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1. None of the OGs are there. 2. Probably none of the original owners. 3. Now that there's an 'Audit' for a new owner it won't even be the original FFL. Just sayin... |
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I also went by today. Doors were closed, but i bumped into Paul. He was getting food at Ike's. He said he's overwhelmed with all the calls and emails. He said they're still getting deliveries every day, so if your gun comes in, you'll get it. I'm going to drop by tomorrow at lunch to see if they got my order, but more than likely... I'm just going to get a refund.
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Thank you Please excusr the typos im mobile
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Guys. Be carefull. Theres a.fool.here who.claims.us.dousing the fire with water.makes us coincidently fake forum members. he is delusional so please avoid saying.anything nice about.va. Hahahaha. Jk
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Called yesterday and got their voicemail with an email address to send inquiries to. Sent an email and got a response back from the owner that Paul would be there until 5pm to pick up any non SSE handguns. I rushed out of work and caught Paul as he was locking up. He opened back up and I now have my PPT's.
VA seems to be trying to make things right. I am just glad I now have my PPT's. |
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Just to set the record straight, you sound like a plant to me too. You show up right after this thread and suddenly have all the answers, and even though you claim you have no connection to VA, you amazingly know everything... so here's the thing. No one here GIVES A SH*T how many cops you know or how many weapons you own. You're still the new guy that gives everybody a funny feeling with you walk by. And lastly, I personally don't have a lot of love for the DOJ and ATF, butnat least I understand how their processes work. Even when multiple people told you that you were wrong, you still couldn't admit to it. So, from me and the others who have to put up with your st*t, GTFO. Sincerely, Alfred1222
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i think you greatly misunderstood the response. i am not false i am not fraud, and i dont take kindly to delusional responses to try and defend one self ego..yourself i am speaking of, and no i didnt lose it, im calling you out on your delusional statements, please just leave me alone i am a real person and i dont like being called out by lies accusing me of being someone else. and no i drive slow and mellow and dont hold grudges upon any dumb drivers..hahahaha funny bro and for the record, i dont care how you feel about authority, but if you do your research you will learn that what i posted is moderately correct, even who i spoke with people about who were able to give me info that i passed down, and no matter how new i am - i may be new here but your seniority is not a professional response to being rude and disrespectful i dont care to **** what you think. and yes, being in a circle with police officers and other members of authority actually grants me special permissions with my friends to shoot full auto all day and go from small arms to some of thier larger collections of artillery. most people here would be nice and gain my friendship as i get access to some events and things that most dont. you my friend are a weird person, making things up and stating manipulative repetitive posts how u think im new and leaving a bad taste in your mouth. maybe you should get off your knees and stop sucking then anyways lets just let this get behind us, and all get along. new or not, it doesnt mean ive spent years reading this forum and a few others. and no - your statement about what people care about is incorrect....you my friendliest pal..are a arrogant, ignorant, paranoid delusional individual....i admitted in more than one post, that i was clearly informed by MANY MANY PEOPLE police, doj, and atf members including gun stores on things that must have been a gray "opinion" with others. and dont insult me because i have and do trust some authority....i was a bad child and had issues when i was young, as did a few of my friends. some guys i know where terrible when they were younger. cleaned their lives up, became cops, or higher authority, and ive stayed in close touch with them and chp, and other class 3 collectors in the same group. i dont like many authority but the close guys i know i do trust and respect what they say about firearms. thank you others for correcting me...i simply stood behind my knowledge and understanding but if someone else has experience with the same item im open, thats why i admitted earlier...thanks for informing me, thanks for correcting me and thank you my friend for being such a arrogant person with rude people skills lets be professional, and put this behind us, kay?>thanks
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Time to make you take your own advice.
