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Old 04-30-2015, 10:11 AM
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Forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question but what will you do with the dead rabbits? Do you cook them, make holster, or something? I have never gone hunting.
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They make great lawn ornaments......
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I usually take them and clean,dispose leftovers in trash. The Stock is built by Mad Dog and is very lightweight.
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I've seen your other pictures. Looks like where I spent many years of my life....the Victor Valley area.
Those Jacks look pretty thin. The drought is really taking its toll.
I presume you know how to tell if they are healthy enough to eat. A pressure cooker is your friend.
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Since you have to harvest them a pressure cooker is one way to fix. I flour and fry and then add onions and water and simmer till tender. Serve over brown rice or make gravy.
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I've seen your other pictures. Looks like where I spent many years of my life....the Victor Valley area.
Those Jacks look pretty thin. The drought is really taking its toll.
I presume you know how to tell if they are healthy enough to eat. A pressure cooker is your friend.
How do you tell if they are healthy enough to eat I always wondered? My dads buddy loved squirrel but I honestly never saw one I wanted to eat or looked like it was healthy enough to be safe to eat.
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How do you tell if they are healthy enough to eat I always wondered? My dads buddy loved squirrel but I honestly never saw one I wanted to eat or looked like it was healthy enough to be safe to eat.
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By law, they have to eat them. It's illegal to kill jackrabbits for sport.
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By law you have to eat them? Your obviously joking right...
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By law, they have to eat them. It's illegal to kill jackrabbits for sport.
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Jack rabbits are considered game and subject to wanton waste laws.
They can be killed and left if you are protecting your crops or property from any damage they are causing.

CA F&G code section 4304:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.html/fgc_..._contents.html
3950. (a) Game mammals are: deer (genus Odocoileus), elk (genus
Cervus), prong-horned antelope (genus Antilocapra), wild pigs,
including feral pigs and European wild boars (genus Sus), black and
brown or cinnamon bears (genus Euarctos), mountain lions (genus
Felis), jackrabbits and varying hares (genus Lepus), cottontails,
brush rabbits, pigmy rabbits (genus Sylvilagus), and tree squirrels
(genus Sciurus and Tamiasciurus).

4304. No person shall at any time capture or destroy any deer and
detach or remove from the carcass only the head, hide, antlers, or
horns; nor shall any person at any time leave through carelessness or
neglect any game mammal or game bird which is in his possession, or
any portion of the flesh thereof usually eaten by humans, to go
needlessly to waste
. The provisions of this section shall not apply
to game mammals taken under the authority of Sections 4152 and 4183
of this code.

4152. (a) Except as provided in Section 4005, nongame mammals and
black-tailed jackrabbits, muskrats, subspecies of red fox that are
not the native Sierra Nevada red fox (Vulpes vulpes necator), and red
fox squirrels that are found to be injuring growing crops or other
property may be taken at any time or in any manner in accordance with
this code and regulations adopted pursuant to this code by the owner
or tenant of the premises or employees and agents in immediate...

I suppose you could make an argument that humans don't normally eat jackrabbits. However, since jackrabbits are hares, and hares are commonly eaten all over the world, that might be a tough argument.
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Jack rabbits are considered game and subject to wanton waste laws.
They can be killed and left if you are protecting your crops or property from any damage they are causing.

CA F&G code section 4304:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.html/fgc_..._contents.html
3950. (a) Game mammals are: deer (genus Odocoileus), elk (genus
Cervus), prong-horned antelope (genus Antilocapra), wild pigs,
including feral pigs and European wild boars (genus Sus), black and
brown or cinnamon bears (genus Euarctos), mountain lions (genus
Felis), jackrabbits and varying hares (genus Lepus), cottontails,
brush rabbits, pigmy rabbits (genus Sylvilagus), and tree squirrels
(genus Sciurus and Tamiasciurus).

4304. No person shall at any time capture or destroy any deer and
detach or remove from the carcass only the head, hide, antlers, or
horns; nor shall any person at any time leave through carelessness or
neglect any game mammal or game bird which is in his possession, or
any portion of the flesh thereof usually eaten by humans, to go
needlessly to waste
. The provisions of this section shall not apply
to game mammals taken under the authority of Sections 4152 and 4183
of this code.

4152. (a) Except as provided in Section 4005, nongame mammals and
black-tailed jackrabbits, muskrats, subspecies of red fox that are
not the native Sierra Nevada red fox (Vulpes vulpes necator), and red
fox squirrels that are found to be injuring growing crops or other
property may be taken at any time or in any manner in accordance with
this code and regulations adopted pursuant to this code by the owner
or tenant of the premises or employees and agents in immediate...

I suppose you could make an argument that humans don't normally eat jackrabbits. However, since jackrabbits are hares, and hares are commonly eaten all over the world, that might be a tough argument.
The key word is usually.

of course you just can't leave em out there to rot (wonton waste). No law saying you HAVE to eat them.

IMO Jackrabbits taste terrible, I can eat me some Cottontail though.

Ive hunted Jackrabbits for sport many times, usually they feed the dogs or give them away to people who will eat em.

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The young ones taste great in my opinion,I have seen some nasty looking parasites in some of the older adults..pretty sick looking. Stew is the best for Jack Rabbits I think
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The key word is usually.

of course you just can't leave em out there to rot (wonton waste). No law saying you HAVE to eat them.
Your implication that they keyword usually negates your having to eat them is debatable at best. I imagine most reasonable people (like the judge that would be listening to you say that no one eats jack rabbit if you were cited for wanton waste and decided to fight the ticket) would say that the backstrap and hindquarters at least are eaten by people. It's hard to say that jack rabbit isn't normally consumed by people when it's listed as a game animal. It's not unlike coots, which most people (around me anyway) don't eat, but still have a limit, a season, and you are expected to make a reasonable attempt to retrieve every one you shoot.

