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Old 03-13-2014, 2:56 PM
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ETA: The discussion started about competition but went towards local laws regarding using airguns on private property.


For looking up your local city and county codes, please try their respective websites or try the link below (thank you rivraton).
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You can find some city codes here:
http://www.municode.com/Library



- Los Angeles County -

The Los Angeles County Code mentions the following about the airguns (from Municode.com):


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"13.63.010 Replica firearms and firearms—Definitions.

A.

As used in this chapter, the term "replica firearm" means and shall include any device or object made of plastic, wood, metal, or any other material, which is a facsimile or toy version of or is otherwise recognizable as a pistol, revolver, shotgun, sawed-off shotgun, rifle, machine gun, rocket launcher, or any other firearm, as that term is used under the provisions of Sections 12001, 12001.5, 12020(d)(1) and 12570 of the State Penal Code.

B.

For the purposes of this chapter, the meaning of "firearm" shall be the same as the meaning of that term under the State Dangerous Weapons Control laws, and shall include air rifles, pellet guns or BB guns.

(Ord. 87-0145 § 1 (part), 1987.)


13.63.020 Unlawful activities involving replica or simulated firearms.

Every person who, except in self-defense, in the presence of any other person, draws, exhibits or brandishes a replica firearm, or who simulates a firearm in a rude, angry and threatening manner, or who in any manner unlawfully uses the same in any fight or quarrel and causes the victim to reasonably believe that the person is actually in possession of an operable firearm, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(Ord. 87-0145 § 1 (part), 1987.)"

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"17.04.620 Firearms and other weapons.

A person shall not bring into, discharge, or shoot any firearms, air gun, slingshot, or bow and arrow in any park except at areas designated for such purpose by the director.

(Ord. 10729 § 7, 1973: Ord. 10309 Art. 3 § 34, 1971.) "

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"17.12.410 Shooting weapons prohibited.

A person shall not discharge or shoot any firearms, air gun, slingshot or bow and arrow anywhere on a beach.

(Ord. 9767 Art. 3 § 34, 1969.)"

Forum member Lifeon2whls also pointed out the following code that may be an issue (thank you):

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"13.66.040 Discharging firearms—Restrictions generally.

A person shall not shoot, fire or discharge, and a person, firm or corporation shall not cause or permit to be shot, fired or discharged, any rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm in the general direction of any house, camp or place of human habitation, or in the general direction of any public highway, road, street, way, park or premises, unless the place from which such rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm is shot, fired or discharged is at least one-half mile distant from such house, camp or place of human habitation, or is at least one-half mile distant from that portion of such public highway, road, street, way, park or premises toward which such rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm is shot, fired or discharged. The exception in Section 13.66.010 to destroying or killing any predatory or dangerous animal does not apply to this section.

(Ord. 7381 § 1 (part), 1958: Ord. 1769 Art. 3 § 304, 1929.)"



Posted by forum member turbobuick86 regarding unincorporated Los Angeles County (thank you):
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I, too, found this older thread while googling if it were legal to shoot airguns in unincorporated Los Angeles County. I was somewhat confused by the discussion here and I called our local Norwalk Sheriff's Station and inquired. His answer was it was perfectly legal to shoot airguns as long as no property damage was involved to surrounding buildings/homes/parks/autos etc..

The short answer would be call your local enforcement agency. Much is dependent on which municipality you live.





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Sec. 2-5-237. Firearms, weapons, fireworks, replica firearms.

No person shall have any fireworks, firearms, replica firearms, air gun, BB gun, paint ball gun, slingshot or bow or hunting arrow or any weapon in his possession or in his vehicle, other than in a closed trunk, storage compartment or other area separated from the passenger section of the vehicle, in a designated park, nor shall any person discharge any firearm, fireworks or weapon or display any replica firearm upon or into any designated park

(Ord. No. 99-22, § 1, 8-31-99)


Hi All,

Saw this forum for the first time today (literally did a triple take).