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yea its true, this guy made me really frustrated, normally im just a really nice and easy going guy. but being accused of such matters justs steams my boat. im a nice guy and ive been a productive member of the firearms community. ive been known in circles to do gunsmithing for free for the last ten years. ive learned alot, but im here for the love. not as such a planted item as the last poster has decided to paint me as. honestly i have no tolerance for online bullying for manipulation. he has no right to assimilate my efforts with a fraud account. its a delusional account on his part and it needs to end. ill defend myself, and i apologize for making it heated, but he posts loaded comments and doesn't expect me to react? or try to slam accusations due to his seniority or something...nah sorry i wont accept that. just because im new has nothing to do with me as a person posting. i have years of experience and im glad to just share with the community. no need for accusations or false commenting to cast a different light on someone just because they are new. that's bullying if u ask me, i wonder how many weggies this guy gave others in school
well thanks again for refreshing the light on the sitch. still va was a good place, and others have responded too personaly, even i got heated at first. i went there, talked to them....and worked my stuff out, and then i posted about it.
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I've heard a lot of pro (shop in Milpitas) and con (new shop in SC). I have limited experience with them over the last 18 months. I "ordered" (but never put any $ down [in hindsight, thankful for that] on a SSE. I was 4th on the "waiting list" for this item for 8+ months. Not their fault, popular item and hard to get anywhere, especially in CA. No harm, no foul. Decided to do the work myself and in a short period of time (used GB), had the item sent to VA for SSE. This was naturally the very week (I didn't know this) that they were moving from Milpitas to SC. So I drive to Milpitas to do the DROS and saw the sign on the door directing me to the new shop. Not far away, so zipped over there. Unfortunately, the item was still at the old shop (WTF?) and they sent someone over to retrieve it. Naturally it was terrible traffic and a bunch of other issues, so they read the SN (which I already had) over the phone and started the DROS paperwork and all went relatively well (except not seeing the firearm - which bothered me a bit). 10 days later I go to pick it up and whomever did the SSE wasn't so careful with the takedown latch as I now had a free idiot scratch (very light, but it's there - can I prove they did it? No. Was it in the pictures from the original seller? No. I'm in a no win scenario, so it's not worth trying to point fingers. Live and learn, next time I'd inspect the PHYSICAL firearm and document the condition with the staff via pics. The vibe of the shop at "move week" was positive and it looked like they were going to turn into a nice shop (never stepped into the previous shop). The vibe at SSE pickup 10 days later however was different. More of a clique, guys (based on how they were hanging out at the counter and walking back/forth behind it, seemed to be employees) "hanging out" and shooting the breeze (if I had youngsters with me, I would have left based on the language and topics discussed - not so professional IMO). No one seemed too interested in even asking "can I help you". I had to break into a "shooting the breeze" conversation to say I'm here (after standing at the counter holding paperwork for a few minutes) for a SSE pickup. I noted the idiot scratch as soon as he brought out the gun. Bit of a let down, especially for an 07 FFL. Based on my overall experience, it was a one time relationship for me. So, from my perspective, the "new" VA (I'd bet on a name change) might be a good thing. Good to see a LGS remain in the area. Sometimes a staff/ownership change is just what's needed to make a big difference. The customer focus on the PPTs/refunds I'm reading here already indicate a significant change for the better IMO. |
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Anybody else out there trying to pick up a SSE? Seems that some are getting responses fairly quickly, but others (me at least) aren't. Sounds like they don't have the manpower (or capability?) of completing the SSE at this point- I was supposed to be able pick up my 1911 on 12/1, DROS was done on 11/21. I've sent 2 email now, and left a message on their voicemail which has changed again as of last night.
Just curious if anyone else waiting for SSE has been contacted. Last edited by bbogert; 12-05-2012 at 9:09 AM.. |
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I tried to read through all the speculation contained in this thread, and failed.
Can someone please sum up the current state of facts at the moment? As far as I can tell, the only thing that people know for certain is that their doors are closed and they are giving refunds. Correct? -Freq
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Wish they would return my calls and emails. My cousin and I have transfered pistols in their possession. Just want them sent out. I emailed yesterday at @2pm.oyhets that emailed an hour before me have already gotten return calls or emails.
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Wow, that was an amazingly long thread with very little useful information.
I'm always sad to hear about any shop closing or having trouble, but it seems VA was always riding that fine line. Thanks to the mods for banning the FUD spreader. I don't think I have ever read so much bad information from one person before. As for a new owner, I just wonder why anyone would buy a business with no inventory and a questionable reputation? Why not just get an FFL and open a new shop? Should be interesting to see how this plays out. Best of luck to all involved.
