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Old 02-18-2010, 10:30 AM
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Default Springfield Armory EMP - a detailed look

Iíve been looking very hard at the Springfield Armory EMP since its introduction and I just couldnít resist anymore when i found a new one at a great price from a reputatble dealer in FL.

The EMP has great proportions and the satin black of the frame, sights and hammer, contrasting with the polished slide stop, thumb safety, mag release and Main Spring Housing (MSH) are set off nicely with the bead blasted white trigger, barrel and slide


The EMP is not as small as I imagined. Itís about the same size as my Kahr CW9.


It comes equipped with a Novak rear sight fitted with Trijicon night sights and a serrated front blade with a front dot


something you usually only see on custom guns is the base of the front sight is blended into the slide


Nice touches are the steel MSH, beavertail grip safety and the skeletonized hammer


I didnít care for the drilled trigger, but I liked the subtle undercut of the trigger guard (itís more felt than seen)
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:32 AM
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An interesting feature is what appears to be a bushingless bull barrel supported by a full length guide rod


When you retract the slide, you find that the barrel isn’t flared/belled at the front, only the top surface is relieved back to the first locking lug and the guide rod is a double spring affair


It looks like the initial recoil impulse is taken by the larger outer spring, while compressing the smaller inner spring in a separate tunnel


The feed ramp is integral with the barrel and the chamber is fully supported


The slide to frame fit is very nice and there is no movement when you push down on the barrel hood
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Holy crap that barrel is thick!!!! Gotta love Springfield's quality.
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wow that thing is sexy.. looks tiny but when compared to the Kahr CW9 its about the same size which isn't that small.. hmm
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Cool gun. If they made these in anything but a stainless slide I'd likely pick one up.
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You mean like this one?
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That gun... it's so beautiful.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:46 PM
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Swift Justice is that a spray-n-bake coat or something like Melonite?

which mag funnel is that...i'm assuming the frame had to be cut and welded...who did the work?
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This is making me want one bad!!
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Old 02-19-2010, 11:23 AM
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The EMP is excellent. Mine now has a single-sided safety (I sent it to Springfield Armory's Custom Shop for this work, which also included a trigger job and a non-ILS MSH) and wears AlumaGrips.









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Ken - i just love looking at your pictures

are you shooting with the 60mm Micro off a tripod?

i just threw mine together using light from the window and grabbed the nearest cushion to lay it on...yeah the wife yelled at me about the background being distracting.

i really like the rounded look on your thumb safety...the stock ones dig into my thumb...did you have to ask for that to be done?

thanks for the close up of the AlumaGrips too, i didn't realise that their diamonds were flattened or that they had that much texture to the smooth portions.
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I always use my Nikkor 60mm Micro (f/2.8 D) lens for my gun and knife photos, and shoot off of a tripod. The Exif data that is embedded into each photo provide much of these details (except about using a tripod).

The subtle ribbing on the smooth surfaces of the AlumaGrips is something new. I like it a lot.

About the safety, all I did was to request that it be changed from ambi to single-sided. The original safety was a bit pointy, and seemed to protrude too much, so I was pleasantly surprised when it came back with a much better safety, and single-sided.
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Beautiful pics guys! The EMP is one sweet lil gun. I'm jealous now thanks!
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Great pics, 9mm EMP is one of my dream guns.
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SEXY 1911's!!!

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>> lunde says:
>> Mine now has a single-sided safety (I sent it to Springfield Armory's Custom Shop for this work, which also included a trigger job and a non-ILS MSH) and wears AlumaGrips.

Ken, can you tell me about the trigger job? What did SA do to it?
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I mainly asked them to make the trigger lighter. It was smooth with a short and positive reset, which I liked. I specifically asked them not to change those aspects of the trigger, and to simply make it lighter.
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theneko, you wrote:I mainly asked them to make the trigger lighter. It was smooth with a short and positive reset, which I liked. I specifically asked them not to change those aspects of the trigger, and to simply make it lighter.

Nice Gun!

Do you remember how much Springfield Custom Shop charged you for the work (single-sided safety, trigger job, and non-ILS MSH)?