I am somewhat new to the airguns scene, having started about a year ago with a Daisy Powerline 880 and its been getting a lot more use lately.

I have been using it to work on my breathing and trigger skills, but recently started focusing on accuracy as well.

My range is the backyard, with about 30 yards of safely use-able space. I tend to make my pellet traps with boxes with filled with lots and lots of packing material (in this Amazon/eBay age, I'm sure lots of us have boxes at home). For targets, I either print them off the internet (several websites) or use the NRA 5 meter ones that came with the Daisy.

So anywhoo, I was thinking it would be cool to start a thread on friendly backyard plinking competitions. I think it may help us with our skills. We can keep it simple and everyone can just post pictures of how they did what whatever they have available. Or we can agree on some specifics to make it more competitive: decide on a do-able backyard-specific distance and type of target(s). The rifle and ammo can be up to the user. Bench-rest vs standing. Maybe do a separate one for air handguns?

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Hi All,

Saw this forum for the first time today (literally did a triple take).

I am somewhat new to the airguns scene, having started about a year ago with a Daisy Powerline 880 and its been getting a lot more use lately.

I have been using it to work on my breathing and trigger skills, but recently started focusing on accuracy as well.

My range is the backyard, with about 30 yards of safely use-able space. I tend to make my pellet traps with boxes with filled with lots and lots of packing material (in this Amazon/eBay age, I'm sure lots of us have boxes at home). For targets, I either print them off the internet (several websites) or use the NRA 5 meter ones that came with the Daisy.

So anywhoo, I was thinking it would be cool to start a thread on friendly backyard plinking competitions. I think it may help us with our skills. We can keep it simple and everyone can just post pictures of how they did what whatever they have available. Or we can agree on some specifics to make it more competitive: decide on a do-able backyard-specific distance and type of target(s). The rifle and ammo can be up to the user. Bench-rest vs standing. Maybe do a separate one for air handguns?

Thoughts?
That sounds awesome, but check your local listings before proceeding. For example, I live in the city of Los Angeles, and the L.A. Municipal Code prohibits the discharge of any "air-gun, air-rifle or air-pistol, or any spring-gun, spring-rifle or spring-pistol, or any carbon dioxide or other gas operated gun, rifle or pistol" within the city limits, unless you have the proper permits.

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That sounds awesome, but check your local listings before proceeding. For example, I live in the city of Los Angeles, and the L.A. Municipal Code prohibits the discharge of any "air-gun, air-rifle or air-pistol, or any spring-gun, spring-rifle or spring-pistol, or any carbon dioxide or other gas operated gun, rifle or pistol" within the city limits, unless you have the proper permits.
is that a city or county ordinance?
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That sounds awesome, but check your local listings before proceeding. For example, I live in the city of Los Angeles, and the L.A. Municipal Code prohibits the discharge of any "air-gun, air-rifle or air-pistol, or any spring-gun, spring-rifle or spring-pistol, or any carbon dioxide or other gas operated gun, rifle or pistol" within the city limits, unless you have the proper permits.
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is that a city or county ordinance?
Damn, had not heard about that. So I went ahead and did a search for Los Angeles County as well as my city.


The Los Angeles County Code mentions the following about the airguns (from Municode.com):


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"13.63.010 Replica firearms and firearms—Definitions.

A.

As used in this chapter, the term "replica firearm" means and shall include any device or object made of plastic, wood, metal, or any other material, which is a facsimile or toy version of or is otherwise recognizable as a pistol, revolver, shotgun, sawed-off shotgun, rifle, machine gun, rocket launcher, or any other firearm, as that term is used under the provisions of Sections 12001, 12001.5, 12020(d)(1) and 12570 of the State Penal Code.

B.

For the purposes of this chapter, the meaning of "firearm" shall be the same as the meaning of that term under the State Dangerous Weapons Control laws, and shall include air rifles, pellet guns or BB guns.