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No doubt. The selective response is very frustrating...
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I say its a good call taking over the co.. everyone one knows its location already and they will get many people coming in from the past traffic.. Just cause there were no guns in the cases doesnt mean they werent in the safe. THink everyone needs to just wait it out and see what happens.. Already sounds like this Paul is doing what ever he can to make the things he can right.... Only time will tell.. |
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I totally agree. The fact that people are getting responses and they most likely sent an email and /or called after me is the frustrating part. Take care of the emails in order in which they are received. Easy Way to stay organized and none get overlooked. I just want my pistol packed up and out of there. Return it to sender for all I care at this point. I want to make sure my pistol is accounted for and out of this mess.
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Lol and the banhammer swings again!!
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I'm hoping that the change of ownership works out for them as well. Until about a week ago they were my "go-to" shop. |
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Just got a call back from Paul. Apparently they charged me but never actually placed the order. I'm heading there after work for a refund. Crazy... I have followed up 3 times since i put in the order and they said it just hadn't come in yet.
What they did say is that they dont do their own purchasing, that they have a "supplier" who randomly fills orders and ships in the guns. Is that even normal practice? |
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I am glad I didn't get the $1,000 PPQ from them. Did you pay cash or card?
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Agreed. Having a shop relatively local to do SSE was/is nice. New "owner" means months of FFL "process" and if the new owner will be an 01, no more SSE. This is a story still unraveling/reforming as we type, so it should be interesting...reminds me of BE Castro Valley and their "change" which equated to months of FFL status "updates".
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Not sure how that will all be handled. I would assume since they did not declare bankruptcy and those who have paid probably have receipts, the new ownership is probably (always a gray area) liable for the "contract" of either fulfilling the delivery or refunding the payment due to non-delivery. This is one drama-filled thread for sure. |
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I have very limited and possibly incorrect info so digest it/value it as you wish.
I have not talked to any VA people in the last two-ish weeks. Don't ask me more, cuz I don't know it, but:
I do think it is irrational for people saying shops should buy various rara avis guns for SSEing and not have to pay up front. Customers flake a lot ("I just lost my job" etc.) and then the dealer is left with a buncha inventory that may not be of real general interest.
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Thanks Bill. It does seem that VA was merged with 10-8 Supply according the to address on the yelp page unless that is old news? http://www.yelp.com/biz/10-8-police-supply-santa-clara
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Thats a shame. I really liked the shop when it was in Milpitas. I have a 1911 that should be done soon that I had planned to SSE at their new location. I hope I can find another shop that does SSE on 1911's.
I emailed Metal dog and am waiting for a reply. Any one else have any suggestions? |
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Care to share when you called/emailed? That way everyone who has done the same can see where they stand. Looks like they are going out of order or being selective. Thanks
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Sorry for the back to back replies, I just got a call from the DOJ (I called them yesterday to get some information). Their systems are showing everything is in order as far as they can see with Valkyrie. The agent on the phone said there are 4 audits happening today in Valkyrie's location and he is going to track down the agents to verify if Valkyrie is one of them. He also suggested I call ATF to see if they have any records of an audit. He did make mention that they would "in the majority of cases" not shut down a business during their audits. It would have to be an extreme case/violation for them to do so. But he mentioned the ATF would. He's going to give me a call back and let me know what he finds out.
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I registered here just to do a search on Valkyrie Arms to see if something was up with them. Glad to find out that I'm not the only unhappy customer.
I also am wating for a pistol which I already paid for in full. When I was inquiring on the pistol, I specifically told them that if their order took more then a month, I would buy it online and have it shipped to them. They assured me that the pistol would come in less then a month. I'm going on my fourth month!!!!! Purchased my BG380 on August 21st. I've called them with no success, stopped by their store three times including today with no success. I am going to email them, but really would like to speak to a human being about this situation. I am very patient and will always give a store the benefit of the doubt, but this is plain ridiculous. Anyway, enough of my rant. Going to email them and see if they'll respond in a timely manner. |
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