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According to the Leginfo site, the law as amended would be:
(1) A semiautomatic, rimfire or centerfire rifle that has does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept 10 rounds or fewer. . . . . (2) “Fixed magazine” means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action. |
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edit: on second thought, how many "magazines" of any type require you to disassemble the action in order to remove them? My Winchester model 70 bolt action can have the floorplate and spring removed without disassembling the action...I know this wouldnt make either of those guns "assault weapons" but it definitely speaks to the ness of the definition Last edited by Hoooper; 02-22-2013 at 1:55 PM.. |
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Curious what the next iteration of the bill will say, now that we've all chatted it up so much.
This bill, like all the others, needs to be stopped. I realize that when most of us can't even get our Reps to read our e-mails let alone listen to reason, it seems too formidable, but this is where we should be putting our time and effort... not helping them re-write. |
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This is about confiscation. There are probably a million+ people who own AR's in this state. It is the number 1 selling rifle in America. It doesn't get much more common use than that. Yee, Lee, Steinburg, say goodbye to your careers.
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I would be willing to bet Yee gets re-elected. He is extremely popular. Short of getting caught with a hooker (which he already almost did AND still got elected) he will win. His career is just beginning. We need to gear up and be ready for him and be ready to fight whatever non-sense he has to offer. I hope to be wrong.
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Right now they will take all the comments they have read on CalGuns and incorporate them into a more impressive bill. Thanks for the help CalGuns.
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Unfortunately, THIS...
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Yea I know, but it's illegal to make people STFU.
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Enh, there is not much to be Opsec about here. The other side's problem is this.
They can ban only bullet button rifles and we'll all go featureless and use normal magazines. Plus, the artificial distinctions between the now banned 10 round bullet button rifle and the unbanned MMG gripped AR with a 30 round magazine makes no sense. As such, they've got to go to the next logical place and ban all semiauto rifles. Sounds like DC banning all handguns. Please put us in that briar patch. -Gene
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It seems to me that it will be better if the SCOTUS rules strict scrutiny in the next case and most of these laws can be suspended in court as they are enacted.
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Yes. As some point they will have to identify the level of scrutiny applicable to 2A rights. Hopefully soon.
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This bill is so broad there will be many felons created because some people will not know how many of their guns are "assault rifles". Some in rural areas will not realize their 1960s hunting rifle or old Ruger 10/22 requires registration.
It's also so broad that LEOs will likely make even more arrests for lawful weapons than they already do because the law is so poorly written. |
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The trouble is time. Before the SCOTUS even decides to hear their next 2A case, the antis in CA and elsewhere will have long since passed their illegal regulations. By the time the verdict for or against comes out, you guys will already be violators.
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As written the law provides for registration. Therefore without an injunction (and hopefully we get one) we would have to register and fight in the courts. HOPEFULLY if this does get thrown out we are then allowed to unregister.
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Unregister...LOL. Yeah right.
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They are BEYOND contempt. It is time for massive and conscious
disobediance of these anti-American Constitution, unworthy California politicians and legislators. |
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Again, while we fight the courts, registering only encourages this
kind of serious criminal behaviour on the part of thes "legislator" criminals. And they ARE indeed criminals. |
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From the way I read the bill this is a blanket ban and is the rifle equivalent of Heller. They say its an "assault weapons" ban but there's no logic, how can a Ruger 10/22 be Assaultier than an SKS (which will remain legal). As I recall they've got a hard on for SKS rifles
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I need people to think about this statement and not just have a knee jerk reaction.
We need the absolute most new registrations we can possibly get in any way we can get them during a registration window. Pause and think about why. -Gene
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1. Almost guaranteed Preliminary Injunctions against these new bills. 2. Increased chance of being granted Cert for some of our ongoing court cases. 3. The more overreaching (and draconian) the bill (law) is, the more likely it is to be (eventually) struck down. 4. The more (registered) guns that are out there and counted in statistics and censuses, the more likely that "In Common Use" can be used as the catalyst to striking down aforementioned laws in court. In the ballpark? I'm only 21 and bright green when it comes to legalese, but that's what I took out of it. Lose the battle, but (ultimately) win the war... Clever.
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Every visceral reaction says registration is always bad. Not sure I can get over that feeling.
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Dont you mean the guns you turned in at a gun buyback?
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Nope. Plan A. Let the corrupt politicians pass all the unconstitutional laws they want, and hope the courts rule in our favor.
Welcome to California.
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Yes as much as people may not want to register. If they opened up registrations and there was a very large number of registrations they lose. Common use is a great thing. If they try to ban without opening registrations then they have an all new briar patch. Talk about a rock and a hard place!
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All I can add to this is the thought that when in session, the doors to the capitol nned to be closed and chained from the outside....... I cant 'express my 1st A anymore than that." Think of some movies, books and elsewhere for 'inspiration".
As for Homang's suggestion, i think i get it BUT there is a definite risk involved.... may have to bullet proof the windows,walls and solid steel core the doors on the house.......
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Sounds like the usual long road through the courts with slow responses, what happened to the full frontal stop it before it starts. I'm starting to get some real mixed signals with tactics on how this legislation will be fought NOT GOOD
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They can't weasel their way outta this one at the rate they're going.
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Remember how great it was when we celebrated the OC ban because it was going to open up concealed carry across CA?
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