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I didn't dig out the 2017 class list to compare but it seems there are fewer class options this year.
Did Captain Marhoefer ever host any renewal classes at AVGC, or has the Hesperia station always been the only venue up there?

Seemed to me that the off-site classes were pretty thin, but I never saw last year's schedule. Looks like HQ still runs every month except December.
Only 6 classes in Rancho and 6 in Hesperia (alternate months, so there's still an evening off-site every month), plus 3 classes out in Yuccy Valley.

Given no overlap on date/times, I'm curious if Det Mason hosts all of the classes?
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Did Captain Marhoefer ever host any renewal classes at AVGC, or has the Hesperia station always been the only venue up there?

Seemed to me that the off-site classes were pretty thin, but I never saw last year's schedule. Looks like HQ still runs every month except December.
Only 6 classes in Rancho and 6 in Hesperia (alternate months, so there's still an evening off-site every month), plus 3 classes out in Yuccy Valley.

Given no overlap on date/times, I'm curious if Det Mason hosts all of the classes?
I don't think renewals have ever been anywhere except at SBSD stations.
Never had a class with Det Mason. He must have been doing them later in 2017. My renewal is early in the year.
Just looked at there are about the same number of classes.
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Never had a class with Det Mason. He must have been doing them later in 2017. My renewal is early in the year.
Ya, maybe they rotate assignments. It would make sense... maintains current cross-training/proficiency and helps prevent burnout.
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I live in LA county but own three large business properties in San Bernardino county.

Can apply to SBSO for a CCW due to the fact that I am in or at one of the businesses every day.
Has anyone tried and succeeded or was denied.
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I live in LA county but own three large business properties in San Bernardino county.

Can apply to SBSO for a CCW due to the fact that I am in or at one of the businesses every day.
Has anyone tried and succeeded or was denied.
In theory yes.

The law says if you work in a county you can apply for a permit in that county.

Here's the problem. It's only a "limited" use permit. It's only good in the county that issued it and it's only good for like 2 months.

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In theory yes.

The law says if you work in a county you can apply for a permit in that county.

Here's the problem. It's only a "limited" use permit. It's only good in the county that issued it and it's only good for like 2 months.

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I am just filling out my application and my question is, I had several DUI's in the late 90's. I was a dumb kid. Will this disqualify me?
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I am just filling out my application and my question is, I had several DUI's in the late 90's. I was a dumb kid. Will this disqualify me?
Several???
I don't know if it will but it isn't a good thing.
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Can anyone tell me how the renewal class works at headquarters? Do I need to check in behind the glass or just go in and sit around for the class/my name to be called? Thanks
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Sheriff McMahon of San Bernardino County just walked into my CCW Renewal class and spoke to us. He is a great guy.
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Can anyone tell me how the renewal class works at headquarters? Do I need to check in behind the glass or just go in and sit around for the class/my name to be called? Thanks
Go upstairs, get in line and check in at the door. Have your Postal Money orders and ID in hand so you don't hold up the line.
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Sheriff McMahon of San Bernardino County just walked into my CCW Renewal class and spoke to us. He is a great guy.
He tries to stop in to all the classes.
Ummmmm didn't they request cell phones be put away and turned off?
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Ummmmm didn't they request cell phones be put away and turned off?
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Search for 'casino' and 'indian casino' came up with nothing for SB.
What are the rules for carrying or storage out at San Manuel Casino?
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What are the rules for carrying or storage out at San Manuel Casino?
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I carry in San Manuel, as corny as it is... concealed is concealed. You're not breaking any law, but if they see you they'll probably ask you to leave. Indian reservations in California defer to state gun laws.
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Due to Federal laws (PL 83-280), the CA Penal Code applies to Tribal lands located within California.

Therefore...

It is CA legal to have a handgun in a not in plain sight locked container in your vehicle.
It is CA legal to have an unloaded long gun in your vehicle.

With a valid CA LTC permit, it is CA legal to conceal carry on an indian reservation (indian casino).
However, if discovered carrying, you can/will be asked to leave the reservation.
^Failure to comply, can result in an arrest for trespassing and them contacting your issuing agency.
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Thanks everyone.
Not going there to gamble but the new BBQ place sounds interesting.
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Just remember, if the San Bernardino County Sheriff is involved you will have to report the contact to your IA, which may not be pleased that you carried in a place in which alcohol was served; worse so if you actually had been imbibing. If you are going there for the BBQ, you best not drink.

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Just remember, if the San Bernardino County Sheriff is involved you will have to report the contact to your IA, which may not be pleased that you carried in a place in which alcohol was served; worse so if you actually had been imbibing. If you are going there for the BBQ, you best not drink.
Fully aware of the process and requirement for reporting to IA.

Won't be drinking that is for sure.
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If you are fully aware then good for you. Then you know whether or not you are required to report contact should a tribal PSO ask you to leave and you do so without argument.
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What is your problem?
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Just had my interview this morning. Told me it would be 4-6 months. It could be sooner but I believe they say this so that applicants would not flood their phones with calls about the status of their application.
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Just had my interview this morning. Told me it would be 4-6 months. It could be sooner but I believe they say this so that applicants would not flood their phones with calls about the status of their application.
You may be right - my timeline is:

application 10-18-17
interview 12-1-17 (early appt due to cancellation)
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clear background 2-2-18
range date 2-17-18

Considering the holidays, it would seem they're still processing fairly fast.
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You may be right - my timeline is:

application 10-18-17
interview 12-1-17 (early appt due to cancellation)
redo livescan 12-13-17
clear background 2-2-18
range date 2-17-18

Considering the holidays, it would seem they're still processing fairly fast.

