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Old 06-11-2014, 4:12 PM
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should i get a pellet rifle or BB?

what is the best rifle for the money?

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Old 06-11-2014, 4:30 PM
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Pellet to answer the first question
Second, what do you want to do with it? Pellet guns are like tools, many to choose from with different jobs to preform.
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Old 06-13-2014, 1:10 PM
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Pellet gun, as the pellet is soft, and conforms to rifling, so more accurate.


Additionally, more caliber selections for pellets vs BB.

For a cheap gun, Gamo Whisper, for a nice gun, AA TX 200 or Beeman R9,


For Precharged pneumatic, Rapid Air Weapon, Air Arms, FX, Rapid, Theoben, Weirach, etc


Check these places...

http://www.airgunsofarizona.com

http://www.straightshooters.com
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Old 06-13-2014, 1:16 PM
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Don't even consider a bb gun unless you're 10 years old. Personally my best air rifle ever has been my Beeman R10. It's a very fine firearm.

My recommendation for you would be to buy a Sheridan in .20. Variable power but can be plenty to drop squirrels if needed.





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This is my Benjamin .22 cal. I've had it for 43 years. When I took this picture, it had never been serviced and still shot strong. It can still take small animals and bury a pellet 1/4 inch inside of a fence post. I recently had to use it to dispatch one of our sick chickens. After using it on the chicken, I decided to have new seals put in it just because it's over 40 years old. I would recommend either a Benjamin or a Sheridan if its for plinking. Both are now owned by Crosman.

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Don't even consider a bb gun unless you're 10 years old. Personally my best air rifle ever has been my Beeman R10. It's a very fine firearm.

My recommendation for you would be to buy a Sheridan in .20. Variable power but can be plenty to drop squirrels if needed.





Nice gun for the price. Watch out for the Chinese crap they sell at Big 5.
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:21 AM
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do Turners carry any good air rifles?
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:25 AM
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A good resource as well as the others mentioned is:

http://www.pyramydair.com/?utm_sourc...er+ugly+tie%3F
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ok thanks for replies now my next question is where can i shoot it locally in OC area?
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I really really like my benjamin regal nitro piston from big 5. 169 with a scope on sale. Definitely not a child's toy. Strong and very quiet.
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MUKAK:

should i get a pellet rifle or BB?

what is the best rifle for the money?

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Get a pellet gun.

My favorite air rifle is the RWS .177 Panther.

It is a good, all-around gun that costs ~ $225.

Mine came with a 4X scope.

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This is my Benjamin .22 cal. I've had it for 43 years. When I took this picture, it had never been serviced and still shot strong. It can still take small animals and bury a pellet 1/4 inch inside of a fence post. I recently had to use it to dispatch one of our sick chickens. After using it on the chicken, I decided to have new seals put in it just because it's over 40 years old. I would recommend either a Benjamin or a Sheridan if its for plinking. Both are now owned by Crosman.
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What he said.

The Benjamin and Sheridan are excellent pneumatics.

I had one of each; the Benjamin was a .177.
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should i get a pellet rifle or BB?

what is the best rifle for the money?

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Get a pellet gun.

My favorite air rifle is the RWS .177 Panther.

It is a good, all-around gun that costs ~ $225.

Mine came with a 4X scope.
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Old 06-17-2014, 7:14 AM
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Default Pellets are far better projectiles than BB's

Heavier, more aerodynamic, and more accurate than BB's.
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BBs are made of steel and will bounce off of most solid surfaces plus they are usually shot out of a smooth bore, no rifling like the barrel of a pellet gun, pellets are lead so they are softer and are more likely to stop when they hit a solid surface or at least slow as most of their energy is spent in their initial collision with a solid surface, pellets are also way more accurate than any BB could be, that being said, don't buy cheap, invest in a well made weapon just as you would if you were buying a real gun meaning no Chinese crap, airguns from Spain are only slightly better than a Chinese one, look for an airgun made in Germany or the USA, although the Russians as well as the French produce fine airguns, fit and finish are very good as well as ease of operation, Berman R9,R1,R10, are very nice Theoben are also very good, Russian made Edgun, is a first class line of weapons, the Edgun Matador is a bull pup design that as top notch, The Benjamin Marauder is also a first class weapon available in all 3 popular calibers .177,.22,.25 you can also step up to a Benjamin Rogue in .357/9mm which is suitable for larger than small game hunting, airguns have come a long way in the last 2 decades, do your homework and I'm sure you'll find one that meets all your needs and if you don't find one then buy 2, most air gunner's I know own several, as do they own several center fire handguns and rifles.

