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Old 03-27-2012, 6:57 AM
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yeah they bungled mass effect...somehow life goes on...
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I'm fighting the reaper on rannoch right now, died about 40 times at the last slow mo part. very very aggravating
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I'm fighting the reaper on rannoch right now, died about 40 times at the last slow mo part. very very aggravating
You have to hit the VERY middle. Test it in the previous rounds; if you're doing it right, you should be able to hit the Reaper with him only getting off one shot.

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As soon as the targeting thing shows up point your doohickey at it and hold the button down. If you don't you won't get a shot off in time when it goes slow mo...

Anyone get jiggy with Tali? If you did, did you notice that the photo she gives you of 'herself' is one Bioware got off Gettyimages (I recognized it because it was on their frontpage for awhile, I go there for imagery for websites) and photochopped the lady's fingers off? So apparently the Quarians are humans with funky legs and three fingers...
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Ok...well I just finished it.
I'm pissed. Really, really pissed.
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Ok...well I just finished it.
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Finished the Rannoch mission, or the end of the game?
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I wasnt that thrilled about the demo. ME2 was decent But won't buy any of the future ones. Did love Skyrim though, and the COD series. Never got into Halo since the 1st either.
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The ending works a lot better if you think about everything happening after you black out as being inside Shepard's head, it also explains






















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BUT




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the developers have said in several interviews that they're only going to be adding on to the ending cinematic. So while they may spin it to being a Shepherd is still alive and kicking scenario they obviously didn't intend it to be that way.
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Anyone who doesn't want spoilers for ME3s ending, skip this post


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the developers have said in several interviews that they're only going to be adding on to the ending cinematic. So while they may spin it to being a Shepherd is still alive and kicking scenario they obviously didn't intend it to be that way.
When I mention that ending I am referring to this tag



after the big explosion.

I think it's pretty clear that that guy is alive, seriously ****ed up but alive.

As for what they will do with DLC's later, I don't know, I just think that the final sequence being Shepard fighting against his own indoctrination explains most if not all the logical inconsistency's in that sequence(Normandy at FTL, with the people who were just in your squad, and somehow manages to find a paradise world just like the one Shepard and Liara talked about earlier in the game despite these worlds being really really rare in the game)
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Apparently, if your effective military strength is high enough, then the squaddies you take with you on the final push to the transport beam will survive the assault. That's how they explain their presence in the ending cinematic when the Normandy crashes on the hitherto unknown garden world.

My question: if you choose the destruction option, do you kill off EDI and the Geth as well as the Reapers? That kind of bites since that's the only option for Shepard to survive the endgame.
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I think it's pretty clear that that guy is alive, seriously ****ed up but alive.
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edit: bioware is going to have a panel at penny arcade expo (april 6th->) as well as some floor testers I think and the rumor is that they will be talking specifically about Shepherd's fate so please stop pm'ing me lol

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Hoop, PM'ed. I have my theories, but am open to hear what an industry insider has to say.
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Hoop, PM'ed. I have my theories, but am open to hear what an industry insider has to say.
Same here. At first I was incredibly upset by the ending. After more analysis there is a lot of subtle hints here and there that point to something larger of which I have my own theories.
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**spoliers....well I think****


Well, here is my take. I restarted playing ME 1 from the beginning and wanted to catch anything that Bioware sneakily placed into the games but people may not have picked up on.

When you first get to the Citidel in ME 1 you can run around the old version of the embassy area. There is a statue of a Mass Effect relay, if you go and check it out one of the squad members asks if you hear a odd humming noise. Same line Vega uses when you are in the new normandy in the shuttle bay. So,


In short, I think BioWare Indoctrinated the players
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Okay, I just joined the ranks of those who reached the end only to feel utterly let down. Normally when I hear ahead of time something is bad but I wanna see it anyway, like John Carter, I go in expecting bad and leave pleasantly surprised. But finishing ME3 knowing so many were let down by the ending, I still....was let down by the ending. What a suckfest! Great start, great improvement on gameplay, but like the previous posters, I have zero desire to replay now after that ending.
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Yes the "indoctrination theory" about the ending...we have dismissed those claims.
lol

But seriously, I wanted Shepard with Tali on Rannoch, happily ever after. Thats all. Was that too much to ask?

To sum up why Im mostly pissed:


And:

Or from a Turian perspective...