(Ord. 87-0145 § 1 (part), 1987.)


13.63.020 Unlawful activities involving replica or simulated firearms.

Every person who, except in self-defense, in the presence of any other person, draws, exhibits or brandishes a replica firearm, or who simulates a firearm in a rude, angry and threatening manner, or who in any manner unlawfully uses the same in any fight or quarrel and causes the victim to reasonably believe that the person is actually in possession of an operable firearm, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(Ord. 87-0145 § 1 (part), 1987.)"

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"17.04.620 Firearms and other weapons.

A person shall not bring into, discharge, or shoot any firearms, air gun, slingshot, or bow and arrow in any park except at areas designated for such purpose by the director.

(Ord. 10729 § 7, 1973: Ord. 10309 Art. 3 § 34, 1971.) "

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"17.12.410 Shooting weapons prohibited.

A person shall not discharge or shoot any firearms, air gun, slingshot or bow and arrow anywhere on a beach.

(Ord. 9767 Art. 3 § 34, 1969.)"

For me, city code says it good to go as long as its on private property and all minors are supervised by an adult.

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Down in Garden Grove is a no go with airguns, but apparently airsoft is good to go, even in the streets.

I found out when I called in to complain about my neighbor, stinkin kids kept hitting my window. I was told they could even airsoft in the park, but when I asked about shooting my BB gun in the backyard, told me straight up no. Never bothered looking it up though
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If you want local competition and a group of cool people, join CASA...


The shoot every saturday and have competitions regularly. I advocated for this forum, but they were thinking of it before I ever posted..


http://socasa.org
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Down in Garden Grove is a no go with airguns, but apparently airsoft is good to go, even in the streets.

I found out when I called in to complain about my neighbor, stinkin kids kept hitting my window. I was told they could even airsoft in the park, but when I asked about shooting my BB gun in the backyard, told me straight up no. Never bothered looking it up though
Apparently, you need a permit:
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SECTION 8.32.070: Discharging Firearms -- Permit

No person shall fire, shoot, or discharge any gun, rifle, pistol, or other firearm, or any air-gun, air-rifle or air-pistol, or any spring-gun, spring-rifle or spring-pistol, or any carbon dioxide or other gas operated gun, rifle or pistol without having first obtained a written permit from the Police Chief. A permit shall be issued for periods not exceeding twelve (12) months at a time and only where the facts presented indicate no danger to life, limb, or property will be involved.

PROHIBITION OF WEAPONS ON SCHOOL GROUNDS AND PENALTY. Possession of any weapon or apparatus capable of emitting or shooting a projectile, including, but not limited to: paint ball guns; flare pistols; pellet guns; BB guns; pressurized air guns; spring pressure guns; CO2 guns; and sling shots and wrist rockets, on or adjacent to any school ground or any school-sponsored activity is prohibited. Any person in violation of the provisions herein shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of one hundred fifty dollars ($150), or up to six (6) months in jail, or both a fine and imprisonment.

(Ord. 2802 § 1 (part), 2011; Ord. 2235 § 1, 1992; Ord. 1269 § 1, 1972).
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If you want local competition and a group of cool people, join CASA...


The shoot every saturday and have competitions regularly. I advocated for this forum, but they were thinking of it before I ever posted..


http://socasa.org
Sweet, thanks for the heads up!
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Thanks! Thats good to know.

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Sweet, thanks for the heads up!
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is that a city or county ordinance?
City. It's in the Municipal Code, section 55.00, I believe.
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is that a city or county ordinance?
Remember that the "City of Los Angeles" covers a lot of the same area as the county. And it is not limited to the acutal city named "Los Angeles".
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If you want local competition and a group of cool people, join CASA...


