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I understand both points of view but this is how i feel now. Say I dont go, maybe that regret will fade one day maybe not but if i do go I will not regret, my wife is on board. Yes, things can change but only time will tell. Heck i might not even make it through meps for having eczema and asthma as a kid, whatever the case is now would be the time, past this...another kid comes along, ill be in my 30s, life will be flying by plus the regret for sure.

ATM i have grandma and grandpa at home that can help with the kid, a little brother and other means of family support.
Your kids are only kids one time. And it flies by faster than anyone can tell you. I donít know how loving of a person you are but you seem family oriented. I donít think you really want to miss out on your kids growing up. That experience you can never get back and in my opinion is the most important for not just you but your kid as well. Either way, good luck to you.
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Say I dont go, maybe that regret will fade one day maybe not but if i do go I will not regret, .
I wasn't going to comment again, but I saw this come up in someone else's quote of you, and it caught my eye.

Regrets NEVER fade, really. If you don't go, you will, for the rest of your life, wonder what "could have been"... but NOBODY gets through life without regret at not doing something, or doing something they didn't want to do.

Hell... I was once offered a job at a tiny little (4-employee) upstart company called Earthlink. I'd be lying big time if I said that didn't keep me up at night every now and then.

Part of being a man, a husband, and a FATHER, is realizing that your regrets don't mean **** anymore. You have a higher responsibility than your own feelings.
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I wanted some insight from those who may have taken a similar path.

I'm 25yrs old, married, and maybe a little one soon too but I want to serve my country and enlist in the Marine Corps Reserve. Under way with docs right now, please chime in and let me know what you think, what I should be prepared for, what should the wife prepare for, etc.?

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I served 4 yrs in the Army I wasn't married and I had no kids, but I did notice military life was real tough on marriages a lot of failed marriages because of this lifestyle. A lot of cheating. I don't want to discourage you, but you should know. And recruiters LIE.

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I wanted some insight from those who may have taken a similar path.

I'm 25yrs old, married, and maybe a little one soon too but I want to serve my country and enlist in the Marine Corps Reserve. Under way with docs right now, please chime in and let me know what you think, what I should be prepared for, what should the wife prepare for, etc.?

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What does your wife say? It sounds like you are choosing reserves as a compromise. In today's world, you are very likely to get called to active duty. Will your wife be around when and if you get back? I saw more marriages fail than last.
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What does your wife say? It sounds like you are choosing reserves as a compromise. In today's world, you are very likely to get called to active duty. Will your wife be around when and if you get back? I saw more marriages fail than last.
A little bg - my wife and I have date since high school and recently got married so shes been here all along 8+ years. She knows and understands that Ive always wanted to do this, she did admit itll be hard but she thinks shell be fine and believes i should do this.

Sometimes she trys to talk me out of it but she always comes back to telling me that if its what I truly want to do then she supports me, i understand shell prob go through the motions and so will i being apart that long.
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There is no perfect answer here. I saw one of my kidsí first steps via Skype from Central Asia and when I got home she wouldnít let me hold her and she cried when I picked her up. That hurt. But looking back overall I do not regret my military service. It was a mix of active duty, national guard, and reserves. You have to decide if you are confident that your family can manage while you are gone. Personally I would go active duty from the start instead of being bounced back and forth from a few years of active duty to a few years of reserves.
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Reserves deploy for the same lengths of time. Also, training is away from home in most cases. So reserves may not give you more time at home, if that's the goal. When you're active, you're typically training on the base you're stationed at.

I was burned out after year 4 (5 year contract). The deployment tempo was basically 7 months on, 7 months off when I was in (04-09). I'm sure it's less now, but gone is gone. Whether it's Afghanistan/Iraq or a MEU, you're still away.

You won't know until you do it, it's not something that can be described enough to prepare you. A coworker's son joined a few years ago. This kid wanted to be a Marine since he was like 4. He was gung ho, 100% career, enlisted as Recon etc. He ended up going infantry after dropping out of recon (went scout sniper) and within 2 years had decided to get out (and just did). So no amount of motivation will prepare you for the reality. Whether it's good or bad.