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Well, did you get a pellet gun?

Diana?

FWB?

Beeman?

AirArms?


RWS?


Benjamin?


Here's the spring air's...

http://www.straightshooters.com/airr...elections.html


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oy goy, BBs are much cheaper than pellets but they are not as accurate. Pellets are more accurate and consistent but they cost more. Also, bbs are made from steel and pellets are lead so use pellets if you plan on shooting steel targets.

The best bang for your buck is probably to get a refurbished RWS Diana 34 for about $125. If that's above your paygrade, then try to Crosman 2100 for around $60.
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should i get a pellet rifle or BB?
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The best air gun for the money, as mentioned in other threads, is probably the Daisy 880 refurb for $19.99 at Midway USA:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/263...ck-blue-barrel

However, be wary of shipping charges that may eat away your savings.

The 880 will shoot both .177 pellets and 4.5mm BB's, though most would advise against shooting BB's because it will cause more wear on the barrel. But for a $20 rifle, you can buy a container of 6,000 Daisy zinc plated BB's for $8.49 to plink:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/137...ugv11376530086

Or, preferably, boxes of 500 Daisy pellets for $2.69:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/137...ProductFinding


If you get the 880, toss the scope and go visit your local Big 5 to buy the Simmons scope for $49.99. Print out the Big 5 coupon online (20% off retail price) and you'll get the scope for $40 + tax, then use the $30 Simmons rebate and you can buy this nice scope for about $13.50 total:

http://www.big5sportinggoods.com/pro...-22-scope.html

(If the image from the scope looks blurry, there's a focus adjustment ring at the end of the scope where your eyes goes that you can turn. It's not labelled.)


If you're willing to spend some money, Air Gun depot have good combos, like this RWS 34:

http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-airgu...fle-combo.html

With current promotion, you can get additional 11% discount and free shipping. The scope is worth $150 and the scope mount about $30, so do your own math and you'll see how much you're getting the RWS 34 for...

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Get a pellet gun, safer & more versatile. Decide what you want it to do. Want to hunt, look a bit harder, read & ask questions. The Benjamin np limited is about 160$ with a budget scope included. Plenty of power & cheap. I just bought a Diana 48 (RWS) in .22 cal. Mine's a sidecharger & I think I'll like it! I get it Tues. I wanted something different, powerful & accurate. Tons of choices for cheaper pellet guns!!! You want quality, Germans make some of the finest. You'll pay for it though! Pyramydair dot com, good resource.
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God get a Benjamin or a Sheridan like they said. Mine I have had forever and never had issues.
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So if a .177 pellet hit a brick wall it would just flatten out? It wouldn't ricochet?

I am also on the search for my first airgun.
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So if a .177 pellet hit a brick wall it would just flatten out? It wouldn't ricochet?

I am also on the search for my first airgun.
Correct, they will flatten out and have to be popped off or scraped off. No ricochets.
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Correct, they will flatten out and have to be popped off or scraped off. No ricochets.
If using pellet traps, some do ricochet so be sure to wear eyepro.
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I own the Benjamin 392 and the Sheridan Blue Streak (late model).

The 392 is hard to pump and loud. By loud, I mean when I'm pumping it at the indoor gun range, the guys in next stall stick their heads over to see WTF I'm doing. They can hear the "clack clack" sound through their ear muffs.

The Benjamin 397 and 392 has wide variety of pellets available, but the Blue Streak is limited in .20 cal pellet selection -- even less than .25. I am not aware of any lead free .20 cal pellets.

Mukak, if you can give us a price range that you're looking at, we can better comment on what's best for the money.
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