The shoot every saturday and have competitions regularly. I advocated for this forum, but they were thinking of it before I ever posted..


http://socasa.org
I used to shoot field target with those guys a few years ago.
At that time I was living in a condo and couldn't practice. Now I have a house and large yard, but Mission Viejo prohibits it. There's also the problem of my neighbor's windown looking down at my yard. I could shoot from inside my house into the yard, without my neighbors hearing, but my kids are home all the time and are too young for guns. Then I got back into powder burners.....

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That sounds awesome, but check your local listings before proceeding. For example, I live in the city of Los Angeles, and the L.A. Municipal Code prohibits the discharge of any "air-gun, air-rifle or air-pistol, or any spring-gun, spring-rifle or spring-pistol, or any carbon dioxide or other gas operated gun, rifle or pistol" within the city limits, unless you have the proper permits.
You can find some city codes here:
http://www.municode.com/Library
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I have a question on this.

When I was in J ROTC, we shot .22 in the classroom. We competed, against other J ROTC units in small bore. All shot on school campus, in LA and out.

How did that happen legally?


We shot colour guard with the M1 Garand, and our blanks were bullets that were removed then a crayon inserted into it, to create a blank, and fired on the football field after pledge of allegiance.


Were we doing it illegally?

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How about a monthly air gun match similar to the monthly rimfire match in the rimfire forum?
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I have a question on this.

When I was in J ROTC, we shot .22 in the classroom. We competed, against other J ROTC units in small bore. All shot on school campus, in LA and out.

How did that happen legally?


We shot colour guard with the M1 Garand, and our blanks were bullets that were removed then a crayon inserted into it, to create a blank, and fired on the football field after pledge of allegiance.


Were we doing it illegally?
Those were different times. When I was in high school (late 1970's), nearly every pickup truck in the student parking lot had a gun rack in the back window. Most had either a shotgun or rifle in the rack while parked on campus. Nobody cared. It wasn't illegal.

This was in suburban southern California (Simi Valley). I hear you can't even shoot a BB gun there now. Ridiculous.

There are no laws restricting the discharge of firearms or airguns where I currently live.
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Thousand Oaks municiple code section 5-11
3) Any person while shooting an air gun, air rifle, or air pistol, or any spring gun, spring rifle, or spring pistol, or any carbon dioxide or other gas operated gun, rifle, or pistol in any private place or location constructed or arranged such that it is not possible for the ammunition, projectiles, or other objects expelled by such guns, rifles, or pistols to escape the place or location
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Guess Sacramento isn't in CA anymore.
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Guess Sacramento isn't in CA anymore.



Sacramento City Municipal Code:

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"9.32.070 Discharging air guns in city.

It is unlawful for any person to carry or use any air gun for the purpose of discharging or from which are or may be discharged bullets, shot or missiles of any kind within the city limits, except in licensed shooting galleries. (Prior code § 48.01.008)"

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"9.32.090 Prohibiting sale of air guns to minors.

A. It is unlawful for any person to sell, give or loan to any person under eighteen (18) years of age, any BB gun, air gun, pellet gun, or spring gun, within the city.

B. No person, under the age of eighteen (18) years, shall have in his or her possession or control any BB gun, air gun, pellet gun, or spring gun, within this city, except while in immediate custody of his or her parents as hereinafter provided.

C. The chief of police is authorized to establish training programs for minors, and also to license the establishment of shooting ranges and galleries in proper locations.

D. Any person under the age of eighteen (18) years may, while in custody of and under immediate control of his or her parent or guardian, use a BB gun, air gun, pellet gun, or spring gun, to shoot at an inanimate target on range or in a shooting gallery which has been authorized by the chief of police.

E. Any person desiring to operate and maintain a shooting range for BB guns, air guns, pellet guns, or spring guns, within the city, shall first apply to the chief of police for a permit, on an application form to be furnished by the chief of police. If, upon investigation, it appears the range can be maintained at the location specified in the application, without danger to the public, then and in that event the chief of police may issue a permit. (Prior code § 48.01.010)"



Sacramento County Municipal Code:

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"9.36.060 Firearms, Air Guns, and Other Weapons.