I don't want to dissuade you, as many good things came from being in the Marines. But it is difficult and it may be more difficult for your wife than you. Also, coming home to your kid not knowing who you are is something you need to be OK with.
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If you are joining the reserve, then I would tell them to prepare for poverty. Your monthly drill pay will basically cover your health insurance for your family. Congratulations on the kid. Go active duty for the shortest contact possible, then extend if it works well for your family. If you don't already have an education, trade or career, go for the pogest mos possible and go to school while you're in.
I agree. I have a friend who at 24 went the reserve route in the Marines. He was so ready to get out after 6 years. Marines is a young mans game in the sense that you are doing hikes with 125 plus pounds in your back pack.
Most of his squad is 18-19 years old. Mres are all you eat. It's a rough tough way of life. My friend is 6'2" and a lean 185. As a fellow vet I have a lot of respect for those who make it.
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Something to Ponder

Question: I donít know the USMC standards for becoming a Reserve Officer, but I know the Army Reserves is desperate and selecting OCS candidates with medical waivers and marginal College GPAís, with marginal Fitness Scores.

As a USAR OCS candidate none of your performance matters. You go into the system KNOWING your unit, and your MOS. So who cares if you graduate bottom of your class, just so long as you graduate.

So what Iím saying is it looks like youíre currently a good candidate for USAR OCS selection.

THAT SAIDÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ.

I think itís a good indication of your commitment to service/country if you are willing to consider USAR in the event of not being selected for the USMC.
If you are not willing to accept the USAR in absence of the USMC then you might want to ask yourself honestly: What is your tolerance level of commitment to the USMC?

I understand where youíre at right now. Most of us are on the other side of the mirror wearing the bling. We played the game and jumped through the hoops. Any ego motivation we had has long been sufficiently met. Now we just tolerate it.

I suggest if youíre not willing to consider the USAR if the Marines turn you down you might not be cut out for any of the services in the long haul, effectively just being another Jr. enlisted filling a high turnover billet counting the days until his contract ends.

I know I sound like an Army recruiter, but I enlisted when I was 39 years old.

It was my dream of dreams to be a USAF fighter pilot when I was a little kid. That of course never happened. I wore glasses, and my high school academics were pathetic. I didnít get an OCS scholarship out of high school, and the chip on my shoulder was too big to enlist.

20 years later my desire to serve outweighed my pride. So instead of enlisting at 18, I enlisted at 39 with a MASTERS DEGREE as an E4, with a willingness to eat at lot of crow (A LOT OF CROW).

At 39 I first went to the USN Reserves. They wouldnít return my phone calls.

Then I went to the USAR seeking an OCS contract. When I was going down that path the OCS door was shut in my face.

I threw a hail marry enlisting (hoping for a Direct Commission later). With no guarantees, my plan was to do one contract as enlisted, and then get out (the goal to say I did my part).

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If you fail to get into the USMC, and arenít willing to consider other Branches then your desire to serve your country is outweighed by your desire to call yourself a Marine.

If thatís the case, then what happens to your motivation when you find the commitment to being a Marine sucks once you reached your goal of legitimately seeing yourself in the mirror in a set of Blues?
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They're are plenty of good fathers, not saying I don't want to be one but with I can be that good father and then marine as well? Why not give it a shot? I know it's my timing that makes it difficult but I don't know if I want to live my life with that regret.
As a father who raised 3 kids, I have some sound advice for you. As a man you have a moral and ethical responsibility to raise your kids and be here for them on a daily basis. It's not about what you want and the dreams you feel you need to fulfill, it's about taking responsibility and knowing what your priorities are. Kids grow up fast and they need both mom and dad so they can grow up to be secure, independent and successful adults. The regrets you will have will be not being home to watch your kids grow and experience their development. This should have been your focus when you decided to become a husband and father. You have a college degree and should concentrate on finding a career that will help support your family and
secure their future. Having regrets about not doing certain things in your life is a fact of life as we get older, we have all experienced that. Joining the military is something you should have done when you were younger and single,
The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can evaluate your career options and step up to the plate and begin the process of becoming a devoted, responsible and involved husband and father ..... just my two cents and words of wisdom

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If your wife is on board then go. Don't worry about the little ones or your wife. They'll be with you soon enough. Take that step forward and move on with this part of your life. If you do join stay out of trouble.
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Question: I donít know the USMC standards for becoming a Reserve Officer, but I know the Army Reserves is desperate and selecting OCS candidates with medical waivers and marginal College GPAís, with marginal Fitness Scores.

