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utility bill copies as proof of residency
Guys,
I've stopped paper bills at some point with my gas and electrical companies, and I was wondering if FFL's would accept a print out (read a "copy") of such bills as proof of residency. Anyone tried that ? Thanks! |
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We do. It should be fine.
Don't ask here though, ASK YOUR FFL. It's acceptable and legal, but that doesn't mean your FFL will take it, and that's all that matters.
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None of those are acceptable statements for establishing proof of residency. Neither are cell phone bills.
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I didn't realize that. I have never had to show more than my CDL to buy though, so that may be why...
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Otherwise, for non-handgun purchases all you need to show is CDL/CID.
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As easier one perhaps if they get weird about it is if you have a car, truck, or motorcycle. Then you have a current DMV registration.
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I'm not a citizen, got to provide 3 months worth of stuff
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Doesn't apply to your situation but a letter signed by a parent was enough to be a 2nd proof of residency for me. The car is registered to my father(I drive it tho) and I'm living with my parents at the moment so I don't have any utility bills or lease agreements under my name. The FFL said I have to bring a letter signed by a parent stating how long I've been living at the house and that I pay no utilities and that I would be good to go. All I did was write a statement saying all those things and handed it to my Dad to sign. That was it.
When he said that I actually remarked, "What?! My parents?". And he looked at another guy and said, "Yes...hard to believe, but a signed letter is enough proof in CA". Which is good, no reason why a legal law abiding citizen should be banned from owning a handgun just because his parents provide everything for him >_> |
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If you are a permanent resident, then you will need to show 3 latest consecutive months utility bills as proof of residence if purchasing / transferring any firearm through a CA FFL01.
I am in the same boat as you, and print out the first page of my Edison utility bill every month out of habit habit, just in case I want to make a purchase. My billing is paperless, so I print the bill from online. Never had a FFL say anything about it. I always ask the FFL to photocopy my copies of the utility bills so I don't have to keep remembering to reprint the bills.
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They shouldn't. Bank statements are not to a physical address, and therefore are not allowed as proof of residency.
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The feds care about the 90 days prior, and credit card statements are expressly permitted:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b13 An alien legally in the U.S. may acquire firearms if he has a State of residence. An alien has a State of residence only if he is residing in that State and has resided in a State continuously for at least 90 days prior to the purchase. An alien acquiring firearms from a licensee is required to prove both his identity, by presenting a government-issued photo identification, and his residency with substantiating documentation showing that he has resided in the State continuously for the 90-day period prior to the purchase. Examples of qualifying documentation to prove residency include: utility bills, lease agreements, credit card statements, and pay stubs from the purchaser’s place of employment, if such documents include residential addresses.This is also mentioned on the 4473... I think it's in the help section for 20(c), but I'm probably wrong about the exact number. -- Michael |
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Yeah, and there is that "original documentation", which kind of relates
to my original question... |
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