs? This is impressive how? This is still a farce to get re-elected.
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Old 04-08-2018, 1:10 PM
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with a population of over 3 million people, SD county has 180 new CCWs? This is impressive how? This is still a farce to get re-elected.
That's 180 new CCWs in the first 3 months of this year.

Acc to SDCGOPAC, they've had "hundreds" of people tell them they've gotten issued since Sept with ZERO denials due to insufficient GC.

If you're familiar with Gore's previous practice, this is an impressive change.

Myers, on the other hand, has come out on his campaign website AGAINST National Reciprocity for CCWs and for taking guns away from people merely arrested for DV, not convicted.

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+ Enforce the gun laws of the state of California, which are the strictest in the nation, to the letter.

+ Set clear guidelines and encourage civil dialogue. I will work with all interested parties on practical solutions, but we’re not going to confiscate guns, nor will we arm teachers.

+ Assign a deputy to all school campuses.

+ Ensure those arrested for domestic violence, child abuse, elder abuse, or animal cruelty, as well as those taken into protective custody for mental health treatment, do not possess guns. I will honor gun violence restraining orders.

+ Not support efforts that result in national reciprocity. Too many states set a very low bar to obtain high-powered weapons and many still let those who have been convicted of domestic violence obtain guns.

+ Support efforts to take guns off the streets through voluntary turn-ins or buybacks, as well as organizations that represent gun owners and work with them to be compliant with all laws.
From: https://www.davemyersforsheriff.com/issues/
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Old 04-08-2018, 1:29 PM
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Once the election is over, things will change. He will forget what he said.
Gore said he'd stop appealing Peruta after loosing the 3-judge panel's decision and he was good to his word.

Gore said back in Oct/Nov he liberalized CCW issuance and, again, he's been good to his word.

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I fully expect him to run, win as the incumbent, then retire. He'll name a hand-picked successor, just like Kolender did for him (or Kolender's caretakers, as he was deep into dementia at the time). That worthy will immediately "review" issuance policies and begin to revoke most.
I can speculate too.

Myers is a Left-wing Dem who's other positions are consistently Left wing. Who says he can't "evolve" his CCW position after the next nut case shooting? Myers is already against CCWers from out-of-state CCWing inside CA and CA CCWers CCWing in other states (i.e., Myers is against National Reciprocity). He already supports stripping people of their guns and 2nd A RKBA for only being arrested, not convicted, for DV. Just go to "Issues" on his campaign website to see for yourself.

If Myers wins in 2018, and there's a Repub challenger in 2022, Myers might have to appease his Dem donors, endorsers and party bosses by once again requiring significant GC for CCWs in order to fight off a conservative challenger. (IOW, Myers could be in the opposite position of where Gore is this election. Gore has been forced to become/act like a consistent conservative, whereas Myers could be forced to become/act like a consistent statist/Leftist/Progressive/Liberal.)

And then, when it's Myers time to retire, he'll quit midterm, elevate a consistent Leftist (i.e., anti-CCW, but agrees w/everything else Myers says today), to complete his term, who will then run as the incumbent, and CCWs for SD Co will be lost for decades....
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Old 04-11-2018, 8:53 PM
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One of the reservations I would have about voting for Gore, if I lived in SD Co, is that he's still got his restrictive GC policy posted on his website. If he really did start liberalizing things back in Sept, it's been over 6 months and yet no update/revision by IT people.... https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

He knows CCWs are, like it or not, an important campaign issue this year. You'd think once he decided to liberalize issuance, he'd post a revised GC description, or at least remove some of the more egregious restrictions. "Any activity.... " could replace the "business or occupation" precondition/qualification.
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I fully expect him to run, win as the incumbent, then retire. He'll name a hand-picked successor, just like Kolender did for him (or Kolender's caretakers, as he was deep into dementia at the time). That worthy will immediately "review" issuance policies and begin to revoke most.
That's how things are done here. Gore's replacement will be as resistant as he has been. When the media are introduced to Gore's replacement they will all sign on to the usual "he will keep us safe" crappola and endorse him/her.

CCW permits are at around 99 out of 100 of the most important law enforcement issues here. Only Channel 9 mentions it here locally.
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I fully expect him to run, win as the incumbent, then retire. He'll name a hand-picked successor, just like Kolender did for him (or Kolender's caretakers, as he was deep into dementia at the time). That worthy will immediately "review" issuance policies and begin to revoke most.
That has been how it has worked here, with the difference being the hand-picked replacements have been progressively more liberal on issuance, each one streamlining the process a bit.
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Old 04-14-2018, 2:45 PM
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That has been how it has worked here, with the difference being the hand-picked replacements have been progressively more liberal on issuance, each one streamlining the process a bit.
I'll repeat myself for SD Co CGNers who are not short-sighted....

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Myers is a Left-wing Dem who's other positions are consistently Left wing. Who says he can't "evolve" his CCW position after the next nut case shooting? Myers is already against CCWers from out-of-state CCWing inside CA and CA CCWers CCWing in other states (i.e., Myers is against National Reciprocity). He already supports stripping people of their guns and 2nd A RKBA for only being arrested, not convicted, for DV. Just go to "Issues" on his campaign website to see for yourself.

If Myers wins in 2018, and there's a Repub challenger in 2022, Myers might have to appease his Dem donors, endorsers and party bosses by once again requiring significant GC for CCWs in order to fight off a conservative challenger. (IOW, Myers could be in the opposite position of where Gore is this election. Gore has been forced to become/act like a consistent conservative, whereas Myers could be forced to become/act like a consistent statist/Leftist/Progressive/Liberal.)

And then, when it's Myers time to retire, he'll quit midterm, elevate a consistent Leftist (i.e., anti-CCW, but agrees w/everything else Myers says today), to complete his term, who will then run as the incumbent, and CCWs for SD Co will be lost for decades....
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For those of you who have not noticed, the SDSD has added a "CCW Counter" to their CCW web page. Upper right hand corner of the page. Don't know if that number includes judicial and reserve or is just civilians.

http://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

Thanks to Paladin for the heads up...
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