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Old 03-19-2013, 7:25 PM
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Default Norco GSSF Match April 6 & 7 - Who is going?

Glock Sport Shooting Foundation (GSSF) match at Raahauge's Shooting Park in 2 1/2 weeks. Who is planning on going?

For those of you with experience at this event, it appears to be a very large event. What can you tell those of us who have never been?
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Myself and the rest of the Calguns.net shooting team will be there. In addition to a Glock(s) I would suggest 150 rounds per division you want to shoot, 4 magazines minimum per division so no one has to wait while you load mags on the firing line, water and snacks are always a good idea although Rahagues usually has something cooking. Study the rule book at GSSF online and ask any questions from there here. Most importantly, HAVE FUN!!

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hey scott would you happen to know if we are obligated to use stock 10 rd mags for a G34?
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You can use hicaps, but only loaded to 10 rounds.
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You can use hicaps, but only loaded to 10 rounds.
Correct. You are limited to a maximum of 11 rounds in the gun except for Major Sub which is 7 rounds. You may use your pre-ban standard cap mags if you want, I do.

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Correct. You are limited to a maximum of 11 rounds in the gun except for Major Sub which is 7 rounds. You may use your pre-ban standard cap mags if you want, I do.

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now can i use standard mags with an aftermarket basepad?
but just load it to 10+1?

and final question sorry... my G34 now has a magwell am i going to need to take it off or is it legal since i am shooting in the competition division

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Old 03-21-2013, 12:02 AM
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OK... Question: If I have a lighter pull trigger spring does that DQ me from competing in stock amateur class?
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GSFF has lots and lots of rules, 76 pages of them @61Mb.

http://www.gssfonline.com/glockrpt/2...OCK_Report.pdf

40.40 Specific Illegal Modifications in the “Stock” Divisions:

• Any non-post and notch sight. This includes “Ghost
Ring” or laser, electronic and optical sights. Please
note that fiber-optic and express sights are permitted.
• Wrap-around “grip sleeves” on magazines.

• Aftermarket component parts to be used in the
Amateur-Civilian, Amateur-Guardian, Amateur or
Master Subcompact, Amateur or Master Heavy
Metal, Amateur or Master Master-Stock, Amateur or
Master Competition, and Amateur or Master Major-
Subcompact divisions.
• Aftermarket barrels.
• Aftermarket recoil spring guide/recoil reducer assemblies.
• Aftermarket extended slide stop levers.
• Firing pins (modified/aftermarket).
• Connectors (modified/aftermarket).
• Metallic magazine well “funnels” or “slugs”.
• Lights or other barrel weights including GLOCKproduced
light/laser units.
• Aftermarket metallic replacement frames.
• Any modification deemed by the Range Master to
create an unfair competitive advantage
• Non-factory “stippling”. (Stippling that is burned or
cut into the polymer frame)

40.50 All firearms are subject to inspection at the
matches for appropriate classification. Random
inspections may occur at GSSF matches. In the
event a GLOCK pistol is deemed illegal for a Stock
division, if possible the competitor’s entry will be
moved to the Amateur and Master Unlimited division.
Refunds will not be given to those who fail inspection.
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Old 03-21-2013, 7:12 AM
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Well, to be fair only about 16 pages are rules an much of that is course layouts and prize payouts. However, you should download this and study it before you show up so you understand course layouts and procedures.

As for the trigger spring, I assume you are talking about the actual trigger spring and not the striker spring or an aftermarket connector? This would be technically illegal as would an aftermarket connector like a LWD or Ghost. Unless you are running in the top 10 I doubt you would be called on it. If you want to be safe put the stock stuff back in it.

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Well, to be fair only about 16 pages are rules

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In Spring of 1992, GSSF had one rule

Stock Glocks Only

"This year GSSF will host a Fun Match with merchandise awards given away every hour. For a small fee, a competitor will receive 6 rounds, a Glock pistol of his choice, and a chance to hit 4 falling plates for time. This will be a "Fun Shoot" as not all prizes and awards will go to the most skilled"

http://www.gssfonline.com/glockrpt/a.../1992vol_1.pdf

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so GSSF replied to me. I was informed that even though I am not a Master shooter, I would have to compete in Master Unlimited and be lumped in with the masters.

Good thing this magwell is so easy to take off, I'm sticking with Am. Comp.
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In Spring of 1992, GSSF had one rule

Stock Glocks Only

"This year GSSF will host a Fun Match with merchandise awards given away every hour. For a small fee, a competitor will receive 6 rounds, a Glock pistol of his choice, and a chance to hit 4 falling plates for time. This will be a "Fun Shoot" as not all prizes and awards will go to the most skilled"

http://www.gssfonline.com/glockrpt/a.../1992vol_1.pdf
Ah, the good ol' days!

FYI, they run Amatuer's and Masters all alike in Unlimited. Not sure why they make a distinction there as everyone competes on the same level there.

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I think you would be moved to Amateur Unlimited

In the event a GLOCK pistol is deemed illegal for a Stock
division, if possible the competitor’s entry will be
moved to the Amateur and Master Unlimited division.
Refunds will not be given to those who fail inspection.
This is straight from GSSF

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You will be able to shoot it in the Master Unlimited. All members amateur and masters can shoot in this division, however you will be competing against the Masters for prizes."
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That's interesting they would drop you in Master Unlimited if you have never even shot a GSSF before.... Sounds like they don't want any mods at all. Actually you don't really need to mod a Glock except for sights as OEM sights suck. The 3.5lb OEM connector is legal as well as a OEM G21 mag release which is extended in a G17 frame.
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That's interesting they would drop you in Master Unlimited if you have never even shot a GSSF before.... Sounds like they don't want any mods at all. Actually you don't really need to mod a Glock except for sights as OEM sights suck. The 3.5lb OEM connector is legal as well as a OEM G21 mag release which is extended in a G17 frame.
i was just being lazy and didnt want to take off the magwell and then have to put it back on since im most likely going to shoot IPSC right after
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Does anybody know what time it will end on Saturday?