As a USAR OCS candidate none of your performance matters. You go into the system KNOWING your unit, and your MOS. So who cares if you graduate bottom of your class, just so long as you graduate.

So what Iím saying is it looks like youíre currently a good candidate for USAR OCS selection.

THAT SAIDÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ.

I think itís a good indication of your commitment to service/country if you are willing to consider USAR in the event of not being selected for the USMC.
If you are not willing to accept the USAR in absence of the USMC then you might want to ask yourself honestly: What is your tolerance level of commitment to the USMC?

I understand where youíre at right now. Most of us are on the other side of the mirror wearing the bling. We played the game and jumped through the hoops. Any ego motivation we had has long been sufficiently met. Now we just tolerate it.

I suggest if youíre not willing to consider the USAR if the Marines turn you down you might not be cut out for any of the services in the long haul, effectively just being another Jr. enlisted filling a high turnover billet counting the days until his contract ends.

I know I sound like an Army recruiter, but I enlisted when I was 39 years old.

It was my dream of dreams to be a USAF fighter pilot when I was a little kid. That of course never happened. I wore glasses, and my high school academics were pathetic. I didnít get an OCS scholarship out of high school, and the chip on my shoulder was too big to enlist.

20 years later my desire to serve outweighed my pride. So instead of enlisting at 18, I enlisted at 39 with a MASTERS DEGREE as an E4, with a willingness to eat at lot of crow (A LOT OF CROW).

At 39 I first went to the USN Reserves. They wouldnít return my phone calls.

Then I went to the USAR seeking an OCS contract. When I was going down that path the OCS door was shut in my face.

I threw a hail marry enlisting (hoping for a Direct Commission later). With no guarantees, my plan was to do one contract as enlisted, and then get out (the goal to say I did my part).

*****

If you fail to get into the USMC, and arenít willing to consider other Branches then your desire to serve your country is outweighed by your desire to call yourself a Marine.

If thatís the case, then what happens to your motivation when you find the commitment to being a Marine sucks once you reached your goal of legitimately seeing yourself in the mirror in a set of Blues?
To be completely honest, that may be the case for me. As I stated before I was going to delay college for an enlistment with the USMC. My goal now with going enlisted is to give me another shot at the MCOCS and to become an officer in the corps which has been a life long dream.

I'd expect it to suck to some degree and its been almost ingrained in me to embrace that suck whatever it is, but that has also been outweighed by my desire to wear the blues.

And I have thought about the USAR and seeking a commission there. For a while battled between that or enlistment with the USMC but somehow in my mind, enlistment with the USMC then another shot at a commission there edged out over a direct commission with the USAR.
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I was 22 when I started my military journey. No children or wife. I had a wonderful 5 1/2 years. Passed on an enlistment bonus to plan a wedding with my high school sweetheart (It didn't work out never married her). Was getting ready to reenlist but bagged a great job. I do regret not reenlisting sometimes but I never let it get me down. I now have a wonderful wife and 3 little girls. It would be very difficult to be deployed again and not come home everyday to hear about their day. You are 25 married.

Talk it out with your wife and decide together. This is a choice you have to make together. Good luck.
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I was 22 when I started my military journey. No children or wife. I had a wonderful 5 1/2 years. Passed on an enlistment bonus to plan a wedding with my high school sweetheart (It didn't work out never married her). Was getting ready to reenlist but bagged a great job. I do regret not reenlisting sometimes but I never let it get me down. I now have a wonderful wife and 3 little girls. It would be very difficult to be deployed again and not come home everyday to hear about their day. You are 25 married.

Talk it out with your wife and decide together. This is a choice you have to make together. Good luck.
My wife believes I will come out a better man for it and is fully on board, its just the fact that we will be apart for so long that may be difficult for her.
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UPDATE: Good news, I just heard back from the Sgt. that I'm cleared for MEPS! Got a call from previous GySgt saying that he was able to work something out and this deal is only available before the new year so I'm scheduled for screening next week. See how that goes...
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UPDATE: Good news, I just heard back from the Sgt. that I'm cleared for MEPS! Got a call from previous GySgt saying that he was able to work something out and this deal is only available before the new year so I'm scheduled for screening next week. See how that goes...
Something that hasn't been brought up yet, and you only have until Dec.31 to do it.

