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Old 01-07-2019, 7:28 AM
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Default Moderators. Know what you have.

When I was a kid here in CA I hunted with a Sheridan pump air rifle. I wore the thing out. I remember one time walking down a street to get to a field to hunt rabbits a Sheriff stopped me and did not realize it was a pellet rifle. He thought it was cool and told me not to load it until I was off the road. When I became a bigger kid a friend of mine that I hunted with showed me some air gun magazines that had the newest innovations of PCP rifles from England. We were hooked.
One of the biggest things that caught our eyes is that they were advertised with what the British called a Moderator that came affixed to the rifle barrel.
We ordered them after making enquiries over there and here about this thing on the end of the barrel we called barrel weights.
Fast forward to the early 2000s and Americans manufactures were incorporating “shrouds” affixed to their products.
Be aware of after market “Barrel Weights”. Here is a article that Tom Gaylord the god father of air rifles wrote.
https://www.pyramydair.com/article/A...August_2006/32
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Old 01-08-2019, 6:13 AM
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Wow, just wow!
What about all the new airguns are coming out with moderators already attached as a stock item?
Almost all high end pellet guns coming out are "moderated", I'd hate to drop 2k on an FX Impact only to find out I'm in violation of the silencer law.
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Old 01-08-2019, 9:01 AM
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Wow, just wow!
What about all the new airguns are coming out with moderators already attached as a stock item?
Almost all high end pellet guns coming out are "moderated", I'd hate to drop 2k on an FX Impact only to find out I'm in violation of the silencer law.
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Manufactures came out with affixed moderators built in that cannot be removed. This put that part of the rifle legal as far as manufacture are concerned with the BATF. State jurisdictions are a different matter. Aftermarket manufactures are just rolling the dice.

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Old 01-08-2019, 9:30 AM
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Wow, just wow!
What about all the new airguns are coming out with moderators already attached as a stock item?
Almost all high end pellet guns coming out are "moderated", I'd hate to drop 2k on an FX Impact only to find out I'm in violation of the silencer law.
Food for thought
Manufactures came out with affixed moderators built in that cannot be removed. This put that part of the rifle legal as far as the BATF is concerned. That made manufactures of air rifles off the hook for shipping in the US. State jurisdictions are a different matter.
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Has anyone ever been prosecuted for possession of a moderator designed for, and used, strictly on an air gun? How about manufacturers, Donnyfl for example - have they come under scrutiny of the feds for these products? Or distributors like Airguns of Arizona - any prosecutions there? The point is, if moderators were in the crosshairs of the BATFE I'm pretty sure we would all know about it by now.
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Has anyone ever been prosecuted for possession of a moderator designed for, and used, strictly on an air gun? How about manufacturers, Donnyfl for example - have they come under scrutiny of the feds for these products? Or distributors like Airguns of Arizona - any prosecutions there? The point is, if moderators were in the crosshairs of the BATFE I'm pretty sure we would all know about it by now.
This. To think otherwise is to fan the flames of an imaginary conflaguration of FUD.
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Old 01-13-2019, 8:22 AM
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Has anyone ever been prosecuted for possession of a moderator designed for, and used, strictly on an air gun?
Yes. All it takes is one DA to make a example. You better have Saul on speed dial. Go ahead and use one. It is only a grey area.
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