The code is vague enough that while it doesn't say anyone has to eat them, it does say 'carelessnes or neglect ... needlessly go to waste'. Which I think any reasonalbe person would interpret as 'not be consumed'. Whether that means by the hunter, by the hunter's friends, or the hunter's pets is debatable. So, the way you have that phrased above, with the emphasis on 'have', you are wrong. YOU don't have to eat them, but SOMEONE does.

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IMO Jackrabbits taste terrible, I can eat me some Cottontail though.

Ive hunted Jackrabbits for sport many times, usually they feed the dogs or give them away to people who will eat em.
Killing game animals for dog food is also a sticky subject.

While I don't feel it is wrong, I have been told by at least one game warden that if they knew I was shooting animals for dog food they would cite me. This is unfortunate as coots are prevalent in my area, I like hunting ducks (and coots are always around), and my friends feed their pets a raw food diet.
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Your implication that they keyword usually negates your having to eat them is debatable at best. I imagine most reasonable people (like the judge that would be listening to you say that no one eats jack rabbit if you were cited for wanton waste and decided to fight the ticket) would say that the backstrap and hindquarters at least are eaten by people. It's hard to say that jack rabbit isn't normally consumed by people when it's listed as a game animal. It's not unlike coots, which most people (around me anyway) don't eat, but still have a limit, a season, and you are expected to make a reasonable attempt to retrieve every one you shoot.

The code is vague enough that while it doesn't say anyone has to eat them, it does say 'carelessnes or neglect ... needlessly go to waste'. Which I think any reasonalbe person would interpret as 'not be consumed'. Whether that means by the hunter, by the hunter's friends, or the hunter's pets is debatable. So, the way you have that phrased above, with the emphasis on 'have', you are wrong. YOU don't have to eat them, but SOMEONE does.



Killing game animals for dog food is also a sticky subject.

While I don't feel it is wrong, I have been told by at least one game warden that if they knew I was shooting animals for dog food they would cite me. This is unfortunate as coots are prevalent in my area, I like hunting ducks (and coots are always around), and my friends feed their pets a raw food diet.
I am not sure how I would be sitting in front of a judge as I take every jack with me. If a game warden asks me if I am gonna eat them (which I highly doubt will ever happen), I will tell him, the jacks will be used and not wasted.
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While I don't feel it is wrong, I have been told by at least one game warden that if they knew I was shooting animals for dog food they would cite me. This is unfortunate as coots are prevalent in my area, I like hunting ducks (and coots are always around), and my friends feed their pets a raw food diet.
That sounds an awful lot like a game warden trying to make his own laws.

Feeding a carcass to the dogs is not allowing it to go to waste.
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That sounds an awful lot like a game warden trying to make his own laws.

Feeding a carcass to the dogs is not allowing it to go to waste.
That's their interpretation of the law, and given officer discretion they are free to cite me if they feel I am violating the law. At that point it's up to a judge to interpret the letter law. Granted, this was a warden that happened to be on the same internet forum I was on (I think it was duckhuntingchat.com) when I had asked about shooting a limit of coots to feed to the dogs.

Basically, this particular game warden opined that feeding the leftovers to the family pets was not problematic, but shooting a game animal specifically to feed it to a pet would be. Ultimately officers enforce their interpretation (that they have been taught and/or surmised) of the law, and it's up to judges and lawyers (and occasionally jurors) to figure out if they were wrong

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At the end of it all, if it's not specifically illegal, it is legal.
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Is there settled law or court cases that clarify "wanton waste" or "needlessly wasted"?
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Jack rabbits are considered game and subject to wanton waste laws.
They can be killed and left if you are protecting your crops or property from any damage they are causing.

CA F&G code section 4304:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.html/fgc_..._contents.html
3950. (a) Game mammals are: deer (genus Odocoileus), elk (genus
Cervus), prong-horned antelope (genus Antilocapra), wild pigs,
including feral pigs and European wild boars (genus Sus), black and
brown or cinnamon bears (genus Euarctos), mountain lions (genus
Felis), jackrabbits and varying hares (genus Lepus), cottontails,
brush rabbits, pigmy rabbits (genus Sylvilagus), and tree squirrels
(genus Sciurus and Tamiasciurus).
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How exactly did all this talk get started. I posted a pic of 4 jackrabbits I took with an air rifle and now this thread has become a "law"discussion? Nobody left them in the field to "wanton waste",they all got taken home in a cooler and cleaned..
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This turned into a hunting law question because you were hunting jackrabbits with an airgun. Some paople did not seem to know what to do with them and it was clarified on here. You just showed you shot them not what you did with them. If this post keeps some clue less dummy from getting a citation because they did not know the dfw code it was worth it.
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Sorry I didn't mean to hijack, someone stated that you have to eat the rabbits by law which imo is fud.
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You don't have to eat them yourself. Give to mother in law and hope she does not invite you to dinner. (LOL)
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Haha well a video should be done soon..been a work in progress the last year. This year seems much better for the population than last as far as eating them they are not bad,just depends on how they are prepared,as mentioned the crockpot is a hunters friend. If cooking over a fire or grill,pounding the meat into thin strips works well..Went out again today but it was very windy and miserable..Will be filming this next week for two days and hope to have some video up soon..
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