1) The military is going away from the old pension retirement plan.

2) As of 1-JAN-2018 all new enlistments will be under the NEW 401K mixed plan (shrinking the pension portion greatly).

3) As a reservist your time in service starts the day you sign the contract.
3a) As active duty, your time in service starts the day you ship to Boot/Basic

4) If you sign as a reservist before 31-DEC you can come in under the OLD retirement plan if you so choose.
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A little bg - my wife and I have date since high school and recently got married so shes been here all along 8+ years. She knows and understands that Ive always wanted to do this, she did admit itll be hard but she thinks shell be fine and believes i should do this.

Sometimes she trys to talk me out of it but she always comes back to telling me that if its what I truly want to do then she supports me, i understand shell prob go through the motions and so will i being apart that long.
Biggest question is which one of your buddies gonna be bangin your wife... unless she's fat/ugly. But maybe playing soldier is worth it? Life is short, you have a degree, figure out a career and how you can better the lives of your wife and kid(s). This country does not care about its servicemen and if you get hurt you will not only have f'd your life, but your family.
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Biggest question is which one of your buddies gonna be bangin your wife... unless she's fat/ugly. But maybe playing soldier is worth it? Life is short, you have a degree, figure out a career and how you can better the lives of your wife and kid(s). This country does not care about its servicemen and if you get hurt you will not only have f'd your life, but your family.
I take it you did not serve your country? Beneath you to play soldier? Afraid you might get hurt?
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I take it you did not serve your country? Beneath you to play soldier? Afraid you might get hurt?
I considered it, but opted for other options at several points in time (I would have been an officer if I had signed on, not that that means anything). I've had the honor of serving many who have served (and continue to do so on a regular basis) and as such have seen how they are treated like last weeks trash. I'm glad in retrospect that I didn't sign up. This country no longer deserves the sacrifice it asks of its servicemen.
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I considered it, but opted for other options at several points in time (I would have been an officer if I had signed on, not that that means anything).
Would you have been? Did you have a contract for OCS put in front of you, and you walked away? That still doesn't mean you'd graduate OCS (to get to wear the bar), and BOLC (to be awarded a Branch concentration).

When you say things like that you paint a bullseye on you for those who have.

I guess I would be a Heart Surgeon if I went to medical school. I just had better things to do.
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It's a tough thing to think through and who knows what your life will look like 10 years from now and how you'll look back on it. You might regret never joining the Marines or you might regret not being in your child's life during those crucial years.
And how will these two choices ultimately shape and make your child into the person they grow up to be. Glad I'm not the one having to decide...lol
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I have a buddy at work who was a reserve in the Army and got deployed more than active duty guys. He told me he should have just went active duty. I am totally in agreement here about your family. Your #1 priority is your child and wife! I know how you are feeling about serving your country. I am 38 and to this day regret having not enlisted. However I work as a 911 dispatcher so I am serving my country just in a different way.
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I considered it, but opted for other options at several points in time (I would have been an officer if I had signed on, not that that means anything).
This is exactly who I don't want to be, a "would've, should've, could've" guy. We all could've been something else but were not, we are who we are because of the choices that we made. Luckily I even have this choice now.

Appreciate everyone's input whether they've served or not, i'm going into MEPS on Thursday so we'll see how that goes.

At this point im just looking for ways to take care of my family financially while I'm in boot. The Sgt. says my wife is not able to access my pay...? But I've heard differently...
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I have a buddy at work who was a reserve in the Army and got deployed more than active duty guys. He told me he should have just went active duty. I am totally in agreement here about your family. Your #1 priority is your child and wife! I know how you are feeling about serving your country. I am 38 and to this day regret having not enlisted. However I work as a 911 dispatcher so I am serving my country just in a different way.
Im sure thats dependent on your MOS? I limited as a reservist here....looking into ammo tech though...
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Im sure thats dependent on your MOS? I limited as a reservist here....looking into ammo tech though...
The likelihood of deployment(s) vary all over the map. The reservists who sign up, enjoy the benefits and wearing the uniform, but all of the sudden are nowhere to be found when deployments roll around are the most loathsome type of people in the world.

