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Old 09-17-2014, 10:48 AM
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Default Recommendations for a good .22 air rifle

I have a Benjamin Regal NP in .177.
It's a great rifle, but I want to add a .22 into the mix.

I'll use it for small game like squirrel and rabbit, along with target shooting. I've been perusing the Pyramyd Air website, but there are so many choices I don't really know where to begin.

What do you have? How do you like it?
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I'm partial to the RWS guns. The model 34 RWS line is great quality, accurate, and pack a punch. I've got the 34 Diana and it gets a lot of use against rabbits, squirrels, rats, etc. The Diana is a bit pricey but other 34's have the same action, just different finish.
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I'm partial to the RWS guns. The model 34 RWS line is great quality, accurate, and pack a punch. I've got the 34 Diana and it gets a lot of use against rabbits, squirrels, rats, etc. The Diana is a bit pricey but other 34's have the same action, just different finish.
Those are some good looking air rifles.
I'm a sucker for a rifle with beautiful wood and those rifles have some nice stocks.

For those interested...
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/rws.html
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i have a 34. would recommend. But only if you wanna stack pellets on top of each other.
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It really depends on how much time and money you want to throw at it. If you want an inexpensive pump, I have a few old Benjamins I've been contemplating selling. If you want expensive, you can spend a couple grand on a PCP set up. If you want a less expensive spring piston type rifle, I am partial to the ones with integral surpressors. I keep a Gamo .22 Silent Cat on my Mule for everyday ranch use. It is quieter when shooting pests or even harvesting upland birds and sometimes allows me a second shot.
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I really like the Benjamin Trail NP.

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I really like the Benjamin Trail NP.

Nice looking rifle.
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Benjamin .22 np in my window shopping...

Wally World has it for < $200
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Theoben Rapid 12 mk 2 is a very nice riffle for about $2500 total setup including a nice scope, come in US or English made. 120 yard shots on pigeons or rabbits is no problem for this riffle, comes in .22 or .177. I like my .22 so much that i bought a second one exactly the same, bit heavy but very accurate. You can also get s510 carbine. This gun is a lot lighter and also capable of making accurate 100 + yard shots. cost about $950 dollars. Most all riffles mentioned above are ok for 40 or 60 yards, but longer ranges can be very challenging.
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It really depends on how much time and money you want to throw at it. If you want an inexpensive pump, I have a few old Benjamins I've been contemplating selling. If you want expensive, you can spend a couple grand on a PCP set up. If you want a less expensive spring piston type rifle, I am partial to the ones with integral surpressors. I keep a Gamo .22 Silent Cat on my Mule for everyday ranch use. It is quieter when shooting pests or even harvesting upland birds and sometimes allows me a second shot.
What Upland Birds are you harvesting?
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Mostly dove, pigeon, rabbit. Sometimes quail and pheasant, when I am in Mexico.
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I use a RWS 22 caliber.It is fine for a air rifle,but the trigger kind of s*cks.It is hard to pull.To be accurate I have to concentrate on how I pull it.
For hunting I love 22 rimfires.To be quiet I use the CCI Quiets or CCI CB Longs.In a bolt action or a lever.
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I have the Hatsan 95 Vortex in .22 caliber and I am very happy with it. The walnut stock is very hefty -- in combination with the gas piston it reduces recoil. I don't need to use the artillery hold. The gun shoots .22 lead pellets at greater than 800 fps; .177 exceeds 1000 fps.

Consistently accurate shooter. Shooting at my spinners in the back yard has been a great way to practice, especially with .22 LR being so scarce.

Hatsan is Turkish-made, and I am very happy with it. I paid $200 for the gas piston version, the springer version was $55 less, but I'm glad I paid up. Both versions come with a 3-9x32 scope, but the image is not sharp.

The gun comes with Hatsan's "Quatro" trigger, which is adjustable for travel and pull weight, but mine was perfect right out of the box.

I had a problem with the gun that required a return to Hatsan USA, and they were very accommodating. Very quick turnaround. The action screws worked lose (which I didn't realize), which manifest as a failure to hold zero, then suddenly they were so lose that the action came lose from the stock when I was cocking it. Cracked the stock. They replaced it, no problem. Since then I have used Loctite on the action screws to make them secure and have had no problem. Very accurate, even with inexpensive Crosman ammo.

I bought mine from Pyramyd Air, and their aftermarket support has been excellent.