No person other than peace officers in the discharge of their duties shall use, maintain, possess, fire, or discharge any firearm, air gun, spring gun, bow and arrow, slingshot, or any other weapon potentially dangerous to wildlife or human safety, except in areas, at times, and under conditions designated by the Director for such use. A violation of the provisions of this section is a misdemeanor. (SCC 576 § 15, 1983.)"
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Down in Garden Grove is a no go with airguns, but apparently airsoft is good to go, even in the streets.

I found out when I called in to complain about my neighbor, stinkin kids kept hitting my window. I was told they could even airsoft in the park, but when I asked about shooting my BB gun in the backyard, told me straight up no. Never bothered looking it up though
You called the cops on kids playing with guns in the street?
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Damn, had not heard about that. So I went ahead and did a search for Los Angeles County as well as my city.


The Los Angeles County Code mentions the following about the airguns (from Municode.com):

For me, city code says it good to go as long as its on private property and all minors are supervised by an adult.

I'm sorry to say that it seems you've only read the sections of muni code that you want to and disregarded the others that apply in your case.

First of all, as you mentioned, air guns, BB guns, etc are considered firearms. Therefore you need to answer the question...can I discharge a firearm in my backyard. In LA and LA County the answer is most likely NO.

There are some exemptions but I doubt it applies to most people in LA. Check muni code 13.66.040 Also a quick search of CG will reveal many other threads that have discussed this and answered the question with a resounding no (some have even found out the hard way and I don't want you to fall into that trap)
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I'm sorry to say that it seems you've only read the sections of muni code that you want to and disregarded the others that apply in your case.
I'm sorry that you're sorry.


I simply posted what I found during a quick search and provided a link for a reason: do your own research and update the rest of us if needed.


Next time, don't assume and you wont be sorry. No shame in giving the benefit of doubt.



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First of all, as you mentioned, air guns, BB guns, etc are considered firearms. Therefore you need to answer the question...can I discharge a firearm in my backyard. In LA and LA County the answer is most likely NO.

There are some exemptions but I doubt it applies to most people in LA. Check muni code 13.66.040 Also a quick search of CG will reveal many other threads that have discussed this and answered the question with a resounding no (some have even found out the hard way and I don't want you to fall into that trap)
Here is the code being referred to in the above quote:

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"13.66.040 Discharging firearms—Restrictions generally.

A person shall not shoot, fire or discharge, and a person, firm or corporation shall not cause or permit to be shot, fired or discharged, any rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm in the general direction of any house, camp or place of human habitation, or in the general direction of any public highway, road, street, way, park or premises, unless the place from which such rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm is shot, fired or discharged is at least one-half mile distant from such house, camp or place of human habitation, or is at least one-half mile distant from that portion of such public highway, road, street, way, park or premises toward which such rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm is shot, fired or discharged. The exception in Section 13.66.010 to destroying or killing any predatory or dangerous animal does not apply to this section.

(Ord. 7381 § 1 (part), 1958: Ord. 1769 Art. 3 § 304, 1929.)"
I urge the reader to read this code, along with those posted for Los Angeles County in the first post, and do further research.

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Thanks. Guess my Google-Fu wasn't up to snuff.

Has anybody figured out if Air-Soft is classified as an airgun or separate in regards to the law?
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10.26 Firearms - Discharge
SECTIONS:
10.26.010 Discharge of firearms--Prohibited.
10.26.020 Exceptions.


10.26.010 DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS -- PROHIBITED. No person shall discharge or fire any firearm within the city except as otherwise provided herein. For purposes of this chapter, "firearm" is defined as a gun, pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, BB gun, air gun, pellet gun, bow and arrow, crossbow, blow gun, slingshot or any other weapon of a similar nature designed to discharge a projectile propelled by the expension of a gas or a spring or any other device designed to throw or sling or otherwise project any solid object. (Ord. 1985-19 § 1, 1985; Ord. 1975-13 § 1 (part), 1975).