EDIT: And WTF is with linking the Multiplayer and single player campaigns? I have to play multiplayer to get galactic readiness over 50%?
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Ok...well I just finished it.
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I'm with you on this one. What really got my goat were the inconsistencies at the end. I wasn't looking for a happily ever after ending, but more explanation would have helped. I hope they don't try so spin it all as indoctrination...
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I played thru twice, yes I do like the game. Did anyone else pick up on the while be careful with how far you advance technology wise?
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The endings made me so mad so I don't know if I want to play again. Plus my wife wont let me play through mass effect 1 "this game is all about you walking through the mall (Citadel station)". And she refuses to let me play through ME2 afterwards because she doesn't understand how I could die and be alive again.

This means unfortunately I am stuck with my ME3 import. Miranda died in the swarm, Jack in the stand the line and a few others gone. I also don't have any romances from the previous games so every night I sleep I get the freaky dreams.
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The endings made me so mad so I don't know if I want to play again. Plus my wife wont let me play through mass effect 1 "this game is all about you walking through the mall (Citadel station)". And she refuses to let me play through ME2 afterwards because she doesn't understand how I could die and be alive again.

This means unfortunately I am stuck with my ME3 import. Miranda died in the swarm, Jack in the stand the line and a few others gone. I also don't have any romances from the previous games so every night I sleep I get the freaky dreams.
why do you let your wife decide what games you can play??? if you died in ME2 you did not put enough effort into your character every single import i have has full loyalty and all squad surviving the suicide mission. if you did not like the game play in ME3 its probably because you are missing out on a ton of stuff by not having all your squad survive the suicide mission. my advice is to clear o up about 50 hours or so and create a new ME1 character. you dont have to stick to paragon or renegade style thanks to a handy glitch that you can use to fill out both bars. just dont kill NPC though, they show up in the other 2 games and help out in the final battle with the reapers.

when you import your new game into ME2 pick a paragon or renegade style and stick to it. you will need a full bar to defuse some conflicts that arise in your squad. do all loyalty missions, mine out planets to fully upgrade the Normandy and buy the upgrades for your squad members finally be smart about your choices during the suicide mission i find if i left the techs alone to hold off the collectors one of them always died. send a loyal mordin solus to escort the ship survivors back to the shuttle, keep a loyal tali and thane with you in the battle with the human reaper.

as for the romances in the game male shepards go liara-tali-liara.
female shepards go liara-samara (she dont give anything up and is old as he1! but its fun to dream right)-then back to liara.
and dont forget about the hooker in ME1 for a little extra action if you play your cards right

by the time you get ready to import into ME3 they should have DLC out that will make the ending a bit better. enjoy
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FWIW

"Daniel Gonzalez, director of marketing and public relations for EA Latin America, says that they will release no DLC with a different ending. There will be a DLC to better explain the details of the ending, but the ending will remain the same.

Regarding the future of the franchise, he declared that ME3 was the end of Shepard but not the end of the game, and promised that news about more DLC would be forthcoming in two weeks' time."

Which was what I was told...
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Apparently when they told us there was going to be thousands of story variations leading to unique endings they were referring to the thousands of ways you can destroy an Xbox controller in frustration and anger....

Thanks Bioware, thanks, back to Skyrim.


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End of Shepard but not the end of the game eh?
Well no Shepard means I'm really not interested.
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Bioware has now officially announced that there will be a free DLC with additional cutscenes and character epilogues sometime this spring/summer.
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Ending didn't bug me as much as people blew it out of proportion. I saw the whole game of ME3 as the ending to the trilogy and I enjoyed the game. Even the multiplayer is really fun. Honestly, my biggest disappointment is how they just throw in a bunch of generic guys if you don't have previous saves. I lost all my saved files for ME1 and ME2 when I migrated all my files to my new console. Really kills a lot of moments where I'd have more background with the characters due to my decisions in previous games. Watching my girlfriend play through the same areas I did, except with past characters really made my experience seem not as gratifying.

Its funny seeing people talk crap about ME3, yet herald Skyrim. Bethesda games in general epitomizes being overhyped and people misusing the word "epic" on them. Its a fine enough environment to just waste time in, but you can't tell me the game itself and the story had any real substance. The ending for example, "you.. the great dragon kin.. killed the world eating dragon.. congrats.. now go back to doing whatever you were doing before you saved the world...."

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I've been playing Skyrim for a few months now and was unaware that it had a main storyline.
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I can see how that could happen..

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This guy makes some good comparisons for folks who may not quite get what all the hubbub is about. goo.gl/Fys6m
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That guy is exactly right, BioWare screwed the pooch big time.
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So essentially.. these gamers totally disregard hours upon hours of awesome gameplay and story due to 5 minutes at the end? I can kind of see where Bioware was going and I admit the execution is bad. My guess is they were trying to do some spin off of something similar to Battlestar Galactica (they seem like genuine fans, even have Saul doing Bailey's voice).

