San Diego -- APPLY to Get a Spot in Line

[Firemark]

I say bomb them with as many appointments as possible push that first interview date out to 2015. I just got mid June today 2/20. If we rack up the appointments then get some conservative media outlets to take and run a story like "CCW applications explode after Peruta decision, San Diegans want there carry permits". We can start getting some spin working for us for a change. Interview the Sheriff being a knucklehead with bonehead statements about good cause then interview an articulate San Diegan with multiple permits from other states making lucid pertinent points.

[AP2]

I have my appt on 6/11. Seems like they're getting more traffic for interviews.

[lorax3]

Originally Posted by Crom

I will reiterate, that I think everyone that wants a permit should make an appointment.

I agree, although I believe Peruta may be stayed pending further appeals I think we should make as many appointments as possible. My appointment has been made, and I have gotten ~10 other friends to make their appointments as well. June is filling up quick.

[wazdat]

June 25th for me.

[guns4life]

Into July now...booked.

[Firemark]

I just spoke with this staff writer yesterday.
San Diego gun case not just about guns

Let him know to start looking into county sheriffs including Gore and the tremendous backlog of people signing up for permits. May be a good story to report on, said he would look into it.

Get friends family and everyone to start making appointments, cant really see a down side to making the will of the people known.

[bassplayer]

Originally Posted by NoJoke

Nice couple! Gore and Filner!

Dan K.

[wazdat]

Wife called 3 hours after me and got an appointment August 4th.

I smell a rat...

[bassplayer]

Originally Posted by wazdat

Wife called 3 hours after me and got an appointment August 4th.

I smell a rat...

Apparently, they are only able to staff up to do 4 applications per day! Maybe a complaint to the Sheriff and the Board of Supervisors would help?

Dan K.

[guns4life]

"MILLER: San Diego won’t appeal 9th Circuit on concealed carry, but gun permits not immediate"




http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...concealed-car/

[arslin]

This rat bastard needs to be voted out.

[sd_shooter]

The link in the OP is now "404 not found"
http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/res.../125-san-diego

[Crom]

The good cause statements pre-Peruta are irrelevant. All you need now is to write for good cause is self-defense, or personal protection.

[botsdots]

Hmmm... 4 apps per day, 3,170,000 people. Even if 1/10% of people want a permit, it will take 3 years just to interview them. Sounds like another case to me.

[repomanNWP]

Originally Posted by sd_shooter

The link in the OP is now "404 not found"
http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/res.../125-san-diego

Looks like the correct link for the SD county good cause initiative is now: http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/res...iego%20County/

Nothing there yet. two weeks.

[Crom]

Originally Posted by repomanNWP

Looks like the correct link for the SD county good cause initiative is now: http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/res...iego%20County/

Nothing there yet. two weeks.

It does not matter anymore. Go apply now.

[zukieast]

So looking at SD Sheriffs Webpage they have posted the following which is different than last week:

"Members of the public wishing to obtain a CCW under the standards articulated by the Ninth Circuit should be aware that the decision has not yet become final.

Federal court rules prescribe a period of time which must elapse before the case is remanded to the District Court for further proceedings.

In order to accommodate, and expedite, the large numbers of anticipated applications, the Sheriff’s Department is revising the process for issuing CCW permits. Anyone wanting to apply for a CCW may submit an application either by mail at P.O. Box 939062, San Diego CA 92193-9062, or in person at 9621 Ridgehaven Court, San Diego, CA 92123.

Applications will be reviewed in the order they are received. All applications received that meet the current “good cause” standard will be contacted by a licensing staff member with instructions on how to complete the process.

Applications that seek a CCW permit under the self-defense standard set forth in Peruta v. County of San Diego will be processed in the order they were received should the decision of the Ninth Circuit become final. Once the decision becomes final, applicants will be contacted by the Sheriff’s Licensing Division with instructions on how to complete the process."