I'm considering doing LAX Indoor Saturday morning then head to Norco so I can knock out both on the same day.

This will enable me to shoot Prado IPSC on sunday
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Does anybody know what time it will end on Saturday?

I'm considering doing LAX Indoor Saturday morning then head to Norco so I can knock out both on the same day.

This will enable me to shoot Prado IPSC on sunday
I think they typically run till 4-5 or run out of shooters. I would think if you can get in the first rotation at LAX you should be able to shoot twice and make it out in plenty of time as long as you are not shooting all 7 divisions.

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Sounds like a fun event. Are spectators allowed??
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Yes, especially ones with a Glock and ammo! Bring your gun and shoot. There will be plenty of time to watch and ask questions of the other shooters or RO's. virtually EVERYONE that had gone to just watch one of these has regretted not shooting it.

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"Sounds like"
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Ill be there. Only shooting 2 divisions this time. And this time I got a uplula to load the mags. AmCiv and AmComp for me.
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Can I bring my g21sf and show them how the metal is so crapy its literally falling apart after just 15k rounds? Will they then let me shoot my 1911 instead?



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Unm, no!

Garbage 1911s are not allowed! Sorry.

Sent that G21 back to the factory and they will replace it.
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Can I just go watch?
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So there are 3 stages only correct?

no holsters? 10 round mags only?
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no holsters? 10 round mags only?
Yes, 3 stages. Plates, Glock M and 5 to Glock. You can use any mags, you can only load a max of 11 rounds (7 in Major Sub) in the gun on any stage. If you have preban standard capacity mags you are fine to use these.

You can carry the gun in a holster if you like but it has to be empty of course and the slide locked back. There is no drawing from a holster. I prefer to keep mine snug and out of the elements in case of some sort.

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Just a couple of tips.

Bring at least 4 mags and 150 rounds per division you are shooting. This will eliminate reloading on the line and cover you in the case of a reshoot.

After you register sign in at ALL of the stages and then pick the one you want to shoot first. If everyone is following the system this will work to your advantage.

Do not hesitate to tell the RO you are a newbie. They will be more than happy to help and walk you through the procedures.

Shoot slow. Accuracy is more important than speed in GSSF and penalties are stiff for misses. Don't ask how I know.

Bring water.

Wear a hat. It helps keep the sun out of your eyes and brass out of your face!

There is usually food there but you might want to have a snack handy.

Norco usually runs pretty quick but a folding chair is not a bad idea.

Most importantly, HAVE FUN!!!

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Uncle Mike sells BBQ on a stick (VERY good) and gatorade/water
but I'm not sure if he's there on sundays.
He's always there grilling on the saturday IPSC matches

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I have never been to this event and am going this weekend. I heard there will be vendors there selling stuff, anybody I should look for or take extra $ for?
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I ended up going today. I didn't get there until about noon and finally finished up about 4:15. I only shot in 2 classes, AM CIV and COMP. Good time though. I saw the CGN team was there. Mrs. Bowhunter was there with me, which made for a nice day.
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You should have stepped up and said hi, we don't bite and judging from today we don't shoot very well either! It was a great day shooting with everyone even though I think it was a bit of an off day for Team Calguns. Here are my scores. Didn't do as bad in Civ as I thought.

Comp- 104.24
Civ- 75.01
Unltd- 100.80
Sub- 125.65
HM- 129.37
MajSub- 71.66

Pretty much sucked with the G30 today. Way to many C & D's along with a couple Mikes and a plate up in HM & MajSub.

Can't wait for the next one guys!

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This was my first GSSF and first competitive match of any kind. Tons of fun. I was very happy to meet some cool people and learn a lot.

Hats off to the RO's and other GSSF employees that made it an enjoyable time.
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It was my first outdoor GSSF too, and I agree with you 100%; very fun, well organized (except for registration at first thing in the morning), and GREAT people!

A special thanks to Walt over in the practice bay... he was very helpful and let me shoot his G21 .45.

In the end I shot terrible (I was tired after having shot the previous two days)... but had a blast!
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shot horrible...i guess not sleeping would do that to you :P
the long wait times really got to me too because when i finally got up to shoot i was so antsy

i dont know how but piru went by a lot faster for me
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shot horrible...i guess not sleeping would do that to you :P
the long wait times really got to me too because when i finally got up to shoot i was so antsy

i dont know how but piru went by a lot faster for me
Fewer entries. I am thinking there were only a few less on Sunday than Saturday. The count was 225 at the end of the day Saturday but some of those were pre-entries like myself that had not shot yet.

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Fewer entries. I am thinking there were only a few less on Sunday than Saturday. The count was 225 at the end of the day Saturday but some of those were pre-entries like myself that had not shot yet.

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yeesh
on another note...pretty funny how i was RO'd by people i know in 2 stages
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I screwed the pooch in Civ, but did ok in Comp.
CIV 119.56
Comp 91.84

I had to shoot CIV with a busted front sight on my G17.
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