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Old 02-09-2018, 5:36 PM
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First a little background as a Nevada CCW holder in Nevada, I can CCW in a bar and drink as long as I am not over a BAC of .10. I have a buddy who is a California resident and since his county wont issue a CCW he has an Arizona non-resident permit. In Arizona he cannot CCW in a bar or any establishment whose business is < 49% alcohol related and can not consume alcohol while CCW.

If he comes to visit me in Nevada is his CCW license valid in a bar in Nevada? So, in other words, which state rules do you follow, the rules in the state you are in or the state that issued the CCW?
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Old 02-09-2018, 5:40 PM
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Guns and alcohol are a bad idea, no matter what state you're in.

IF Nevada honors his Arizona CCW I'd play it safe and follow Arizona's rules.

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Old 02-09-2018, 6:36 PM
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The laws of Nevada are applied in Nevada.

The following is a cut and paste from the Arizona DPS CCW page.


CAN I CARRY A FIREARM INTO AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT SERVES ALCOHOLIC DRINKS FOR CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES IF I HAVE MY CCW PERMIT?

Yes, unless the establishment has posted signs prohibiting weapons (A.R.S. 4-229). You may not consume alcohol while in possession of your firearm (A.R.S. 4-244). There are some additional exceptions see A.R.S. 13-3102.
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As other have posted, alcohol and firearms is a bad combination and one should never consume alcohol while carrying, even if it is not prohibited by statute, regulation or rule of the IA. WA prohibits carrying in areas where persons under 21 are prohibited by state alcohol law, so you cannot lawfully carry in bars in WA even if you are not consuming alcohol. On the other hand, Nevada will allow me to carry in Casinos, where alcohol is served and will even allow me consume some alcohol. While not prohibited, it is still a very bad idea. While I am in NV casinos I carry but will not consume any alcohol. If you are ever confronted with a situation where you need to draw you weapon, you do not want an attorney representing the bad guy's family questioning your state of sobriety. So play it safe and utilize the common sense you were given.

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Probably not a good idea...

As CCW holders, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

It's the only way we'll keep our rights.

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Also a common policy for LE agencies to forbid carrying while drinking alcohol off duty.
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Probably not a good idea...

As CCW holders, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard....
I fully agree. And if we don't others will surely try to do so and if they are successful the message will be painful.
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If he comes to visit me in Nevada is his CCW license valid in a bar in Nevada? So, in other words, which state rules do you follow, the rules in the state you are in or the state that issued the CCW?
NV LEOs will treat it as honored.
However, if anything happens in the establishment that sells alcohol for consumption and it's reported to AZ, his AZ CCW permit could be revoked for violating AZ laws prohibiting permit holders from carrying/consuming alcohol while carrying.
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Can and should don't always coincide....
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As Baggss said right above me, there's a difference between "can" and "should". In some states, it's legal to marry your first cousin.

If it can be avoided, I don't want to ever find myself in a situation where I have to convince a police officer that I acted in self defense while my breath smells like beer and whiskey.
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As Baggss said right above me, there's a difference between "can" and "should". In some states, it's legal to marry your first cousin.

If it can be avoided, I don't want to ever find myself in a situation where I have to convince a police officer that I acted in self defense while my breath smells like beer and whiskey.
All of that being said though, I would think that since NV honors AZs permits, the person from AZ would be subject to NVs CCW laws when in NV.

Example: TX recognizes my CA CCW permit, but I still can not carry in places prohibited by TX law (30.05 and 30.06) while in TX just because CA says no guns signs have no force of law.

You follow the rules of the state you are in, with the knowledge is something goes sideways it may effect you CCW in your home state. This is where the "can and should" part comes into play.
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