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The one thing I know about the guy is he is a law and order conservative who does not bow to political influence, but I don't know his personal view on guns. That alone sets him far apart from much of the rest of the CD Bench.
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Sorry. Replace "county" with "federal" and my question still stands.

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I've heard that about him.

Like I said earlier, I wish you luck...

Have any of the attorneys that are active in firearms and here on CGN offered any opinion or assistance?

I am just curious, not that it is any of my business…
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Gura won't take on central district though he said he was going to file an eastern district case. It appears his northern district case is still pending a motion to amend. I met with Michel, and Gene sent Davis to attend. They are not interested in getting involved at this point. peruta and nordyke decisions are due by the end of the year and I think we are all just waiting to see what happens with both of those.
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A lot depends on Nordyke and Peruta. If by some miracle both come down in our favor, and by the end of the year, then I will try and file my motion for summary judgment by the end of January with the hopes that we would have a favorable order in Los Angeles by next summer, but that is truly a best case and unlikely scenario. They will likely file a motion to dismiss and we will have to wait for a ruling on that, which could take months. there is also a small chance of a stay, and if Peruta and/or Nordyke go south then this isnt the right time for this fight in the Central District. My plan is to move this as fast as i can if Peruta and Nordyke are favorable.
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jonbirdt,

You have already been advised by Gene,Brandon,Gray and Chuck as to why this is an inopportune time for your case to be filed. This is not the forum or the thread for you to try and garner support for your actions as it is outside of the scope of the CCW Project.
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Gura has Richards v. Prieto (formerly Sykes v. McGinness) in the Eastern District. Was he going to file another one, maybe you reversed it, the motion to amend is pending in Richards v. Prieto. Maybe he has something for the Northern District coming up...

Once again, Good luck...
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Gura has Richards v. Prieto (formerly Sykes v. McGinness) in the Eastern District. Was he going to file another one, maybe you reversed it, the motion to amend is pending in Richards v. Prieto. Maybe he has something for the Northern District coming up...

Once again, Good luck...
I believe that Mr. Birdt is confused about which district courts are where. Richards has been fully amended.

I also would not characterize the universal advice given in the same way.

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I believe that Mr. Birdt is confused about which district courts are where. Richards has been fully amended.

I also would not characterize the universal advice given in the same way.

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Sorry Gene, I must have misread the docket...

I knew there was a stipulated motion to amend with the amended complaint filed... I didn't notice whether the Judge had actually signed off on the motion...
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Gene- you can't censor what I say by deleting my posts and then respond the way you want. oh wait, yeah, you can, you control the information you choose to feed no matter how wrong it is. Given your censorship and lies I will not post on this group anymore and once again renew my request to have you delete my account. good luck comrade.
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Gene- you can't censor what I say by deleting my posts and then respond the way you want. oh wait, yeah, you can, you control the information you choose to feed no matter how wrong it is. Given your censorship and lies I will not post on this group anymore and once again renew my request to have you delete my account. good luck comrade.
The decision to moderate your posts in the LA County forum as off-topic was mine, not Gene's. Perpetuating your own victimhood by your reactions is pretty epic.
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Gene- you can't censor what I say by deleting my posts and then respond the way you want. oh wait, yeah, you can, you control the information you choose to feed no matter how wrong it is. Given your censorship and lies I will not post on this group anymore and once again renew my request to have you delete my account. good luck comrade.
I'd suggest you take this to the 2A forum where it's not off topic. I'd also suggest you start being honest with this community.

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I can only imagine Baca hasn't been cooperative to requests for good cause statements. Not a surprise. Any updates for LA county?
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i am very interested in get my ccw, but as most people in this county, i have no good cause that would be good enough for the MAN, even though self-protection should be. o well, the joy of living in an overpriced city!
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Does anyone here live in LA and have a CCW?
I doubt that any liberal movie stars or politicians frequent this site.
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I know of two people that live in L.A. County (outside the city of L.A.) that have CCW permits issued to them by the county sheriff. I know they have "good cause" i.e. carrying large amounts of cash/jewelry. But I would really like to know what else constitutes "good cause" at this time. I work in property owned by me in neighborhoods such as South L.A. and Compton. My livelihood also depends on my driving from said work place through these neighborhoods. I have had no break ins in my property for over 7 years that I've been there. Vandalism on the outside and someone broke a window during regular business hours. Cars have occasionally been broken into. At worst, one or two people came into my businesses carrying a screwdriver for no good reason. LAPD was called in one instance and the person was escorted out by them. Before I worked there, there was a person shot on the street and tried coming into our locked business for assistance. The employees didn't open the door, but called 911. Something tells me none of this is enough for a "good cause". Clearly, the potential for violence does exist at a higher rate in the neighborhoods in which I work, but to have wait for a more violent incident to occur in order to have "good cause" makes me livid.
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This might be a stupid question but...what is the benefit of waiting to turn them all in together?
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We need certain ducks to line up before we submit. Such as publicly available "Good Cause Statements" and other legal pieces. Once those are in place then we apply which opens up the county Sheriff upon refusal to litigation.
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I am completing sections 1-5 like it says. On the first page it ask to sign your name/date and under that has a witness signature/badge number. Who do I have sign the witness/badge number? Someone there when I drop off my packet?
Section 1-5 of what? Are you applying for a CCW in LA County?
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Section 1-5 of what? Are you applying for a CCW in LA County?
Correct, sections 1-5 of the CCW application. Sorry I should have said that.
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I thought we are supposed to wait???
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I thought we are supposed to wait???

It has been recommended that we wait.

There are always some people who run off & do something half assed...

He'll be back here in a few months complaining that he has been denied.
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My wife made the observation that it is interesting that one may possibly qualify for a CCW if carrying large amounts of cash/jewelry...

but a CCW for protecting your children would not be a qualifying reason.

Our priorities as a society are sadly misplaced.

"But the guy carrying the money is most likely to be robbed!"

And the single mother with children in tow/elderly person/disabled person isn't likely to be victimized?

No. They're just not as important as the movie stars, politicians, and political donors.

Your kid can commit murder and if you're politically connected enough, you can get his sentence lightened.
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No. They're just not as important as the movie stars, politicians, and political donors.
And that's the sickness we must cure from the system in order for things to change in our favor for CCW.
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Received a letter from the Sheriff Dept. They said since the city I live in is incorporated I need to apply to them first. If the chief of police denies my request for a CCW then I need to send everything to the Sheriff. So time to fill out some forms to the P.D.
Requiring that you apply to your local police department is improper. It is not supported by statute...
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I seem to recall expecting this result....

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There are always some people who run off & do something half assed...

He'll be back here in a few months complaining that he has been denied.
Why don't you read this thread from the beginning, and then contact Wildhawker or Gray Peterson...
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So should we have the ccw form ready and filled out and we wait to turn it all in together? Or should I just fill it out when the time comes?
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