10.26.020 EXCEPTIONS. The provisions of Section 10.26.010 shall not apply to the following:
(a) To police officers, sheriffs, constables, marshals or other police officers, or any person summoned by any such officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace, or persons who are members of the armed services of the United States, or the National Guard, while such persons are acting in the lawful discharge of their duties;
(b) To persons using firearms in the lawful defense of self, third persons, or the user's property.
(c) To persons discharging or firing such firearms or causing them to be discharged or fired at a firing, shooting or target range authorized, established or maintained by a governmental entity with the consent of the operator and under supervision of a person qualified to be in charge of such range. (Ord. 1975-13 § 1 (part), 1975).
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First of all, as you mentioned, air guns, BB guns, etc are considered firearms. Therefore you need to answer the question...can I discharge a firearm in my backyard. In LA and LA County the answer is most likely NO.
If you're referring to 16.33.010.B, please note that it says "For the purposes of this chapter...", which is in the chapter about making threats with replica firearms. The inclusion of air rifles as firearms only applies in the context of making threats with it. Shooting targets or raccoons doesn't meet the requirements.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see anywhere else in the code that defines an air rifle as a firearm. So my understanding is that, in LA County at least, we're good to go.
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I have a question on this.

When I was in J ROTC, we shot .22 in the classroom. We competed, against other J ROTC units in small bore. All shot on school campus, in LA and out.

How did that happen legally?


We shot colour guard with the M1 Garand, and our blanks were bullets that were removed then a crayon inserted into it, to create a blank, and fired on the football field after pledge of allegiance.


Were we doing it illegally?
I think your really dating your self here
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Aint it great! Banning open carry sling shots. You must store your sling shot in a lock box with the rocks stored in a separate container. What a bunch of BS. The idiot politicians and voters have ruined this state. Glad I have a place in Az. The only problem is that the progressive cockroaches move there to.
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A bunch of us (relative) youngsters meet up at Tac City Airsoft north to work out every thursday.
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Okay from what I read and heard it is illegal to shoot any type of rifle in your own backyard? Where do I legally shoot my air rifle? Shooting range? I don't think so. I have real guns for that. If anyone knows especially in San Diego city area please let me know.
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I did a very quick search on the City of San Diego municipal code. Please click here for the results.

I will try to add more info later. You are more than welcome to post what you find.
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We shot colour guard with the M1 Garand, and our blanks were bullets that were removed then a crayon inserted into it, to create a blank, and fired on the football field after pledge of allegiance.
Should have been a 3 round volley: 1 Red; 1 White & 1 Blue.
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I looked at the SD Sheriffs shooting map and I live in the GRAY area. It states that discharging airguns is prohibited.
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I looked at the SD Sheriffs shooting map and I live in the GRAY area. It states that discharging airguns is prohibited.
Link to Map: Shooting Map
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I know this is old, but I stumbled upon this looking for something else and would like to correct some bad info.


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Sacramento County Municipal Code:
"9.36.060 Firearms, Air Guns, and Other Weapons.

No person other than peace officers in the discharge of their duties shall use, maintain, possess, fire, or discharge any firearm, air gun, spring gun, bow and arrow, slingshot, or any other weapon potentially dangerous to wildlife or human safety, except in areas, at times, and under conditions designated by the Director for such use. A violation of the provisions of this section is a misdemeanor. (SCC 576 § 15, 1983.)"
Sac Co code 9.36.060 is under Chapter 9.36 PARK REGULATIONS

9.36.060 is not County wide, it only applies in parks.


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Thanks. Guess my Google-Fu wasn't up to snuff.

Has anybody figured out if Air-Soft is classified as an airgun or separate in regards to the law?
Sacramento does have county code 9.40.060 Restricted Shooting District which includes air guns.