At least it did get Bioware's attention and as a result, I'll get something new for it.
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So essentially.. these gamers totally disregard hours upon hours of awesome gameplay and story due to 5 minutes at the end? I can kind of see where Bioware was going and I admit the execution is bad. My guess is they were trying to do some spin off of something similar to Battlestar Galactica (they seem like genuine fans, even have Saul doing Bailey's voice).

At least it did get Bioware's attention and as a result, I'll get something new for it.
Not necessarily. The forums I have read, and myself included, overwhelmingly point out how good the game and entire series are. Most people don't need a "happily ever after" ending. I think that everyone who has played the entire series was pretty sure that Shepard would sacrifice himself, and were OK with that as long as there was some decent closure.

On top of all that, Bioware had always said that all your choices matter and will have an impact on the outcome. Instead, we find out that none of your choices mattered at all and that everyone gets screwed in the end. I suppose that the current ending is one of the most realistic, cold endings that one could expect. There are a few other reasons that people are worked up about the ending. Read the article I posted earlier. It's a long read but it does a good job of explaining what people are worked up about.
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So essentially.. these gamers totally disregard hours upon hours of awesome gameplay and story due to 5 minutes at the end? I can kind of see where Bioware was going and I admit the execution is bad. My guess is they were trying to do some spin off of something similar to Battlestar Galactica (they seem like genuine fans, even have Saul doing Bailey's voice).

At least it did get Bioware's attention and as a result, I'll get something new for it.
Not really, all 3 games are still fun(really liking multiplayer right now), it's just that the ending came out of left field, and in a series that put particular emphasis on the choices you make playing the game, no choice made up to that point(aside from how many side quests and how much exploration you did) made the slightest difference in the ending.

And I think your right about the spinoff, the ME series to way to profitable for them to drop it now(see Halo 4 as an example of a new game after the series is "done").
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So essentially.. these gamers totally disregard hours upon hours of awesome gameplay and story due to 5 minutes at the end? I can kind of see where Bioware was going and I admit the execution is bad. My guess is they were trying to do some spin off of something similar to Battlestar Galactica (they seem like genuine fans, even have Saul doing Bailey's voice).

At least it did get Bioware's attention and as a result, I'll get something new for it.
Yes, they forgot the hours upon hours of entertainment to vent their spleens about the last couple minutes. Same folks that are also handwringing and whining about the LGBT content in ME and SWTOR.

There is a reason developers shouldn't listen to the community about certain things, they're insane.
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Well, I was kind of hoping the endings you got were more dependent on earlier games plus some sort of epilogue. So at least they're getting the epilogue part right (unless they fugger that up too in which case the nerd rage will be hilarious).
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Nerd rage IS hilarious until one of those mouthbreathers calls you on the phone to whine.

The sad thing about the Bioware response, they'll be rewarded with more complaints.
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So essentially.. these gamers totally disregard hours upon hours of awesome gameplay and story due to 5 minutes at the end? I can kind of see where Bioware was going and I admit the execution is bad. My guess is they were trying to do some spin off of something similar to Battlestar Galactica (they seem like genuine fans, even have Saul doing Bailey's voice).

At least it did get Bioware's attention and as a result, I'll get something new for it.
The problem isn't that the ending was "bad" per se, it's that your actions have virtually no consequense on the outcome. X, Y, and Z happens regardless of which final option you choose, and ALL of them are completely independant of ALL of your actions of the previous three games up till then (other than one or two little aspects, which have no barring affect on the outcome, and only relate to your galactic strength, not moral choices).

It's frustrating not just in its simplicity, but its lack of ability to handle concluding a story some of us have put hundreds of hours into across three games. It feels like they were rushed to meet deadlines. There isn't "16 endings," there's one with +/-5% change between each other. Rather than expand so many things that could have been, they just toss a quick catch-all ending and hope for the best. With such a vast, rich, and lush universe filled with so many different life forms, relationships, and interactions, it seemed to be a lazy, time-constraint, cop-out to take the route they did.

Another theory a friend of mine mentioned is the possible reasoning for a wipe like that could set the groundwork for a possible Mass Effect MMO... Who knows on that one...
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Another theory a friend of mine mentioned is the possible reasoning for a wipe like that could set the groundwork for a possible Mass Effect MMO... Who knows on that one...
Honestly, given the intricacy that the ME universe has generated in just 5 years, I think I'd enjoy a ME based MMORPG. That idea appeals a lot more to me than SW:TOR.
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