I know folks are calling and making apointments which are months away, do we just call and get the apointment and hope the cards fall our way?

I just called and the gal told me to just submit my application with no monies and I will be called in the order in which is was recieved. Pending the final 9th Circuit desion is final...

[Casual_Shooter]

Who is determining at what point an application is "submitted" as it pertains to the 90 day rule to get an approval or denial?

Or... what constitutes "submitted". Mailed, mailed with signature, mailed with no signature and money, mailed with money etc...

[Michael_Js]

You'll HAVE to get called (back) in, for your actual "Appointment". Then, they'll take copies of everything, do the LiveScan, collect money...IMHO, that's when the clock starts...

For now, they're just holding on to them with NO action! They are waiting for the ruling to come down to them...we'll know more on the 6th of next month...

Oh, they're calling and cancelling any appointments that have been made for personal protection...

[IAMSWUTIAMS]

I had an appointment for Sept. 9. They called yesterday and cancelled it. Saying to submit my application via mail or in person, and they would be holding them until a later date.

[guns4life]

Got the automated cancellation call yesterday...

[Miltiades]

I called last Monday for an appointment. I got through after 4 hours of intermittent trying and made an appointment for Aug. 6. Then I heard through the grapevine that appointments were going to be cancelled and you had to mail or deliver your application to the Licensing Dept. in San Diego. So on Wednesday morning I dropped it off in person, and the clerk time stamped it, telling me that we would be contacted in the order received. On Thursday I got a robocall cancelling my Aug. 6 appointment. So now I am waiting in the line with everybody else.

[zooduster]

Is this good all over California, or just San Diego county?

[shoebox56]

I live in the City of San Diego. Does the SDPD have any involvement in the CCW application, or is it strictly the County? thanks

[CessnaDriver]

Originally Posted by shoebox56

I live in the City of San Diego. Does the SDPD have any involvement in the CCW application, or is it strictly the County? thanks

County Sheriff.

[NoJoke]

Update?

[sd_shooter]

Originally Posted by NoJoke

Update?

[IAMSWUTIAMS]

So is this thread dead? No updates for San Diego?

[glock_this]

My appointment was suppose to be today at 8:00am.. so much for that huh.

[AIMSMALL]

Can anyone who has gone thru the process and actually obtained a permit please post regarding how the process went for you? Seems to me like they are taking apps but not giving anyone the permits... Thank you in advance, Jerry

[WatchMan]

I thought the deadline for San Diego County to appeal Peruta was sometime in June???

What is going on with this? I can't seem to find anything.

[glock_this]

Originally Posted by AIMSMALL

Can anyone who has gone thru the process and actually obtained a permit please post regarding how the process went for you? Seems to me like they are taking apps but not giving anyone the permits... Thank you in advance, Jerry

This has been pretty well explained and covered several times here.

No one is getting them at this time who used "self defense" as their GC.

A few who got in real, real early before the SD Sherif decided on a protocol to handle these and before they just got deluged by self defence CCW apps got denied in the end before they tabled all "self defense" apps until Peruta is decided.

So those in the "self defense" pile are just in limbo for now until the legalities and issues are all sorted out. The legalities and issues that are going on now I cannot speak to and there are threads specific to those & they read as complicated and hard to follow given all of the hard to explain legal steps and processes, but this gives you the basic answer to your question.

[Databyter]

From the Sheriffs Licensing Page http://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

The issue of whether the State, the Brady Center, and/or CPCA and CPOA can intervene in the case has been settled – they cannot. However, the issue of whether or not the full Ninth Circuit will review the case en banc remains unanswered. The full court can accept a case for en banc review even if none of the parties make such a request – only time will answer that question.

Therefore nothing has changed for us, we will continue to process applications as we have been doing.

"Only time will answer that question"?

So we have to wait,.. in the off chance that the court will revisit this,.. and decide against it, because this Sheriff says so?