I was not thrilled when I went from ďalternateĒ to ďprimaryĒ for a deployment at the last minute after another guy suddenly had a mysterious back injury. But there is no way I would have tried to slither out of going once my name was called. We did not end up in a hostile fire area, and the experience overall was great, but of course we didnít know anything about our destination until the last minute.
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Something that hasn't been brought up yet, and you only have until Dec.31 to do it.

1) The military is going away from the old pension retirement plan.

2) As of 1-JAN-2018 all new enlistments will be under the NEW 401K mixed plan (shrinking the pension portion greatly).

3) As a reservist your time in service starts the day you sign the contract.
3a) As active duty, your time in service starts the day you ship to Boot/Basic

4) If you sign as a reservist before 31-DEC you can come in under the OLD retirement plan if you so choose.
Wow. They have been talking about that since I enlisted in the mid 90s.is there a place where I can read the details of the plan? Is it a 401k where you put your own money and they match some percentage?
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I had to sit through that blended retirement system training. Unless you know that you will get out before 20 years the defined benefit plan is more secure. I wasn’t eligible to switch and would not have even if I was eligible.
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The Sgt. says my wife is not able to access my pay...? But I've heard differently...


Have your pay DD into an account she has access too. That problem is solved. Good luck.
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The Sgt says the marines will create their own bank account for me because it's easier?

Anyways....they screwed up on my asvab so meps is delayed to next week, today i will be taling the asvab and now they're asking me to take another day off work to complete meps - I guess the deal my GySgt struck has been prolonged?
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So took the ASVAB and my recruiter says I can have any job I want basically, of course it has to be available here (reserve).

Also..............the other morning my wife had really really bad cramps/abdominal pain and she couldn't walk, i had to carry her out and took her to the hospital 1 in the morning, the Drs said she has gallstone. It starts to act up now because her abdomen is making room for the baby and may have to undergo surgery after baby is here.

I guess in that moment I realized how much she may need me here, so I have a lot of thinking to do. I also have MEPs scheduled for this Thursday coming.
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My grandfather was a ww2 vet and he told me to NEVER volunteer for the military. Idk if that means anything to you or not, but I took the advice from the person I knew who served. I'd say, go be there for your kids and don't risk them growing up without a dad.
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At your age there are a few factors.

Your bootcamp will be harder than those 18 year old grunts. Also, you will get hazed and treated different by being the "Old guy". Yes, at 25 your are old. At 25 you will see corporals and sergeants at this rank and age already. If you are squared away, you might get a more leadership role, or you will just get hazed by the DS and boots. Your wife can expect you GONE while in boot camp too. Make sure she knows she will have zero support from you. Even if your cadre know you have a pregnant wife, there not going to let you use a phone - to phone home. You are locked up basically until your done.

I would go reserve!

If you go active - what could your wife expect? Long days, hurry up and wait, no entitlement as enlisted, basic housing, and deployments - empty sheets at night. Dont let Jodie get your girl.

I would go reserve because of your age and your current family situation.

Should you join either way? YES!!! I encourage everyone I meet to join, unless they already have a solid plan.
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The Sgt says the marines will create their own bank account for me because it's easier?

Anyways....they screwed up on my asvab so meps is delayed to next week, today i will be taling the asvab and now they're asking me to take another day off work to complete meps - I guess the deal my GySgt struck has been prolonged?
they will do everything for you, even if you dont want it. I showed up with specially designed running shoes, new $100 shoes for my feet from roadrunner. They threw them in my personal bag and said "You'll get those after" and made me buy a pair from the commissary You also, dont have a haircut choice either.
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Wow. They have been talking about that since I enlisted in the mid 90s.is there a place where I can read the details of the plan? Is it a 401k where you put your own money and they match some percentage?
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You have a BS in management, work in real estate in the middle of a GREAT market, have a new wife who occasionally tries to talk you out of joining, and have a new baby on the way. And somehow leaving ALL OF THAT will cause you less regret than missing out on doing something you really already should have done?
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You have a BS in management, work in real estate in the middle of a GREAT market, have a new wife who occasionally tries to talk you out of joining, and have a new baby on the way. And somehow leaving ALL OF THAT will cause you less regret than missing out on doing something you really already should have done?
The market is definitely hot right now. My family is all real estate and they're doing very well.