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Another vote for RWS. I have the RWS 350 P Magnum, and I love this gun. I have harvested many critters (rabbits, squirrels, turkeys) and it is fun to shoot. The gun itself is heavy, but it has a nice trigger and provides a lot of power. Some day, I will step up to the Benjamin Marauder in .25, but that requires a big investment (tank, regulator, etc).
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I have a FX Verminator PCP in .22
Very accurate, quiet but expensive about $1800
But if I were to do it all over, I would buy a FX bullpup model Bobcat.
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rws54 owner, would not trade it for any other springer air rifle. hardly any noticeable recoil, does not need artillery hold, and is accurate out of the box.
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The sad thing about Break barrel Spring Guns is that you are limited to Made in China (Crosman), Made in Spain (Gamo) or Made in Germany Diana or HW (expensive). You have to take them apart, regardless of what you buy. It's not difficult. You take some 2x4 boards and a C-clamp, and have at it. After it's taken apart, you apply moly lube to the compression chamber and tar lube to the spring. That keeps the gun from busting your scopes, and it makes the shot cycle nice. The China guns are throw aways. If you don't want a throw away scenario, go German, learn how to service it, and shoot straight. Good luck.
Not all crosman guns are made in China some of the nicer ones are made here in the USA. They certainly aren't all throw away guns either.
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I have a Benjamin Regal NP in .177.
It's a great rifle, but I want to add a .22 into the mix.

I'll use it for small game like squirrel and rabbit, along with target shooting. I've been perusing the Pyramyd Air website, but there are so many choices I don't really know where to begin.

What do you have? How do you like it?
I recommend you talk to PA about the Hatsan 95 Vortex, at about half the price of the RWS 34. I am very happy with that choice. I have no others to compare it with, but it is solid, accurate and modestly priced. See my reply elsewhere to inquiry about the Hatsan.
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I really like my Hatsan 125 Sniper. I think it comes in 22...
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The sad thing about Break barrel Spring Guns is that you are limited to Made in China (Crosman), Made in Spain (Gamo) or Made in Germany Diana or HW (expensive). You have to take them apart, regardless of what you buy. It's not difficult. You take some 2x4 boards and a C-clamp, and have at it. After it's taken apart, you apply moly lube to the compression chamber and tar lube to the spring. That keeps the gun from busting your scopes, and it makes the shot cycle nice. The China guns are throw aways. If you don't want a throw away scenario, go German, learn how to service it, and shoot straight. Good luck.
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The action screws worked lose (which I didn't realize), which manifest as a failure to hold zero, then suddenly they were so lose that the action came lose from the stock when I was cocking it. Cracked the stock. They replaced it, no problem. Since then I have used Loctite on the action screws to make them secure and have had no problem. Very accurate, even with inexpensive Crosman ammo.
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OHOD: I have the NP in both .177 and .22.
The .22 carries farther, has more ooomph and is quieter than the .177
Both the .177 and .22 use the same moderator, the exit hole is more completely filled with the .22 pellet, it is oversized with the .177.
The .22 is as quiet or quieter than my old Gamo Whisper.
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What kind of action OHOD? Break barrel, pcp, multipump? I have a multi pump Sheridan .22. Shoots up to 700 fox aND can easily take pest birds. Around $120.
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PCP's are the latest and greatest if you and afford to set it all up. My new Hatsan AT44 QE Long is the bomb.
But my 1st .22 cal is a RWS 48/54 from 1991 tuned with Vortek Pro Guide 2 kit, honed, chamfered, debured, 12x scope. my bests are .4" group of 3 at 60yds, a bird taken at 71yds and one at 101yds.
I believe this will be for sale since I now have a PCP.
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Love my benjamin regal np in .22. Goes on sale at big 5 all the time.

OHOD consider the Charlie da Tuna trigger upgrade on your existing benji. It's extremely worth it.

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Also worth considering is the Air Arms brand manufactured in the UK. Their products are beautiful, accurate and well made. And, while not inexpensive, you will never regret owning one.
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Benjamin. I have ones that are 50 yrs old and still work great.
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Benjamin multipump if you have the muscles for it.
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Benjamin. I have ones that are 50 yrs old and still work great.
Not to happy with my Benjamin nitro power 22xl !
The center point scope fell a part in the first hundred round's
Very loud easily as loud as a 22 short
Shoot's 3 inch groups at 50 feet.
Some reviewers claim that they shoot better after 500 round's
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I have the Benjamen NP Varmint package in 22. I had a 397 in 22, but the seals went after decades. And rather than be w/o an Air Rifle, I bought this on a lark to keep me going until I can overhaul the Sheridan...