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the definition of a firearm is when a projectile is propelled via gunpowder... air rifles are not firearms.
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Whew, glad you cleared that up. Unfortunately there are several municipalities that disagree.

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the definition of a firearm is when a projectile is propelled via gunpowder... air rifles are not firearms.
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My city bars discharging an air gun even inside your own home, including air soft.
It counts as "discharging a firearm"
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I really do not give a damn about the laws when it pertains to slingshots, bows, air guns, and airsoft and shooting them within your home or your back yard.

I have decent screening so that I can safely walk around at least half of my back yard with my PCP and shoot at cats, birds or squirrels. With that said, I generally just shoot paper and I have killed all of the squirrels so the only thing left is a feral cat or two and pigeons, sparrows, starlings and crows. Well, blue jays, mocks and wood peckers along with others make up the mix, but I enjoy those good birds.

I am sorry, my point is, if you have or MAKE a good backstop for your pellets you can typically have fun shooting safely. I sighted in my PCP at 37 yards and I believe it is at the peak of its accuracy with the combination of pellets at that distance. I mean, I put three shots through the same hole practically so I was a happy camper with it.

As far as your back stop goes, you can spend a fortune making one or you can make a simple and effective one that costs about $20 or less. I made one and I have used it to catch my .44 mag, 9mm, .45 and .22lr in my garage and on the outdoor ranges when I want to reuse the lead.

Goto Home Depot or Lowes and buy a large like, 15 gallow or around that size TOTE or rubbermaid bin, like this:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-20-ga...0108/202523597

Then get a bag or two of rubber mulch like this:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Vigoro-0-...N8CB/203714943

Fill up the bin with it and put a target on the END of the bin. Now for pellet rifles/airguns you can prolly put it on the side, but I would test it out. You can also go with a smaller container if you want but I hope you get the basic principal here. And yes, these can and will stop many firearms bullets as well. I have MANY holes on the end of mine but rarely any out the back unless they were at odd angles or what not. These are also rather light and easy to carry around.

It is interesting how the bullets are stopped and almost preserved by shaking and digging to the bottom.

With all of that said, to do or not to do things in your own back yard is on you to know and understand. But if you are going to do things like this, please remember to at least be safe about it. And while you are at it, if you are looking for a QUIET gun to shoot in the backyard, then consider getting a Benjamin Marauder rifle. get it in .22 or .177, but .22 if you intend to hunt pests. .25 is a dead giveaway. .22 also maybe but .22 is more common than .25. I got mine from talontunes and I got the TT-Marauder in .22. It is very quiet, but at 46 inches
and heavy as a mofo it is not very easy to conceal or hide when taking a shot.

Enjoy your shooting and when you hear the helos, go inside...

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I have decent screening so that I can safely walk around at least half of my back yard with my PCP and shoot at cats, birds or squirrels. With that said, I generally just shoot paper and I have killed all of the squirrels so the only thing left is a feral cat or two and pigeons, sparrows, starlings and crows. Well, blue jays, mocks and wood peckers along with others make up the mix, but I enjoy those good birds.
And you kill cats, birds, and squirrels because you're a farmer who's crops are in danger, just for sport, or for kicks?
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And you kill cats, birds, and squirrels because you're a farmer who's crops are in danger, just for sport, or for kicks?
No because they are feral or on the varmint list...

If you want to go the AG way you bet. The problem with squirrels is that folks they they are so cute and scrunch of their little squirrel nose and make cute little chattering noises and those people get mad when they see them getting shot at.

But 8 months later when the neighborhood is plagued by families of 2-4 in each yard in each large oak tree or worse, in your attic because you did not realize that the last people to modify things left the pipes up there and because you did not check every opening and vent now, one of them has and found a way to get in, but you are not aware until you hear all the commotion in there one night and you come home to find a pool of piss on the floor that seeped out through the (now partly dimmed) recessed light in the hallway. Oh yeah, the winter or cooler weather made them want to snuggle up and build their new home around that light because of the warmth...