But yes, leaving all this for 8 or so months to do something I felt I should have done a long time ago is what I am contemplating and I've definitely thought about that.

From a logical/rational standpoint it doesn't make sense but I can't explain this lingering desire I've had for so long now nor do I know how to address it in another other way than to go.

Coming back, even if I went active duty Id be making less than I do now with less time to spend with family/loved ones and it'll definitely be tough.
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The market is definitely hot right now. My family is all real estate and they're doing very well.

But yes, leaving all this for 8 or so months..................

.............. I can't explain this lingering desire I've had for so long now nor do I know how to address.................

Coming back, even if I went active duty Id be making less than I do now with less time to spend with family/loved ones and it'll definitely be tough.
Sooo................

I get it, I had that lingering desire. However, I had a job that sucked (banking) in a time when banks were collapsing all around me. I didn't have a kid (do now though), and my house was rented out and nearly covering itself.

I could quit anything and go anywhere I wanted. Now, it's a major inconvenience.

It's not 8 months. Its 8 years. Even as a reservist you lose 25% of your weekends with family. You will probably come to realize it's just a bunch of hoop jumping and game playing.

The most visible difference between the military and a civilian job is we wear our resume on our uniform. Structurally how it operates business is much the same, but the formalities of ranks can be suffocating. People are people, bureaucracy is bureaucracy , and resource limitations are all the same as the outside world. Only now, rank and regulations bind them.

With the new retirement program I canít possibly see how anyone would be attracted to the Reserves. Itís now a 401K type system with a greatly reduced pension portion. Itís very much like any civilian employer plan. However, since itís a pay as you go, and the army matches as you go, itís basically ZERO.

BECAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Youíre retirement contributions are based on your measly monthly drill pay. Itís perfectly reasonable if you were working full time, but as a reservist, itís basically inconsequential.

The economic perks the military once could tout are now in line with any other civilian employer, but come with all the nonsense of the military.
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Sooo................

I get it, I had that lingering desire. However, I had a job that sucked (banking) in a time when banks were collapsing all around me. I didn't have a kid (do now though), and my house was rented out and nearly covering itself.

I could quit anything and go anywhere I wanted. Now, it's a major inconvenience.

It's not 8 months. Its 8 years. Even as a reservist you lose 25% of your weekends with family. You will probably come to realize it's just a bunch of hoop jumping and game playing.

The most visible difference between the military and a civilian job is we wear our resume on our uniform. Structurally how it operates business is much the same, but the formalities of ranks can be suffocating. People are people, bureaucracy is bureaucracy , and resource limitations are all the same as the outside world. Only now, rank and regulations bind them.

With the new retirement program I canít possibly see how anyone would be attracted to the Reserves. Itís now a 401K type system with a greatly reduced pension portion. Itís very much like any civilian employer plan. However, since itís a pay as you go, and the army matches as you go, itís basically ZERO.

BECAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Youíre retirement contributions are based on your measly monthly drill pay. Itís perfectly reasonable if you were working full time, but as a reservist, itís basically inconsequential.

The economic perks the military once could tout are now in line with any other civilian employer, but come with all the nonsense of the military.
Doesn't matter what you or anybody else says. He already made up his mind, and is doing it no matter what the consequences. Its obviously all about him, and his dream of playing soldier outweighs everything else. Right or wrong is just somebody else's opinion, and doesn't really matter. He was hoping for more dudes to validate his dream and help him justify his decision, but hasn't quite gone that way which is why the stubbornness is starting to creep through.

All anybody can say at this point is good luck, and wish you all the best.
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Doesn't matter what you or anybody else says. He already made up his mind, and is doing it no matter what the consequences. Its obviously all about him, and his dream of playing soldier outweighs everything else. Right or wrong is just somebody else's opinion, and doesn't really matter. He was hoping for more dudes to validate his dream and help him justify his decision, but hasn't quite gone that way which is why the stubbornness is starting to creep through.

All anybody can say at this point is good luck, and wish you all the best.
I appreciate what you believe my truth to be but that is inccorect, yes I have made up my mind but I was never looking for validation. If you go back and read my original post was asking for advice on what to expect as a married man with a child.

Thank you though.
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