I was put off at first with the whole thing - it's my first break barrel... Trigger is gritty and a bit of creaper. BUT, it's getting better as I shoot. The CenterPoint scope is a $5 throw away. It's OK if the target is front lighted, but shooting anywhere near the sun direction and it washes out Have not used the laser or the flash light ...

But was very impressed with quiet (shrouded barrel) and the overall feel of the rifle in hand, more so as I got used to it. Not the equal feel of my center fire rifles, but close enough. And it shoots flat enough and hits with authority

So I started swapping on scopes from my used pile. The Weaver V7 was busted and I did not know it - wouldn't hold position. But it showed me that at 2.5'ish, it offered the expanded field of view I needed to keep up with fast moving pests (Rats, Squirrels, Rabbits - things that eat my wife's garden and nut crop ...). It also showed that the sun flare could be tamed, which I pretty much knew.

So on went the Kassnar 3x9 at 3, and the groups started to tighten up. Switched from Diablo round heads to Discovery Hollow Round heads at 14.3 gr and it got better. Started putting more pellets down range. Around a 100 pellets and it's coming in nicely. Still want another trigger (someday), but it'll do for now. Even with uneven hunting ammo it'll group <1.5" at a measured 30 meters. A fair number will expand the same hole. So I know it's the ammo, not the rifle. Eventually I settled on a Weaver K1.5-1 Micro-Trac which gives me a big field of view and still a decent target hold.

I was so pleased with the way things are going, that I ordered a Regal this week for the upstairs porch. That way I have a synthetic stock "shop rifle" and wood stocked "house rifle" - both with the shrouded barrel. The regal will get a 2.5 gloss scope and gloss mounts to keep it pretty. The Varmint kept the matte rings supplied and has the blue steel Weaver which compliments the syn stock and blued steel parts

I like the firing feel of the NP system. Pushes back about like 223 or a 22 Hornet. No reverse recoil, no spring noise, quiet enough that the neighbors don't complain. They come over to look if I'm tuning an 06, or even playing with a 22 This thing is quiet enough that they don't even look.

One neighbor would look over if he heard the Sheridan on 8 pumps. This thing - nada

I could have spent more, but this does just fine for a good utility critter getter

And, here's some more discussion with pics

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=951787

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I had blue streak 40 years ago and was a tack drive most accurate air gun I've ever fired.
The center point I had the cross hair's fell out!
As far as the nitro posers go I wonder if the XL is less accurately? I really want to like it because the wife got it for Christmas.
The Xl is ten times louder than the bule streak I set in the back of the barn and shoot.
May be I will some deferent pellet's I would be happy with 1.5 inch groups at 30 meters but not feet.

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I think these need to be the shrouded barrel models to be quiet'ish. I'm sure the Blue Streak was/is quieter, but this is OK outdoors

Mine needed at least 100 pellets through it before it settled down. Also need to lube the barrel hinge points and clean the breech area real well. Seat the pellet the same every time and close the barrel the same every time. Tight fitting pellets work best. I ahve not found a way to size sort a tin of 500 pellets yet... Maybe something will come to me?

But as I got used to it, it's working OK now. I will get aftermarket triggers for mine ...

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Go pcp or go home!
I run a Tuned Benjamin marauder and 6-24x50mm optics.
Sends 18gr jsb jumbos right at 900fps. Im getting about 28-30 shots per fill from 2800psi down to 2000psi and extreme spread of 18fps from shot 1 to shot 30. It sends pellet through the same hole all day and its critters worst nightmare. Hits em like a sledge hammer (30fpe) and quiet as a mouse fart.
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I run a Tuned Benjamin marauder and 6-24x50mm optics.
Sends 18gr jsb jumbos right at 900fps. Im getting about 28-30 shots per fill from 2800psi down to 2000psi and extreme spread of 18fps from shot 1 to shot 30. It sends pellet through the same hole all day and its critters worst nightmare. Hits em like a sledge hammer (30fpe) and quiet as a mouse fart.
Do you fill off scuba tanks?
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If you want to get into a PCP gun cheap I am selling my Benjamin marauder in .25 for $400.

Gun, Pump, 4-16 mildot scope and some ammo. I am over $800 into it.
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