They deny us this, because they disagree with the court. This is a good example of soft tyranny. They won't outright say that they will not obey the law, but they hint that the law may change in the future,.. so why obey it now?

These people believe in what they are doing. They think they are right, and they are sincere. And since they have no clue about how this Country is supposed to work, and what RIGHTS really are, they, in their arrogance, deny us the rights that they enjoy.

Oh, but they are special, they face risk, are trained and educated, and most of all they are THEM, not us.

The problem is, they ARE us, and are supposed to represent us, not RULE us. But I guess they have forgotten, and the court doesn't seem to be effectively waking them up. So it's up to us. We need to get the media more on our side. Every blurp I see on the news shows a Sheriff soundbyte, but not our viewpoint. It makes it seem as if the Sheriff is being reasonable and simply attempting to keep guns from criminals, and we all know that argument is false to the point of dishonesty.

There is an assumption of innocence in this Country, and those good citizens are supposed to enjoy full rights. When we are assumed to possibly be not innocent, and only given the rights granted by a local politician at his or her whim, you have a system that is not conducive to our intended freedoms.

The rule should be the RULE of LAW, not the RULE of what the court might do in 6 months. The current law is that self defense is good cause under our Constitution. Period.

Databyter

[NoJoke]

Originally Posted by Databyter

From the Sheriffs Licensing Page http://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html


... We need to get the media more on our side....

Databyter

I agree with every word - but caution your possibly misguided hope of this happening. My wife has a close friend who was an editor for the San Diego North County Times (when it existed) and is currently with the UT. She is kind in word. She seems to be quite empathetic on nearly any topic. However, she is steadfast in her anti-gun position - in a "for the children's safety" sort of way. I have good information on the makeup of the newsroom and the last holdout conservatives have left - and he was not necessarily a "pro-gun" conservative either. There isn't any representation for "us" left there. From what I can tell the anti-gun mentality is deep and entrenched with the current media with no foreseeable changes occurring. Maybe we just need a new paper/news source - maybe the Tea Party Paper?????

[BLACK LION]

Originally Posted by AIMSMALL

Can anyone who has gone thru the process and actually obtained a permit please post regarding how the process went for you? Seems to me like they are taking apps but not giving anyone the permits... Thank you in advance, Jerry

I applied before all of this came down the pipe and I was denied. I had every valid reason any law abiding citizen would have and I had cited case where CCW had saved lives, police response times to violent crimes, crime statistice in my surrounding area...you name it but all they did was entertain me and made me feel comfortable about everything and even commended me on all my documentation and research but in the end, unless you can prove you transport LARGE sums of money, jewels or guns then they will tell you that the only way they will reconsider is if you survive an attack on your life, file a police report and can prove that your life is still in danger.... so basically, they give the gun to the criminal and give you a running head start. You can always make a political donation for 4000.00 and find a member of the sheriffs department to make friends with and you should be able to get one before the new year.

[ffosty]

I recently completed a 2 week event and at the end received a 50 state CCR. didn't cost 4K donation it took a 2 week volunteer and $400.00 donation to the law enforcement reserve officer association.

[sd_shooter]

Originally Posted by ffosty

I recently completed a 2 week event and at the end received a 50 state CCR. didn't cost 4K donation it took a 2 week volunteer and $400.00 donation to the law enforcement reserve officer association.

Please expand on this.

[ParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by ffosty

I recently completed a 2 week event and at the end received a 50 state CCR. didn't cost 4K donation it took a 2 week volunteer and $400.00 donation to the law enforcement reserve officer association.

Sounds like he is saying that he became a reserve sheriff's deputy.

[Jimi Jah]

As of January 1st, illegal aliens can get a driver's license. A privledge is given to foreign nationals illegally present yet a basic right is withheld from citizens.

This is one messed up place.

[GuillermoAntonio]

Im sorry I'm trying to follow this thread but its now very confusing.
Is it time to apply or not?
Are we lookiing good or not?