Then you go outside and find that all of your avocados are dropping or not doing to well because SOMEONE decided to taste each one by taking a large bite out of them until they found one that was ripe. And since none were ripe...

As for the other birds, they are on the hit list but each do damage in their own ways. Starlings were aggressive and imported from England or somewhere NOT here. Sparrows are just pests, Crows and pigeons are just the same, they are on lists somewhere. But the blu-jays, woodpeckers, and mocking birds have personalities and are pretty friendly/ curious so even if I did get that destructive streak one day, I still like them enough to not shoot at them even if they were on a list. The crows will fight with owls and other predatory birds but owls are worth way more than crows. I like the hawks and falcons too. The only time I have shot a falcon was with the camera.

My days of shooting animals for sport or kicks in the backyard are well over. It is for a purpose or it is not at all. Oh, Wait, I take that back. Sometimes at night the pack rats will run back and forth on the telephone lines that run between my back yard and my neighbors, like over the fence line. They make for some skilled shooting though. They were why I spent like $150+ on a decent scope for my pcp. IT is almost like a shooting gallery with them running back and forth. It sucks being safe though, BUT I have made a game of following them on the lines, then following them in the tree and watching where they go and as soon as I see them stop for xx seconds, they get whacked. Rats got into the garage once and crawled into the house attic. GOD the digging noise was INSANE at night trying to sleep. I am glad they ate the poison, but then we had to deal with that foul odor for 3 weeks...

At least I figured out how they got in there and plugged up the hole with steel wool/copper wool and that spray foam that expands.

I admit that it is tempting to shoot things when you get a brand new pcp or what not and want to see how cool it is to reach out and touch something, but as long as you are safe and keep it on the down low, then nobody should ***** about it and certainly nobody should see you waving them around everywhere. When I was a lot younger though, I shot everything, but my FAVORITE was taking that crosman 760 pumpmaster and pumping it 15-20 times and then dropping a pigeon from atop the liquid amber tree that was prolly close to 40'+ high. Then running out and snatching them off the grass as they tried to get away from you and going back to throw it to your cat. Now those were the days...

As for others. Oppossums get high mention in my book. They are bottom feeders, scavengers, but they are rather shy/timid and really can;t harm you unless you stick your finger in their mouth, but even then will they bite down? They have given me so many shots up close that it is funny I do not have one as a pet. Raccoons on the other hand, well, they can go to hell. They will dig up turf and our lawn and destroy our vegetable garden looking for things. The problem with shooting a raccoon is that if you do not get a kill shot they will scream bloody murder and it will bring people out of their houses to see what the **** is going on. (that is why I upgraded to a PCP that has a 10 shot rotary magazine!)

Coons are not for noobs to shoot at. And if you only see one and take a shot, you best have someone watching your back because hell will have no fury like a coon's scorn and the others that are filming the scene will drop their cameras and come out from hiding to support their friend in time of need. THAT is why you need someone to watch your back (with a knife at least, a good 10" or bigger blade) and that is why you need a gun with a high capacity magazine. Semi auto even better, but at least a good .22 pellet rifle that hits about 1000 fps and is using about 18gr pellets. I forgot if mine were 18, 14 or 24gr, but you want some weight to what you shoot at a coon. And if they swipe you, you best get to the hospital right afterwards. They play for keeps.

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Best thing to do if your not sure about this is to contact your local Sheriffs Dept. and ask. Another would be to find BLM land that allows target shooting.
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Sac Co code 9.36.060 is under Chapter 9.36 PARK REGULATIONS

9.36.060 is not County wide, it only applies in parks.




Sacramento does have county code 9.40.060 Restricted Shooting District which includes air guns.
Thank you for this correction.
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