Thanks for the info! you are lucky you got an early appointment. I had my appointment set back in July for today and was trying to get something sooner. My only concern right now is that i'll be out of town almost all of April. Hope I can get a range date next month or at the very least a phone call before I leave. Do you know the number they reached you from so I can save it on my phone?
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Got 2 phone calls - missed the 1st one. They came from 909-387-3750 (the SBSD HR line) and from 909-387-5000 (SBSD main line). Should probably expect anything from a 909-387-XXXX number. Good luck.

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Got 2 phone calls - missed the 1st one. They came from 909-387-3750 (the SBSD HR line) and from 909-387-5000 (SBSD main line). Should probably expect anything from a 909-387-XXXX number. Good luck.
Thank you! Keep us updated on your range day and when your pickup day. Good luck as well!
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Seems to be going fast. Interview 01/22/2018, cleared back ground 02/02/2018 and range set for 02/17/2018. See you there.
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Seems to be going fast. Interview 01/22/2018, cleared back ground 02/02/2018 and range set for 02/17/2018. See you there.
Wow! That's the fastest I've seen go thro here - good for you! Yeah, see you Saturday - and welcome to the forum!
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Glad to hear they are catching up. Most of us a year or two ago were 13 months from app to class, sounds like they've at least cut it in half.
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I have questions regarding the instructions for first time applicants for San Bernardino CCW.
B. ORIGINAL (plus one copy) of the following (NO EXCEPTIONS or you will have to
reschedule):
1. California Driver’s License OR current active military ID and original state ID
2. County certified Birth Certificate or Naturalization papers/certificate
3. Utility bill with your name and service address (phone bills, cable bills, and past
due bills will not be accepted)
4. Current property tax bill, Grant Deed or Rental Agreement in your name
5. Marriage certificate (for each marriage)
6. Military discharge DD214 form, including discharge status

Do I need multiple of these items listed cause I will probably only be able to provide numbers 1 and 3. And 2 if its simply asking for my original birth certificate.
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I have questions regarding the instructions for first time applicants for San Bernardino CCW.
B. ORIGINAL (plus one copy) of the following (NO EXCEPTIONS or you will have to
reschedule):
1. California Driver’s License OR current active military ID and original state ID
2. County certified Birth Certificate or Naturalization papers/certificate
3. Utility bill with your name and service address (phone bills, cable bills, and past
due bills will not be accepted)
4. Current property tax bill, Grant Deed or Rental Agreement in your name
5. Marriage certificate (for each marriage)
6. Military discharge DD214 form, including discharge status

Do I need multiple of these items listed cause I will probably only be able to provide numbers 1 and 3. And 2 if its simply asking for my original birth certificate.
If you've never been married or in the service you can forget about 5 & 6.

If your original birth certificate is certified with the country seal embossed in the paper you are good with that one. If it's not certified you'll need to get one from the county you were born in.

You will need to provide proof that you live in San Bernardino county. To do this you will need to provide a utility bill not more than 3 months old (though I could be wrong on how old it can be).

If you're a renter you'll need your rental agreement. If you're a home owner you can use either your tax bill our your mortgage bill.

If you haven't applied I would recommend that you do that first. You will have several months to get all your paperwork together.

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If you've never been married or in the service you can forget about 5 & 6.

If your original birth certificate is certified with the country seal embossed in the paper you are good with that one. If it's not certified you'll need to get one from the county you were born in.

You will need to provide proof that you live in San Bernardino county. To do this you will need to provide a utility bill not more than 3 months old (though I could be wrong on how old it can be).

If you're a renter you'll need your rental agreement. If you're a home owner you can use either your tax bill our your mortgage bill.

If you haven't applied I would recommend that you do that first. You will have several months to get all your paperwork together.

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I have applied I just wanted to make sure I do everything correct.
As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here. I do not pay rent or anything.
And to clarify, I absolutely need 1,2,3 and 4 at the same time, right?
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I have applied I just wanted to make sure I do everything correct.
As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here. I do not pay rent or anything.
And to clarify, I absolutely need 1,2,3 and 4 at the same time, right?
Correct.

Though if you're still living at home I'm not sure what you're going to need as proof of residency.

I'll send you a pm with Sarah's number. Call her on Monday and explain to her that you live at home and ask her what you'll need to provide for proof of residency.

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Correct.

Though if you're still living at home I'm not sure what you're going to need as proof of residency.

I'll send you a pm with Sarah's number. Call here on Monday and explain to her that you live at home and ask her what you'll need to provide for proof of residency.

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Thank you for the help, and as for my birth certificate I don't think it has a county seal, it just has a seal for the City of Houston Texas
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As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here. I do not pay rent or anything.
Have your father create a rental agreement.
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I have applied I just wanted to make sure I do everything correct.
As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here. I do not pay rent or anything.
And to clarify, I absolutely need 1,2,3 and 4 at the same time, right?
I'm not saying this won't work for you, but when I did my interview back in November the first thing the guy asked was if I lived at home with my parents (likely due to my age, 26). I don't, but he proceeded to say that so many younger applicants try to apply while they still live at home. I think he was implying that they either won't or don't like approving applicants that live with their parents. Just a heads up for you.
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