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Old 08-27-2016, 8:57 AM
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Why do all Gunbroker dealers require FFL on SKS made in the 1950s? I thought under C&R they could ship directly to you?

If I am wrong, under what circumstance can you buy an SKS without an FFL transfer?
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Old 08-27-2016, 9:05 AM
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you need a COE too

Also many sellers on GB dont want to research laws so they take the lazy route
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Why do all Gunbroker dealers require FFL on SKS made in the 1950s? I thought under C&R they could ship directly to you?

If I am wrong, under what circumstance can you buy an SKS without an FFL transfer?
Federal laws requires a FFL if the firearm is shipped across State lines.
^ If the firearm is a C&R, then a C&R Type 03-FFL can be used to comply with this requirement.

CA laws requires all firearm transfers to go through a CA FFL dealer.
^ If the firearm is a C&R rifle/shotgun, then a CA resident with a valid C&R Type 03-FFL and valid COE is exempt from this requirement.

Bottom line:
*CA resident with no FFL = C&R SKS must be transferred through a CA FFL dealer.
*CA resident with a valid C&R FFL and no COE = C&R SKS must be transferred through a CA FFL dealer.
*CA resident with a valid C&R FFL and valid COE = C&R SKS can be shipped to the address listed on the C&R FFL.
^C&R SKS must be logged into the CA resident's C&R FFL log book and must register the C&R SKS with CA DOJ.
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If I am wrong, under what circumstance can you buy an SKS without an FFL transfer?
All modern firearms including curio & relic guns have to be transferred through or to a FFL holder of some sort...in California

C&R guns can be shipped directly to a holder of a 03 Curio &Relic FFL license out of Ca..

Transfers into CA requires both a 03 C&R license as well as a Ca. issued COE (Certificate Of Eligibility)For long guns..

Handguns shipped into Ca cannot go to a C&R FFL... The must go to a 01 FFL holder (regular gun shop)
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Great info, thank you. I was confused on this because somebody at a gun show was selling a Russian SKS, and said it was cash-and-carry, no FFL needed because it was C&R. Seems he was grossly mistaken.

I probably would have bought it if he wasn't charging $900 for it.
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Great info, thank you. I was confused on this because somebody at a gun show was selling a Russian SKS, and said it was cash-and-carry, no FFL needed because it was C&R. Seems he was grossly mistaken.

I probably would have bought it if he wasn't charging $900 for it.
He was correct under the pre-2014 laws.
C&R long guns were cash-and-carry for face to face transfers prior to Jan 1 2014.

Post 2014, if the buyer has an 03 and COE, it is still cash and carry or can be shipped to your door.
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Great info, thank you. I was confused on this because somebody at a gun show was selling a Russian SKS, and said it was cash-and-carry, no FFL needed because it was C&R. Seems he was grossly mistaken.

I probably would have bought it if he wasn't charging $900 for it.
Oh dera, the Libs are actually correct! There was an example of the "Gunshow loophole".
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Oh dera, the Libs are actually correct! There was an example of the "Gunshow loophole".
I actually thought about that as well! Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

This was prior to 2014, so it sounds like it was legal at the time.
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