Thanks for the great pics!
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About $250, including return shipping.
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How does it shoot? recoil? accuracy? etc... I havn't shot any micro 1911s, but i am considering getting a micro before i get my full size. How does it compare to the SA 1911 loaded micro, SA 1911 GI micro, Colt Defender, etc... Any help/advice would be appreciated. I know they are different calibers, but its all about feel and accuracy for me. I don't want it to kick like glock compacts do (i've had a bad experience shooting a 9mm glock compact). I've shot a .45 nighthawk and loved it. Any info would be appreciated.
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here's a follow up range report:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...=274847&page=2

it's a hair smaller than the Kimber Ultra, SA Micros and Colt Defender (especially with it's huge Hogue grips)...but if you're just comparing overall size, you're missing the point of the EMP.

by SA resizing the EMP for the 9mm length cartridge, they addressed the timing issues that cause the "micro's" reliability issues. i wouldn't personally own another .45 ACP 1911 platform with a barrel length of less than 4.25" (i used to own a Colt OACP)...not when you can get another gun in that size without those issues...but then i'm not OCD about changing springs need to keep the short barreled 1911 running.

the EMP is very controllable and very accurate, but i wouldn't recommend any short .45 ACP 1911 as your first venture in the world of the 1911. there is just more built-in tolerance for operator/maintence error in the larger 1911s. the current 1911 that i'm shooting is a S&W 1911SC with the Sc frame and i'm having a 5" Government model built.
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What do you mean by operator/maintenance issues? I've shot a nighthawk 1911, but until I can save up to a les baer or other semi custom, i thought I would pick up a micro since it would probably be my home defense gun.

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a Micro 1911 is a terrible idea as a primary HD pistol. a HD gun doesn't have the weight and size limitations of carrying a gun outside the home.

a 1911 with a barrel/slide shorter than 4.25" needs more critical timing to insure reliable feeding due to it's lessor mass, less slide travel, shorter dwell at the end of it's travel and shorter recoil spring tunnel. manufactures try to compensate for this with different spring rates....which mean they need to be kept cleaner, more/better lubed and supplied with fresh springs at shorter intervals.

here's a short post from a LE trainer:
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The sawed off 1911 pattern pistols don't work, and if they do work, after they are used, carried loaded for awhile or do not have a perfect combination of ammunition to springs and magazaine spring age, they will eventually begin to jam.

For those of you saying that your sawed off 1911 works now, good on you, but make sure you test it often, change the springs and re test it often, and retest it again if you switch ammo.

The government models and commander sized pistols seem to suffer none of these afflictions in my eperience and are actually very reliable unless they have a bad extractor.
last i looked, i don't think Nighthawk makes a model with a barrel/slide shorter than 4.25"
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No nighthawk doesnt make anything smaller, I meant I was thinking of getting a SA micro/EMP. Anyways, goin to the costa mesa gun show to talk to some of the other people.
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So I guess I'll ask in this thread... For all you that own one. How difficult is the takedown without the tool?
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^ thanks! Great lookin' pieces btw... I like the aluma grips, makes it look real clean... is there any advantage going 'single' sided safety?
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how do they shoot? Been trying to look up some reviews, and it seems to be a mixed bag of sorts. Some people say they jam up (hollow points) while others love em...
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Mine has been Flawless through several hundred rounds of PMP 115gr FMJ and Ranger 127gr +P+ JHP.

The only feeding problems i'd heard were early models with either over-tight extractors of over-tight chambers...Springfield's Custom Shop has a good track record of fixing them as well as picking up shipping
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Dude, I look at this thing every day and I want!
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How much did you guys get your EMP's for? I'm looking at other 9mm pistols right now and completely forgot about the EMP.
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I got mine for a bit under $1k
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Oh boy.... I'm pretty sure that's out of my budget, lol.
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Very nice !
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I know this is an old thread but from what I see you can't get an EMP 9mm in Sac area for less than $1250
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I got mine from FL. I think I paid $18 for shipping and $60 for the FFL and DROS.

I got it from SCP Firearms, the same place that Eric got his H&K USP

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I'll ping Steve and see if he has any and what kind of prices he's got
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Just brought one home last Thursday.

Paid $1099.00 plus tax and DROS. (Central Coast, Ca.)

FWIT great video on youtube showing how to break it down using that special spring holding tool, and how to prevent "idiot marks".

Type in "Springfield EMP Cleaning"

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Steve didn't have any. Just got done seeing and buying at River City.
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